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Being entrenched in poverty I cann't afford RUK but I quite enjoyed the articles he'd write in the RP.
His theories are quite interesting and thought provoking ,in a way similer to nick Mordin, which is surely the sign of a good journalist. Lets face it if you had to talk about a mid week card at Pontefract for 4 hours it ain't going to be easy to not talk waffle. |
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If someone gave me a flight ticket to the Breeders cup I'd sit next to him for half of the flight.
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i would the 2nd half ,after someone through him out at 30,000 ft in the 1st half
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We're all ignorant because we see right through the biggest fraud that ever landed on racing
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I think you should speak for yourself sivergreaser as I, for one, do not agree with you at all ....
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He calls himself the Prof on twitter that's all you need to know about him not short of confidence but useless all that analysis of pedigree and sectional times and for what? no winners any more than the majority of us.
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The man never stops trying to be something he isn't, fraud?
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Calls himself Professor Hindsight,do not pick and choose facts to make your point seem stronger as this is unfair.
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thought JW called it a day not long ago?
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holly willoughbys big sister
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The guy might actually be likeable if he wasn't so entrenched with been superior?
Its called pseudo intellectualism.... |
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I quite like Willo. I can get all the basic information I need because it is readily available. It's those strange little nuances that can be gained from listening to others. Things I hadn't thought of because I, for one, don't know everything.
Similarly I don't expect a good pro punter on the tele because he will be too busy making money. And I don't think I could stand some smart a r s e picking winners all of the time. No, I quite like some of what he says, the rest I can leave along thank you. On the other hand the Admiral, or Captain or whatever you call him, I cannot stand listening to him and his tone of voice or his false amusement. No sir, not for me. |
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Sorry for the late reply Howard. I agree Nick Luck knows his stuff, but the problem is he strains every single sinew to let you know it. And name drops. And overhypes everything. And hero-worships virtually every big name in the game (virtually everyone is 'wonderful this, wonderful that...'). And never lets the action speak for itself - sometimes the action is that good it does not need his gas. And yes, they may employ him in the USA (i've never trusted the Americans on matters of taste btw) but I think they have over the yrs also employed McCririck, and he is an even bigger disaster on TV (if not for the full night, certainly to dip into their coverage).All of the above said, when Nick Luck anchors it from the studio, i quite like him. When he anchors from te track, he just grates horribly.
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If you want hero worshipping is there anyone better than Matt "I simply get so sexually aroused at the sheer mention of a jockey and trainer" Chapman?
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He is missed on the american racing.
The battleships exacta grid , crusty and the good old boys are desperate for a run. |
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Never a dull moment when Willo is on, and it's often a laugh-a-minute. "The King of the One Liners", as Richard Hoiles once described him. Great to have him back on doing the punditry with his 'crazy' and alternative take on events. And for those of us who follow the AW as much as the jumps, good news that he'll be "Mr Wednesday Night" and covering Kempton through the winter.
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Stress the word "DULL" the so called comedy is almost staged, give me natural comedy anytime not forced contrived look at me I'm so witty fake humour?
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You sound very angry, greasy.
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silver is there anything that you will talk to me about that you are not angry about,whats your fav holiday destination.and dont say bloody foreigners
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Always get confused between him and luck and cunningham.
Theyre all pompous annoying tw@ts who couldnt tip shyt from a bucket |
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By the way, has there ever been a TV pundit who tipped winner after winner, and deivered a flawless analysis after each race?
If so, could you please tell me his / her name? |
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Not to my knowledge
There all freeloaders riding the gravy train Used to quite like dear old john rickman though.He was a real gent |
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Not to my knowledge
There all freeloaders riding the gravy train Used to quite like dear old john rickman though.He was a real gent |
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wtf
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Not angry just can't take to fake people, give me honesty everyday, as for my fav holiday destination, I'm a working class guy with kids and I'd fly back and forth to Salou everyday of the week if I could, perfect working class holiday has everthing children could want and big kids like me.
Never forget or run from your roots |
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You're describing James as "fake" and "dishonest"?
No, you're not angry, just clueless and a poor judge of character. |
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I would love see all his critics on here all have a go at the job he does live on TV.
Some people may not like his manner at times, but to do that job you need an awful lot of self-belief or you would just freeze trying to come up with anything 'half relevant'. The criticism is unfair in my opinion. |
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Everyone to his own, you think he's the bees knees I don't and I think I left enough clues as to why I don't.
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Me thinks he doth sport the fancy feathers of the literati
and is what I call a smarty Alec ! always using eleven words when seven or less will do !!! Try one word less a day willo …at least it’s a start .. I imagine like may of his media ilk he washes but once a week rises a ten thirty and strolls along to the Course , humming some little ditty on his way, no doubt some liberal feminist squawk from the eighties, which genre he seems to have a liking for . Then it is straight into what you call rightly call his .' analysis paralysis ' of said races , blabbing on about some desperate Nag or other running off a rating of forty five ....giving us all to believe that the beast has lashings of thus far untapped potential and a lineage going back to Pegasus ....we smash into it even though we should know better ... Race over; he makes light of our misfortune and turns to his fellow pundit ...Nick never brought me any Luck Luck !!!! and invites him to comment on the fact that the female winner is owned ,trained ridden and is even now being washed down by a female ‘sisers are doing it for themselves ‘. he quips , then qualifies this rash statement ,'not to themselves' for some unknown reason Luck thinks this is very funny and allows thirty seconds of air time to go unfilled while he recovers his composure In what way is that of any interest to the loosing punter still perusing the screen to see where myth of Pegasus finished up !!!!!! ...he's a definite Wrongun ...get rid of him is my advice |
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James need not worry about his few detractors, come Wednesday evening there'll be another mountain of e-mails from viewers who respect him, his opinions, and want to hear his views.
Greasy, you can always press the mute button, but by the sound of things, you hang on his every word. |
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Its not just RUK george its everything, his articles on the Racing Post sounded more like a college professors thesis, as if to let everyone know how clever he is, hello! we're talking about horse racing here its not science ffs.
But James wants us to think that there is a science to a horse running from a to b, what usually happens the fastest horse wins, hmmm... not much science can do about that eh? |
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hes not deliberatly annoying,its is defence shield,
he worked is why owt a yuksure,faffer stopped him going down pit.so he worked extra hard,now down here and on the post,he meets alot of people who have been given their place(nick luck)and didnt have to struggle,so he feels a bit beneth them /not worthy,but hes clever and as worked hard ,unlike the res of the people he meets,so to give himself some confidence,he uses big words/more words - why ,because he can,because they cant.its what he does to fit in with the in crowd.because hes not instantly respected ,he tries to urn it with his education. |
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You summed it up for me comingupthehill, why can't he just be himself instead of trying to be way above his stature to prove what?
Sounds like a guy in need of something, attention maybe? |
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his 'inside of the inside, inside of the outside, inside if the outside of the inside...' speech had to be heard to be believed!
i dont mind james as a person, but over complicating things is an understatment!! usually resulting in his explaining why (HE THINKS) the winner won resulting in some propostereous formula regarding why horses bred by that particular sire preform better when its under 14 degress C!! best just to mute as many said, worthless in the long run! |
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like all the presenters on RUK and ATR, he annoys the hell out of us all by telling us after the race why the winner was the only horse you could have backed, and just like the rest of them, chances are he never even mentioned the winning horse in his race preview.
let's face it, if he and/or any of his presenting mates could pick lots of winners then they wouldn't need to "lower" themselves to speak to the likes of us on TV. I did email willo once on RUK about a certain racing situation and he just dismissed my email instantly as being nonsense until his co-presenter pointed out that two well known and respected trainers also held the same view. he instantly switched to talking about the merits of my idea, although I suspect he was talking about the merits of the idees of the two trainers and in his head he still thought that my views didn't count as I was just a nobody. it's not just willo who treats viewers with contempt though. it's the old "when did you ever ride a horse" syndrome. if you're not a trainer or a jockey then you know nothing about racing and you don't belong in our private club. (some of the big wealthy owners and senior members of the BHA are accepted into this exclusive club) |
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I would like to give James Willoughby some advice after Poetic lords win at goodwood yesterday he said the reason it won was because R Hughes set the right pace in the right place in the race and quickened at the right time in other words he kept it simple,exactly James so why not apply that theory to yourself keep it simple.
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he as missed his calling as he would be a great ventriloquist. His mouth seems like it does not move when he speaks. check it out when he is on screen.
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Yes, he would probably make a great ventriloquist - gottle o'geer anyone?
I suspect Watchit isn't far wrong and it wouldn't surprise me if the emails are stage managed as well. There was one about the Arc winner just so Luck could pipe up about the Captain and GC tipping it - RUK never miss a trick in the back slapping department. |
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wee eck 09 Oct 11 09:32
dod I have subscribed to RUK since its inception but after years of listening to what I consider balderdash from its experts and pundits until Willo appeared I had the mute on 90% of the time. ..is why I have cancelled by subscription. Its all pretenious bullshlt - saying anything to fill airtime - with a manner thats suggests an intellectually superior mind.Its 'emporers new clothes' stuff, and an insult to anyone who has the slightest idea about horses and horseracing. |
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the only people who stick up for willoughby on here have worked with him at timeform or the racing post imo the people who are against him are the viewer and the punter just a hunch
Can't speak for the others but you've got me wrong, watchit. I've never been scared of people who use big words and I don't follow other folk's tips so maybe that's where you and I differ. What I do detest is people reading out the spotlight verdicts from the RP and that, I hope we can agree, is something you could never accuse James of. |