BLACK CAVIAR will never come to Europe now.........

she's not that special. hth.

Why do we need to keep sending our horses to some second rate racing scene with minimal prize money, if you want to prove yourself send them to us, maybe if a few of your jocks spent some time sownunder they might learn to ride better.

hahaha, best ever?...get real,been many better in Australia. but he is better than the UK horses racing[;)]

and regards to the rugby team, we love the irish, no harm getting beaten by a team we aussies admire

No Bs were you sown under?[;)]

No_BS ...so right in regards to jockeys, Frankie dettori gets his ass kicked each melbourne cup carnival, whats his win loss ratio??

something like 50 rides for 2 winners, took him 2 years to ride his first in oz

Name a few decent jocks from down under that would be recognised outside Queensland?

Billy Elliot was an Aussie jock whos sole claim to fame was having a film named after him through the lead character.A dancing queen,a bit like our own _Ascotboy_ aka Fraudy.[;)][;)]

Btw Fraudboy is well known in Queensland.[;)][;)]

kinane slaughtered every ride in the melbourne cup even the one time he won, he slaughtered the horse, lucky it wasnt a strong year.

bill hutchinson is one

scobie breasley was better

Abroad he rode 2,161 winners and won four English jockey titles (1957 and 1961-63).
He was a dominant force in the saddle for a decade, notching over a century of winners every season from 1955 to 1964.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing/article-424190/Tributes-paid-Scobie-...

One of your clowns starts a thread putting down an unbeaten horse and you don't expect us to bite.

We don't have to prove anything to anyone, sure SYT is a champion race horse and the only reason he is overseas is because they had to buy him to get him there.

Just stick to what you all seam to know best these days, laying, because i am sure you couldn't pick a winner out of your ass.

SO YOU THINK will be crowned world champion middle distance horse of the world at the end of your racing season. a champion of that year,get over it. you couldnt help yourself attacking after your own media pumped up the hype about SYT to get the turnsiles clicking and newspapers sold
 
Black Caviar is  different , she's a freak just like how you english like to describe Frankel.
but please, when you remind people that your racing peers voted Frankel as the highest rated horse in the world.

remember these same racing peers also voted star witness, sacred kingdom, rocket man, Absolute Champion world champion sprinters these last 10 years.

should i remind you they are all Australian Bred and not one of them would get her off the bit.they are all known as champions in Australia and you have haylist and the 2 possibly the best sprinters before the great mare came along in vain, manikato, but Black Caviar is a freak of nature, simple.

not bad for a mare, a mare whose own australian handicapper rated her lower than his overseas peers feeling he would look to be bias, hence then at the time given only equal top rating with Frankel. not bad for a mare rating the same as a colt, un heard of, but hey, she's black caviar.



ya funny fellas you englishmen

On the bright side, if BC does go to Europe she won't be trained by a bunch of Irish mugs

Black Caviar won't come to England, she's too used to racing on backwards tracks in a backward country. She'd never want to go down under again if she came here.

denathorn.....shows your mentality...that of a child, your a very angry ant...bad day at kindy??[:(]

who's angry? I've seen the tracks you have, maybe we should convert a few farms to make tracks similar to yours. Backwards.

When does she run next?

mossman... This Sat. in the Schillaci Stakes at Caulfield.

Nice one thanks. Any idea around what time over here?

BC is the best sprinter ive seen since dayjur but its clear she is probably a lot better.

she the only horse i see giving frankel trouble over sprint trips, i think he'd beat her over 7 and a mile!

No, Mossman. Have to check later in the week as details not up anywhere yet.

ratshitcaughtboy laughed at a fellow forum user when he tipped Danedream in the Arc, are you really going to take this clown seriously?

a few lines quoted from the racing post site[:)]

Dear England,

Instead of sending your draught horse stayers Down Under each spring to get their backsides spanked, how about you pop some of your "sprinters" on the next Qantas 380 and shoot them over so I can give them a right royal hiding?
You might as well, because all Aussies know that you Poms like being on the end of a good beating, it gives you something to complain about.
The Ashes are one thing, racing is another, and on the racetrack the Australians rule supreme  - realise it, respect it, embrace it.
I'm Black Caviar. Nice to meet you.
For those of you unfamiliar with what Ido let me fill you in. I win races. I run fast, then I run faster. I just win, that's all there is to it. 13 wins from 13 starts, six Group 1s.

I'm like a Mohammed Ali cross Usain Bolt cross Phar Lap cross Naomi Campbell cross Oprah - I'm the greatest, fastest, and most dominant sprinter the world has ever seen. I'm not in the business of giving away cars but if you put enough money on me you'll soon have enough to afford a few, maybe a whole dealership.

I'm THAT good, I'm like freaky good.
How good would it be if you went to the track, whacked 50 quid on the 100-1 shot in the first, watched it win, then rolled the winnings over onto every other winner on the card, then went to the best restaurant in Mayfair to celebrate, chatted up Nigella Lawson at the bar, then as you're taking her homevia the chippy you find a bag with a million quid in it on the street. That'd be pretty good right? Wrong, I'm better.

black caviar looks a machine to me, but i dont know much about him. are his opposition genuine grade 1 horses?

i hear theyre stepping him up in trip, what will his maximum trip be?

Megsy - you wasted 10mins of your life (as a child could come up with that in 10 mins) writing that? Dear oh dear.

Revedisola, it's a she, mare to be precise [:p]

spyker ....sorry you cant read my lips, but i will paste it for you to read

a few lines quoted from the racing post site

also yes they're against grade 1 opposition, Hay List is our next best and he's a superstar in his own right, won 7 in a row I think from memory, maybe more..

type in BTC Cup 2011 in youtube, they smashed the rest

Dear Black Caviar,
I'm afraid as you live in a convict colony it would be rather inappropriate and demeaning for us to send you some competition.
That leaves you two options..Firstly you can finally ventue outside of your colony and visit civilisation across the ocean. This could be tricky with European drugtesting laws. I'm sure your colony cannot afford another Takeover Target embarassment with his TWO failed tests for anabolic steroids. It could be difficult for your trainer Moody who has failed his own tests even in your colony and currently under investigation as we speak with speculation rife as to what has been going on in your stable.
The second option is probably best...we can just show you where the power lies and just get out our loose change and buy you.You can have a much better life here.Don't worry about your aussie fans as they will keep believing in you when you get beat and would just blame trainers/jockeys/draws/aliens on your behalf.

megsy
what's the latest on Alcopop?.
40's best price with one book,33's generally.
Might back him on the day if he runs.

ahh giggity, it's cute, the good old "Black Caviar is superior, I can do no better then to call my southern hemisphere war allies convicts", just sit back in your chair, rest your chubby fingers on the keys and write "Australia produces the superior sprinting types", it is not that hard mate

Will snap a leg this race, I can sense it

you can only hope because she'd embarass your best sprinters down any straight at any course

Our drug free (Henderson doesn't train many sprinters) you mean?

Why would such a great filly want to race on tracks that seem to be designed to unbalance and slow horses down for sheeite prize money against possibly the worst ever crop of sub mile European horses?

so one horse in the Moody stable tests positive, it could've been anything, most probably some sort of contamination in the feed batch and you idiots jump all over him simply because he trains this freak of a horse, if Moody was a drug cheat I can tell you as a matter of face he'd be found guilty by now with the amount of winners he trains, he'd be one of the first to have his horses tested based purely on his success

To add to that, Joe Janiak uses a substance to help Takeover Target to relax when travelling overseas and you lot pin him for that, it's not like he tested positive after winning a race so you can't question the trainer's intergrity

I like when the English have a go at the Aussies about horseracing they refer to the horses as European.

penzance ...alls looking good, i think he is to run in the next week or 2...but i have been impressed with the import midas touch, who was given time to climatise and in astute hands who seemed to have toughen him up. good chance in a few group races coming up....i will keep you informed

denathorn Joined: 09 May 11
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Will snap a leg this race, I can sense it




why would anyone say something like that, like seriously!

Have you seen the racetracks? More like farm tracks, surprised if any horse goes a career without serious injury

only need to read denathorns posts to see this angry ant  still hasnt left school....primary school

laughs at farm tracks comment, but not worth commenting on an idiot

denathorn Joined: 09 May 11
Replies: 877 04 Oct 11 12:28 
Will snap a leg this race, I can sense it



JESUS

GANT007 ...correct, always europe, not england.

Okokokok my post about the leg was in fairness to me, ehem, it was a joke ffs. Maybe in bad taste and I seriously hope nothing bad happens to her.

lol Educeeee with selective sound bites again,ill educated,intellectually challenged ignoramus.

Btw no one seems to have mentioned the fact that SYTs Arc run was on a par with those two world beaters,Bago and Marrienbard.[;)]

running the last 1000m in a sub 57 seconds, faster than even the winner. yeah it was a poor run by SYT

Never said it was a poor run megsy,in the context of the race it was good.However the fact is even the winner is barely on a par with Bago who clocked 2.25 in a messy race with slightly more give in the ground and carrying more weight.

you will find that bago carried 8-11 where as SYT carried more 9-5

and you failed to mention 3yr olds have a great record winning 9 of the last 11 Arc's with a huge weight pull on the older horses

Yes megsy correct,was thinking of Marrienbard who carried 9-5.

Good to see you fancy an ex irish trained Horse megsy,Midas Touch was previously trained by the Genius that is Aidan o'brien,Runner up in the irish Derby and also in the St Leger

OnTheSnaff ...yes ive seen the horse in person, a very nervous horse when he arrived, given time to climatise and has since been re educated and toughen up. should go well, in astute hands and the new owner knows his horses and is a bigger genius,probably improved the horse many lengths.

i wonder do english horses improve for australian air?

They normally improve once a jockey is placed on top not a monkey.

would you be in a position to provide what you consider an appropriate example?

sepoy heading to england next year to finish his career is on the cards, possibly the best 3yr old sprinter in 25 years. 8 wins, $3,439,500 prize money


Timeform's Gary Crispe was impressed with Sepoy, after the crack colt delivered a resounding endorsement of the superiority he displayed during his juvenile year by winning at elite level against older horses at Moonee Valley on Friday...

The Peter Snowden-trained three-year-old colt Sepoy, a winner of the rare Blue Diamond Stakes/Golden Slipper Stakes double at two, demolished a top line up of older sprinters in the Group 1 Manikato Stakes over 1200m.

On a slow surface, Sepoy ran to a Timeform rating of 128+ with a performance belonging only to class gallopers of his age.

After dipping slightly as the barriers opened, Sepoy quickly gathered himself up and railed through to hold the lead in a fierce early battle with Queenslander Buffering.

After travelling 600m, the rider of Buffering handed up the lead to Sepoy who by that stage had done plenty of early work to gain the front.

Rider Kerrin McEvoy wisely steadied the colt soon after for a breather before asking him to sprint again after turning for home.

And Sepoy did not disappoint, answering the call in no uncertain manner, dashing away to beat Sister Madly by over two lengths with multiple Group 1-winning mare More Joyous a further three lengths away in third.

An analysis of the sectional times shows just how much pressure was applied in the final 800m. Sepoy broke 12 seconds for each of the last 200m sections of the race, and was the only horse to break 12 seconds for the last 200m, again illustrating how strong the colt was at the finish despite expending excess energy reserves early in the race.

Sepoy's final race time was just over a second and a half faster than standard under slow conditions at the Valley while his final 600m was also well inside standard.

The form and ratings profiles for the first four horses across the line supports a 128 Timeform rating for Sepoy while the race standard puts the race just short of the possible mid-range of values.

A 128 figure makes Sepoy the highest rated winner of the race in the last 25 years and the first three-year-old since Redoute's Choice in 1999 to win the Manikato Stakes. In fact Sepoy became just the seventh of his age to win the sprint feature and significantly joined the mighty 1960's sprinter Vain as the only three-year-olds to have won the Golden Slipper and Manikato Stakes in the same calendar year.

A rating of 128+ for Sepoy places him in elite company for Australian three-year-old sprinters, second only to Weekend Hussler (Timeform rated 130) in the modern era.

A clash with super mare Black Caviar is eagerly awaited.


IT would be the clash of a lifetime to see Sepoy matching it with Black Caviar, but tragically for Aussie punters the only possibility of such a match race eventuating will be at Royal Ascot next year.

With Sheik Mohammed's wealth it is a waste of time a promoter trying to dangle a rich prize in front of the owners and, with the possibility of a $100 million stud career awaiting him if Sepoy cracks it in the UK, there is no hope of the colt staying in Australia long in 2012.

Megsy has clearly never seen Craig Williams, Kerrin McEvoy or Hugh Bowman ride a finish - woeful

with the possibility of a $100 million stud career awaiting him if Sepoy cracks it in the UK

And yet our racing is rubbish, our horses poor, our trainers can't train and our riders can't ride, strange one that........

TradeFair  wtf are you on about??, just imforming other punters around the world about a very good horse who maybe heading to the northern hemisphere.

in your smart ass post

quote Megsy has clearly never seen Craig Williams, Kerrin McEvoy or Hugh Bowman ride a finish - woeful

you have no fcuking idea what i know, let alone Kerrin McEvoy rode a couple of races for me at wangaratta as an apprentice, a month before he won on brew in the melb cup that set up his career.

GORGE.............another Aussie superstar.Cant believe he never got a mention on any threads,he has now.[;)]

What race could Sepoy, Frankel and Black Caviar meet in next year?
Price it up?

Come on the caviar,on toast like your rugby team,Ireland and Europe await to eat you ALIVE

i noticed you never mentioned england. isnt europe a few dozen countries or more?? ffs.

Only the English mention Engerland megsy.hth[;)]