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How good is Aidan O'Brien?
How good is Aidan O'Brien?
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Joe O Brien has already stated that his future is over the jumps
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/seville-a-p-obrien-j-p-obrien-obrien-looks-to-future-over-jumps/912561/ |
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harch, to be fair joseph was riding in a group one and was riding prominently so i wouldnt have any problem with how many times he hit the horse. if hes coming from behind its easy to see if the horse is going to win snugly but not from where he was, just behind the leader.
its debatable whether or not he deserves group one rides, possibly not given what seamie and colm are capable of and their experience etc, but any father in the position of aidan would do the same. ive seen him give mediocre rides but hes a 3lb claimer lets remember, and i think hes one of the best and most polished 3lb claimers ive seen on the flat. its likely to be because of his experience on top notch horses, but its irrelevant how his ability to ride came about. i think he gets criticised more than he should because people think he shouldnt get the rides he does. if he was joseph murphy and rode handicappers for a living he be raved about and people would be talking about him as a future champion jock, and saying he deserves way more opportunities. thats what i think anyhow |
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Fantastic Trainer.....even better Father.
However he does speak some nonesense and his non-commital to everything re:media is disappointing. He should go back Jumps Training IMO...to give Joey a few nice one's to start him off  [;)] |
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id say what he says on camera is not up to him[:(]
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Ted Caine was a better placer of horses.NAP
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Even still Reve....anything basic would be grand.
I remember they asked him who would win the Hurling one year and he spouted the usually stuff. Awful depressing. Magnier at least speaks his mind when he speaks. |
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Rubyisgod who the fook are you talking about,his father ffs?
rofl wouldnt be hard to be better would it. [smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy] |
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a father to his kids[;)]....
I vote him for Dad of the Year!. He couldn't possibly thank anyone other than himself...that would be amusing |
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interesting thread lads, all the angles covered, he is very good imo, but there is no definitive anwser. I'd have him along with Oxx, Cecil, Stoute, Gosden and Cumani( for peaking them, if he ever got a really good string, I'd say he'd be winning Gr 1's all over the world, has great vision and planning), they're the Premier trainers imo, nothing original but i think it stands.
I think Lyons is the man who could possibly move forward in Ireland, places his horses very well, but might want to improve on his demeanor in public, of the UK set, i think botti is extremely shrewd and has perfected the art early of giving nothing away in interviews. |
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im sure excelebrations former owner would agree with you re marco being shrewd. what a buy!
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still part owners are they not?
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Lyons poos to often in his own nest.AOB cannot hold a candle to the others mentioned,Stevie Wonder could have done at least as well as him.imvho of course.
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Yeah great commercial breeding prospect Exceed and excell and that, yeah really good miler, I hope Goldi wins another in America though 8/1 is tempting, surely they won't be silly enough to take on Frankel again, it is the ideas that they might go left field and go Dirt mile for breeding reasons that puts me off more than anything, especially if they hear goldi is going well. Great buy indeed, but I listened to his interview on ATR the other day, on for the guts of 10 minutes, and said absolutely nothing
, a gift in itself, I think he might be a future Godolphin trainer one day myself, or a Niarchos of something, when the money is down they're usually close enough, best indicator in many ways at this stage for what seems a relatively straight stable. |
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or*
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5 pints takena nd too bollixed for town
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excelebration all the way
 goldi has no chance[:x] |
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Reve is blinded again.imvho[:p][:p]
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Blasphemy to the night crew, forgive him
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leave it out fellas, shes regressive, hes very talented and progressive! with the exception, he has only been beaten twice and by 2 horses, frankel and zoffany. goldi isnt getting younger, and 8/1 excel is a steal
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with the exception of his first maiden that is...
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I tend to agree you know
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LOL
[;)][smiley:crazy] |
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 neill, agreeing with me could get you in trouble you know |
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Tutti pazzi,tutti stupido,tutti arabiatao per che Goldi e numero uno.
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she was, but she hasnt had to race an excelebration before[:(]
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I won't be backing up the oppinion tbh, the fact he's 8/1 in itself is worrying imo, who wants to be the hoss to deny her another BC mile, goodwill n that, she has basically made the race some way fashionable all on her own imo and when she is gone, I think a lot of good Gr1 European horses will start targeting it.
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Still a goer for Friday reve?[;)]
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Why 8's if he was going, just wondering, does someone know something?, if not Ascot where, absolutely no point taking on Frankel agin, only prizemoney, surely coolmore want prestige Gr 1's, but then why is he 8's, if something looks too good to be true, it often is.
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change of plan gt, il keep you informed. neill, im not sure that preserving/enhancing goldis legacy is a top priority for coolmore[:(]
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Cheers reve,appreciated.
BTW Goldi does not need help in the US,bring them on and she will break them.nap[;)]  |
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Yes probably not, but the 8/1 looks suspicious to me, maybe they want SYT to have a go on her or something[smiley:crazy]
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i dunno, surely worth a few quid anyhow! bookies dont always get it right! |
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The only way SYT would get near her rear would be in the breeding shed and that is not an option.nap
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Goldi is a LADY btw,not some old slapper on the way down the Bois De B.
Give her some respect you sons of bitches,figlia di putana bastardi before i come and break some skulls. HTH [;)] |
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i hope you hold her in such high regard when shes beaten
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We'll revisit this I'm sure, it is the best evenings racing of the year for me, always enjoy it, suppose it will be ona little earlier this time though.
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Questions have always been asked, like here nearly 12 years ago.
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Same old bollox
Horse stays and won on suitable ground How it a great training performance? (Dog **** race run at track that suitable for (bootsale ) Pep wins everything with city Got the money and everything in place Let’s see go Luton town for 4 years see how he gets on ffs |
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The best there has ever been in my book, he gets inside a horse's head.
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