Is It Possible That We Could Organise A Punters Strike In October...The Fightback Starts Here:

Fair enough........I'm in.

Nobody will be winning shortly unless we act now...We have to make a stand...we are the punters and we are the biggest stakeholders of the lot...

It is 1.01 that Onthemachine would not win a raffle if he held the only ticket.
Always looking for others to blame for their inadequacies.

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acey duecy...no horse has left me down...jockeys and trainers have...I know this game very well and I have been privy to what I regard as very serious security breeches...A fair percentage of jockeys and trainers are in serious debt over investments in property that are now worthless...

You don't have to be Hercule Poirot to work out where they are going to the get the repayments from...it's obvious...

I am concerned that after 138 days consecutive profit to date OTM,you are asking a lot for me to have a day off taking their money.

Nobody will be winning shortly unless we act now...We have to make a stand...we are the punters and we are the biggest stakeholders of the lot.??????

WHAT A LOAD OF BOLXO -- LEARN THE ART OF TRADING YOU THICK PUFF

You pull out of betfair on the day and tell them why.Its not rocket science.I think they will know by then.And if you have no other bookmaker,get one.

If you are privy to "Inside Info" why are you bleating on here about it being wrong,you utter clown?

Imhotep...your are about the only one who has disagreed with me...I may not be a premium account holder but I do the driving(i.e. log on when they are otherwise engaged) for premium account holders...

Here they all come ONTHEMACHINE,didnt take long.

138 days consecutive profit,a bit greedy not to have a day off.

Imhotep
31 Aug 11 21:13 Joined: 19 Dec 10 | Topic/replies: 1,141 | Blogger: Imhotep's blog
If you are privy to "Inside Info" why are you bleating on here about it being wrong,you utter clown?


Not even going to honour that with a response...

sherlocksbrain, Betfair are not bookmakers,that is why I use their facility.
I do not wish to join others constantly moaning that they cannot get their bets on.

So,let me see if I have understood you,onthemachine.
You claim to be privy to inside info and are proposing a strike ?
If brains were made of elastic,you would not have enough to make a pair of garters for a Canary !

Yes but BF provides the reptiles with the outlet to make easy money...Races are worth €1,600 and some of those in the know are making 10 times that when the good thing does not win...

Imhotep
31 Aug 11 21:16 Joined: 19 Dec 10 | Topic/replies: 1,142 | Blogger: Imhotep's blog
So,let me see if I have understood you,onthemachine.
You claim to be privy to inside info and are proposing a strike ?
If brains were made of elastic,you would not have enough to make a pair of garters for a Canary !



If brains was bird sh1t you would have a cage...

Ok...lets get back to the point and away from from attention seeking dullards...We must act and act fast...Lets man up and get the show on the road...Lets show them what we are made of...

This has to be a wind up

No I'm really serious...The game is as bent as it ever has been...Races are not fixed but well punted horses are being stopped...Get with the programme gosmash...

I have owned or part owned horses for over 10 years. Can someone tell me where this inner sanctum as I have never found it. Over the years we have had a few gambles on our horses when they look like they have had a great chance and some have come off while the majority, for various reasons have failed. Additionally, sometimes our horses have won when we thought they had no chance.
The problem is that most horses are inconsistent and the older ones have been patched up and it's not possible to be 100% certain how they will perform.
I do object to being made out by On The Machine that I am some sort of parasite living off the stakeholders. It costs £20k a year just to run a horse and he has to be pretty decent to win half that in prize money. Doesn't that make me a stakeholder too?

machine   i dont doubt the game is not straight. what i mean is, the chances of organising a punters strike ?
and i'm the one who is not with the program !!

OTM are you on Doctor Jamiesons embalming fluid or Magners liniment?

Races are not fixed but well punted horses are being stopped?[;)]

The man is certifiable, Glentoby.
He is in the "Inner Sanctum" (a very rare and priviliged position) and obviously making money faster than the Bank of England yet he wants a Strike !
The Government's Care in the Community Act has a lot to answer for.

Imhotep,its a bit cowardly to slag the man off when he has left the forum.

Shut you English ****...and fock off to bed for a w@nk...

Still here,you give as good as you get.

You have been indulging OTM.[;)]

Not only is the OP a cretin,he is illiterate as well.
Good night all.

Sorry that should have read...shut the fock up you thick English chu-nt...Fock off to bed and pull your wire...

Imhotep...your are evil...It's thick fockers like you that ruin this form...Just don't post here anymore...

Correct.

I am sane,onthesauce which is clearly not a statement that can be made about you.
If there was an IQ test for posting,the Forum would have single digit posters and you would certainly not be one of them.
May I suggest you take your medication and have a good night's sleep before coming up with your next posting of utter lunacy.
Finally,the BF Forum is for an exchange of views (even from clueless cretins like you).

Now that we are back on track again...Let's get some informed opinion from some of the more intelligent forumites...

Informed opinion ?
ROFFL.

Now that we are back on track again...Let's get some informed opinion from some of the more intelligent forumites...

You wont find many intelligent life forms on here late at night,im afraid.Just sad old men.

I live in hope of justice...I just hate seeing the mugs being ripped off...When they are not being cleaned by dead meat they are drawn to the highly addictive cartoon racing...Nothing more depressing that watching the socially deprived dregs of society roaring at Wyndham Lewis or John Bunyan on a wet Monday evening in November...

So do i,but i doubt we will see any in our lifetime.You cant even get any on here.It will happen on here soon though.

It won't be long before a good number of well known faces are carried out with handcuffs on..FACT...The desperation amongst the so called elite to pay off debt on failed investments is growing with every hour...it's like a pressure cooker...and remember that a rat will do anything to survive...

Good,cant wait for the day.Same on here,the time is up for the bullies an evil doers.

what is a win no loose account , it hardley means they give you your money back if you loose  , secondly this sounds great but even if it were to go ahead the bookies would fight back , plus for all you know i am a bookmaker and could easliy say no punting great why should we do this bla bla bla , you could have moles in the club , it is a public forum

The day is nigh,just like at News International.

Win no lose = where a person on the inside gives a bookmaking firm highly privileged information...their reward is free bets up to a certain limit...i.e. if they tell them that an odds on shot won't win they might get £5,000 in free bets...If the bets lose they just have their credit reduced...The real idea is that no direct reward was handed over for the info...

I'm happy with the response that I got tonight...I think that we will achieve an all out punters strike in October...and show the big shots that we are up for the fight...

They don't realise that we are people that pour millions and millions into racing every day without fail...well the gravy train is going to grind to a shuddering halt sometime very soon...

Be afraid...be very afraid...

ah i see very clever indeed , keeps both parties clean should anything ever arise

3 or 4 trainers admitted to having such accounts a few years back...if I'm not mistaken...

OTM,Keep up the good work.You are not alone.

Thanks Sherlock...I intend to make it a fight to the death...It will benefit everybody when the game is cleaned up...

Absolutely correct.

Please keep this thread going throughout Thursday...

Thank you...

Reuters Newsflash! Reuters Newsflash!

At 0700 hours this morning, Metropolitan Police Pro-Active Support Team backed up by the BHA Integrity Department smashed their way into the home of a well-known anarchist and arrested him on suspicion of inciting punter disobedience and conspiring with others to cause civil unrest.

Officers were seen leaving the premises with several bin bags of losing betting slips. As the home occupant was led into a police van he could be heard shouting, "I've got lots of friends on Betfair and they won't let you get away with this!"

A "punters strike" whilst in theory sounds like a good idea will not work by this.... a thread on Betfair forum. Like it or not many who frequent betting shops or even those that bet online will be oblivious to ant of this.

Also - you need a clear idea of what you are aiming to achieve. IF this does catch on you will need to explain what the strike is about - so far the only reasons on here are cobbled together assertions about the nature of the "inner sanctum"

A "punters strike" whilst in theory sounds like a good idea will not work by this.... a thread on Betfair forum. Like it or not many who frequent betting shops or even those that bet online will be oblivious to ant of this.

Also - you need a clear idea of what you are aiming to achieve. IF this does catch on you will need to explain what the strike is about - so far the only reasons on here are cobbled together assertions about the nature of the "inner sanctum"

A "punters strike" whilst in theory sounds like a good idea will not work by this.... a thread on Betfair forum. Like it or not many who frequent betting shops or even those that bet online will be oblivious to ant of this.

Also - you need a clear idea of what you are aiming to achieve. IF this does catch on you will need to explain what the strike is about - so far the only reasons on here are cobbled together assertions about the nature of the "inner sanctum"

"OTM,Keep up the good work.You are not alone"

You are certainly not alone.
The Asylums are full of your ilk,you certifiable cretin.

We have go to keep the push for a PUNTERS STRIKE going...

Btw you are minus one soldier OTM,sherlocksbrain banned back to the nuthouse.[;)]

Any other takers...Is everybody that happy with their lot???

We have to unite and take on the murky underworld? If not punters are doomed forever...that is a fact...instead of pocket talking let hit the big boys in the pocket...Come on...

What about those of us who like being in the murky underworld OTM,taking money from the books is what it is all about shirley? You cant expect punters who have punted the info I give to return the money,it would make them hypocrites if they went on strike.I would like to help but I cant tell 6 puters on to have a day off,how will they put food on the table?

I admire your intentions OTM. But it simply wouldn't work.
Gamblers don't do collective activism. They do everything for themselves, and for money.
A little campaign got going on Facebook after Betfair upped the premium charge. And, to a degree, it worked. The liquidity on here dived and surged on the d aq.
Then the main campaign players disappeared as quickly as they emerged. All the other grievances and issues they discussed were quickly forgotten once they had started cashing in again.

Hey watchit...I have seen that documentary...thanks for posting up the link...It's very much appreciated...Keep up the good work...The Jockey Club looked very sloppy in this programme...

The big thing to take out of that documentary is one sentance "this was an industry rapidly closing ranks"...they were all in on it...all making easy money...where was it coming from...the ordinary punters...

I agree. it needs to be done and would be a willing participant...

However imo your message will only ever reach a very small % of punters.probably not enough to make any significant impact.

Maybe trial days midweek,see how it goes.with the objective obviously a Saturday.

Thanks kohaku...I will be targetting other internet forums and various different mediums to spread the word...We need to get all punters on board not just horse racing punters...

Get on to Mystic Meg OTM,owner,punter and MEDIUM.[;)]

laudable idea...but unlikely in the extreme

FD couldnt you have some mankinis printed up for OTM?[;)]

there is oneway to do this though

Everybody should look up the Panorama documentary on YouTube...it's under Bent Horse Racing...it's in 6 parts and very few people have viewed the clips...

Every time I look at it it amazes how slow the Jockey Club were to act. If they feared foe their lives which I'm sure was a risk that had to have entered the equation they should have gone straight to the police...Punters were backing dead meat for years and the finger was pointed more so at National Hunt jockeys more so than Flat jockeys...The words "a whole generation" were used. That's not to say that flats jockeys were in on the act.

My firm opinion is that races are not fixed but that lots of favourites are being stopped...If races were being fixed wholesale the arse would have fallen out of the game a long time ago.

Any thoughts on this?

"My firm opinion is that races are not fixed but that lots of favourites are being stopped"
Any thoughts on this ?

Yes,you have the IQ of a chimp with learning difficulties.

ROFFL

Why don't you justify your comments racingstar??? Whats your problem? Don't post if you have nothing constructive to add...

OTM,
Just because somebody takes exception to your lunatic ideas does not mean they have nothing constructive to say.
Indeed,the suggestion that you would struggle to debate with a chimp makes perfect sense to me.
Give it up,you utter clown.

Imhotep...My identity will be in public domain before too long...Trust me you will be very surprised to find out who I am...Believe me this strike will happen. Your negative attitude and empty waffle is just a waste of time...It's people like you that keep the game fully funded...You are most likely a mug who knows little or nothing about how corrupt racing is...

"My identity will be in public domain before too long"

ROFFL


Incidentally,the game (as you put it) has supplied me with a very good living for over twenty five years.
I am perfectly happy with the way it is.

And it took you over 10 years to log here??? Log on to www.getagrip.com

Sharp minds @Betfair...Who trained you??? Having A Laugh And Sons Ltd

I have proposed that the strike goes ahead on Saturday October 08th 2011...i have set up another thread to deal with this issue...I think that it is a suitable date but I open to a debate on the matter...

Fair play to OTM i have often thought of putting up a thread like this. Certain races i have seen in Ireland this year have been particulary bad with the with fancied horses travelling strongly till the last and then apparently finding nothing under a less than animated jockey. Then the stewards give the jock/trainer a slap on the wrist. If the livelyhood of said persons was brought into question by lenghtly bans these situations would happen less often. The pressure for change, in sport comes from the money that funds it and public opinion. If betfairs turnover is affected by boycotts the natural thing for it to do would be to ask for more transparency and fairness. Im in.

Well Im off to see King Lear on 01/10 so thats me missing that day. In the past I would have a bet on the big race of the day, but im betting less and less on horses now. Mon- Fri usually crap racing Sat its too much. Last week was betting on cricket20/20, this week will prob do the one dayer. The funny thing is and Im sure i speak for most 30+ on here that it was the horses that got me into betting and now im turning more to other sports. Roll on jumps season.

Any more thoughts??? This strike has to go ahead...

ROFFL

Will there be virtual pickets ?

Yes it WILL BE AN ALL OUT STRIKE...with pickets at betting shops etc...they haven't looked after the main stake holders...not it's payback...

Will it be covered live on CNN?[;)]

No...it's a UK and Republic Of Ireland strike only...

Are we still up the battle...we have come too far to turn around now...We cannot let them win...

The Big 3 must be pooping themselves with you in charge of this 'strike' OTM

Pooping themselves with gales of laughter,Galitzin !
You could not strike a match,OTM.

Wait and see...

it's like asking a bunch of drug addicts to stop buying for a day in protest that the price of the gear is too high imo

What are you on tonight? Magners? The black stuff?

Who is in favour of a strike now...even the jockeys are going on strike...some mugs on here seriously need to get a grip...and quick...

Now is the time to act...

OTM - you realise that if the jockeys strike you won't need to?

Do jockey's play soccer professional soccer as well darts, snooker, rugby, tennis etc...it's an all out strike we need...

[;)]

Hello! Is rscaughtboy here?

No. Shoot.

I was going to explain to him why Dancing Brave was better than STS.

Never mind I will look elsewhere.

Answer?