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Who did Paul Doc work for before going public tic tac? Was it Billy Ash?
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Arthur was on his own .but gus interacted with the William OLiver firm ,e.g. Cradley dogs
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Wasnot,i cant remember sorry, he did use to hang about with the biggest fraud ever (Don Butler}
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Leslie Steele - still alive ?
The late Pat Whelan - still remember his fedora hat Len Boden - class midland layer Terry Myers - still in Australia ? |
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NEVILLE BERRY SR.and JNR.?
Remember the Alan Spence bet when JNR. was working for the Nanny on course . Forgot to notify it.Anyonr remember the Details? |
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Alec Denby
Alec King Archie Tate Mike Dawson Alan Brown Graham Nalton |
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CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD
Date Joined: 07 May 06 Add contact | Send message When: 25 Jan 11 23:03 BARNETT...PETER AND JOE ....FROM THE SOUTH WORKED FOR HIM ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS ESPECIALLY AT YARMOUTH HAD CRACKING PITCHES WOULDNT LAY A BET THOUGH,ONE DAY AT YARMOUTH HE LAID A MONKEY A HORSE CALLED THE WHITE LION AT 100-30...NOW NOBODY GOT THAT BET WITH HIM HE SAYS TO THE FLOOR MAN OFF YA GO ,NOW IVE NEVER KNOWN A HORSE SHORTEN SO MUCH IN A SHORT SPACE OF TIME AND WITHIN 3 MINUTES THEY WERE PUTTING ON AT 2-1 IT WENT OFF 11-8....THE FLOORMAN COMES BACK AND HE SAYS HOW MUCH YA GOT ON AND THE KID SAYS ...NOTHING ..I COLLAPSED IN STATE LAUGHTER THE KID HAD BEEN GONE 15 MINUTES....HE WAS TAKING 7-4 OF THE PRIVATES AND ENDED UP LAYING A 55 TENNERS,THE HORSE FINISHED TAILED ,AFTER THE RACE HE GOT HIS 3 CREAM CAKES OUT AND SAID ILL HAVE THE ECLAIR,AND PATRICK WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE AND I SAID ILL HAVE THE DOUGHNUT ......AND THE KID GOT FK ALL When Joe died, he left Peter a surprise in his will - he did not notleave him the pitches. So Peter decided to go into the, erm, adult entertainment industry ie he rented a flat and sublet it to hookers. Peter found himself wanted by her majesty, so decided to hop off to Spain, where he died of a heart attack shortly afterwards ? mid '90s. |
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shalimah,
now here's a good story from soon after i first started re ALEC DENBY myself and my clerk vic , john brown [ burnley ] and arthur , ron charles and tracy and kim all went out for a steak meal whilst down at the cheltenham festival. we happened to go into the same hotel restaurant that alec denby was a resident . he was there with a group of others eating and drinking too. when we were ready to pay and leave the waitress came with the bill and asked which room we were . i won't say who but alec denby's room key was on the table next to us so as quick as a flash he said that number. the girl was happy and booked all seven steaks to alec denby. we gave the girl a tenner tip which was a lot in those days [ 1970's ] happy days |
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lol Adge. JL who bets now almost certainly footed the bill.
btw i am nap on Ron. |
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Adge ..Ron C. 1/100.to be the one who spoke.
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That Cliff bookmaker on earler post was from barnsley, he must have been 75 years old ,He packed in when pitch sales started.
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The Doc was a good goalie , once played for the English v the Scots one Ayr Gold Cup week , had a stormer , saved everything , got chaired off and he loved it . Cash is spot on -the Doc was loud and different class for knowing , sadly missed.
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thinking about it the above would be mid 80's as we didn't stay in gloucesteruntil after 1980. kim was 14 years old when she first worked [ 18 if the bpa asked ]
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what about JACK LYNN and his son ROY wouldnt lay much over a score and always had funny odds like 9/5 etc
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talking about barnsley bookmakers
GRANVILLE PEARSON smiler was a class act. died suddenly while taking a bath.a great loss to the ring. STUART RYAN..pat ryan and his family have all worked in racing , and still are in various ways. pat was another bookmaker beaten by progress , his major problem being the njpc insisting on the new joints [ no rentals in early days ].he and his wife just couldn't physically transport everything into the ring. a quality bookmaker , still makes the odd appearance . |
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Captain Mcluskey,played in that match the doc was superb,also alec(macbet)played very well and Mickey Maguire's(of The LAST BOOK fame) grandson (i think) was a bit tasty!
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BEAUTIFUL STUFF
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Fred Ash, from the Midlands, met him when he bought a shop in Torquay, early 80's. I used to flap my dogs at Newton Abbot, Exeter, St. Austell and Glastonbury. Fred loved the dogs (was the owner of Dumbles Maid, Oaks winner 48?) Fred would come along and put money on when I was having a go. Sadly no longer with us.
Also Harry "Brylcream" Metcalfe, used to bet at Exeter flap and at the horses of course, never a problem, also passed on I believe. |
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Fred Honour, good layer - owned a dog that got to the Derby Final I believe.
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I remember Fred democrat, Ray Rains and Dennis Tuttlebee at the dogs as well.
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Baker & Martin - those of the white coats - wonder why ?
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AL MACS were are they now ?
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wilf boyd bet at northern points?
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Anyone remember Wilf Botterill?
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did he bet at notts wasnot? bit of a plc?
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john hourahane still bets number 1 royal ascot silver
jolly joe still bets at windsor 3 more here s little b jacobs d hudson |
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has
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What about Duggie Tyler,Roger Allsop(Athur Stanley)
Johnny Lights |
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are dudley roberts and his lad still around the southern tracks
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"js".............Iknow the details.......so did Bill Balshaw.
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"Al Dente".......Harry Metcalfs son also died .........at an early age.
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When we used to bet in the hall at Doncaster NH we used to bet next to a bookie called Harry Milner. Anyone remember him?
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yes wasnot,in the latter years the guy who was on the stool was derek websters brother i think.
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Really? Never knew that. Wilf Botterill did bet at Nottingham btw. I can also remember them at Huntingdon and Market Rasen. Didnt the chap who now bets as Ted Spreckley work for him?
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betting shop owners in london
max thomas harringay harry lake palmers green george basham southgate danny mack south london alfie hunt islington william massey east london johnny walters harringay james lane south london ronnie knight/mickey regan islington charlie nagle finsbury park william taylor islington jimmy vango edmonton hector mcdonald north london lawsons maida vale the sportsman north london harry harris swiss cottage tommy wisbey islington sid kiki mill hill mel starkins mill hill john nelson hornsey jimmy wooder islington all sports/phillips winchmore hill dixie droy islington |
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ALWAYS REMEMBER THE DOC BETTING EIGHT FIFTIES ON ONE AT LEICESTER OVER THE JUMPS WITH RON SIMCOTT,IT DIDNT FALL BUT STILL GOT BEAT,THE FUNNY THING ABOUT DOC WAS HE WOULD STAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BOOKS THAT HAD LAID THE JOLLY AND GIVE IT THE BIG EI EI WHEN IT HAD WON,BUT WHEN THE BOOT WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT HE WAS A TERRIBLE LOSER USED TO GO CRIMSON
STILL HE WAS A CHARACTER WHO WILL ALWAYS BE MISSED.HE ONCE BET ME FIVE HUNDRED TO TWO ON ONE IN A PHOTO AT NOTTINGHAM THAT ALSO GOT BEAT![]() |
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ISNT IT FUNNY HOW THE FLIMPERS AND THE BURGLARS ALWAYS SEEM TO STICK IN THE MIND
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wasnot,wasnt creamcake the clerk? didnt they all have a share?
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I think the chap who made the book wasnt Wilf Botterill but a young whippersnapper who was doing it for him. He looked over 100 years old himself!
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"factmachine"
"Charles James" = Roy Woolgar. |