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A WHERE ARE THEY NOW OFF BOOKIES ..A-Z
A WHERE ARE THEY NOW OFF BOOKIES ..A-Z
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B ....reg Blanford.
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L-Alec Lewis (Whitley Bay)many a tale can be told of Alec & they'll all be true.The classic was when Hoggy had a share in on the condition that the lining in the hod was sewn back up.
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Bet e/w when most wanted to bet win only brngtwt, Martin still going strong. Ben Parker and Arthur Phillips.
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Back to the C's,I've just remembered one of the legends of the Northern Bookmakers.
Robert Corkhill traded as Bobby Hill,the man who brought Neville the Devil into the game.This man was a better fiddler than Max Jaffa.One of the most popular Bookmakers ever in the North. |
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vaguely remember a welsh firm John (?) Hourahan
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Someone earlier mentioned big bellies...........which made me think of GRB....My did he like having a bar one...or the front 10!!!......Swear I saw him betting on the aways one day under the odds everything bar the 33s pokes!
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Yes, John Hourahane is from Cardiff. Not sure if he is still active on racecourses, apologies if thats wrong.
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Think you are right intheknow and believe he was a former policeman.
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his son is in partnership with alan wilcox.
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roxyb 26 Jan 11 21:19 ricky nelson bet at perth
He could sing a bit too. Hello Mary Lou Goodbye Heart / Travelin' Man are particular favorites of mine. |
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Ricky Nelson ( bookmaking version ). Real name Ricardo Macari- still betting in Scotland and at Newcastle, flat. He owns several pubs in Edinburgh. Great guy.
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weasel what are you doing on here there is a right sort on 955 don't tell me the mrs hasn't gone to bed yet !
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John Henwood i believe JH still bets @ wimbledon He certainly does stand at Wimbledon p2p, bets straight now not without the jolly like he used to, only three books last time I went. Henwood, John White and Atreed. There used to be about 14 books years ago. |
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How about some postings flash - never mind looking at some pay-per-view channel that only you and SOGY can afford !
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going back 20 mayb 25 yrs at the south/east p2points there were some real characters. one in rarticular who also bet in the cheap side at catford dogs,his name was wal he bet under the banner anderson almost certainly not his name as most books never bet under their real name then.he was in his 50's then and wud turn up with a different busty tart every week too many funny stories to tell u bout wal but heres a quikie,i was clerking for alan wrigglesworth and as u know he has neva been guilty of standing 1 for more than £3, anyway wal comes in and asks wriggles for a £500/£1000 the odds on chance wriggles bet him i nearly fainted knowing if any tic/tac/ floorman asked for a £100/14 they got halved.anyway wriggles rushed round and finished up havin a £600/£1200 bak all in i asked him why he had so much on he said he thought it a certainty. you guessed it got beat . after racing wal gave wriggles a kite for the long un u guessed , its still bouncing.
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flash bookie, I would have been at Catford at that time, I hardly missed a meeting for 20 years but am struggling to think of an Anderson, maybe wasn't under that guise. I remember Wally Harison over that side Tony Kemp, Sid Hooper and Tony Bryely well amongst others, they were certainly the good old days at Catford cherries.
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I forgot Steve Gibbs, he was there as well at that time though I never bet with him after I was at Brighton many years ago and asked for 16 ponies when it was showing on his board and he wouldn't take it.
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slippy, it must have deen wally harison then he was well in with the south london "gagster set" HE HAD ALL the banter and the birds and would give a thin/un a stripe if he was holding
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Bumped into John Power{jenkins}in Northern Cyprus a few years back had Football betting shops there,good to see he still going.
JOHN WHITE? Thought this was about Bookmakers? |
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I used to go to Hackney Saturday mornings when The Viking was in full flow there, he was the nuts as a bookie. Also was at Wembley must be at least 25 years ago when he took a 10,000/1600 twice and left the 6's up for the sheep of which I was one (baa) it got beat needless to say
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L - Graham Liles. Seemed more interested in sticking on a shortie than taking a bet.
W - Tom Westwood - inoffensive chap. T - Frank Thorpe - by god he had a temper! |
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the viking laid 6/1 for 5k the first race at wembley to a trainer the dog won
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Reg,Thats the Viking,but time catches up on us all,thinning grey now
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Both the twins did Reg, Tom and John Jenkins.
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The game has gone,devoid of anyone with any character. Bring back Billy Brown
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Wasnot.."Tom Westwood"sold up as soon as he could,he was a pretty wealthy chap anyway.He has just retired from betting at Kinsley Dogs,still in good health,and wealth.
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thanks for info of alfie eyelashs wally harrison bet at new cross,wimbledon,catford. name was brian died a couple of years ago. dave saphir lives on south coast |
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If we're upto the S/s there's the daddy of them all who hasn't been mentioned.
SUGAR STEWART Newcastle The most arrogant,ignorant,useless old t w at that ever graced a betting ring.Everybody was a mug to Sugar yet he had some of the best pitches in the country but he was always skint.Even away from the betting ring he didn't change much except if he had money he would spend unlike some,the only problem being it was very rare he had out. Whilst I'm in this mood another miserable old sod was Harry Eaton-Sunderland.He made Len Boocock look like William Hill. Bob Muir-Newcastle,big mate of Harry's after the Hexham fiasco. Sandy Maul-The Borders,A true gentleman of the ring & a good socialiser as well.Hawick Common Riding will never be the same since Sandys gone. Joe Neilson-Newcastle Traded as Scottie Wilson must have been in every pub North of Newcastle to Edinburgh & plenrt more elsewhere. Slim Somerville-Edinburgh Slims still trading I believe but I've included him on here as along with the two purely because they occasionaly enjoyed a little one or two when they met. Cluney-Edinburgh Yet another mate of the three above,all characters who unforunately are sadly missed on the Northern circuit. |
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Back to B - Reg Boyle. Seemed like a good layer in his younger years. The technology overtook him I think.
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j is for jolly joe (the daily treble) "numbers 3, 12, and 16 pays £85 all for £2, ticket number 57 thank you very much". i think he calculated the odds for the treble by adding the sp of the three winners together rather than multiply them lololol.
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Jolly Joe...now we're talking I spent about half an hour once looking at his board in the Goodwood silver, about the size of the Isle Of Wight!
'Thats threeeee, eighteeeeeeeeen, one hundred and twenty five pouuuunds....for a twoo pound stake' Think the true odds were over a thousand! Dont think he would get away with it now. |
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wasnot,reg boyle had plenty of shops,sold them for plenty as well,son not particularly interested,not surprised really.
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ribero, did you ever come across a bookie in the northern circuit by the name of John Jocye?
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John Joyce was just before my time. Bit of a crowd puller I understand.
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jolly joe, bernie, still operates sandown.
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Was it Jolly Joe that used to ring the handbell?
A good crowd puller that bell. I remember Tony Lusardi also had a bell just prior to the N.J.P.C. when he used to help with the pitches at Goodwood or Ascot.Ring the bell,gather round.Happy Days. |
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I was at Lingfield one time and Jolly Joe went biggest one of Cecils at 9/4. I asked him for a 450 to 200 expecting to get a 90/40. Lo and behold he lays it and it wins. It was the only time I ever saw a bookie scrape the bottom of the bag for the last of the readies. Everyone around was laughing. Fair play – he was most gracious.
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i knew john joyce when i was a punter,my grandad had an account with him,he was the first to mark up,got his card marked pretty well i think,funningly enough joyce and lrs never spoke for years but had a mutual respect for each other,i actually know john joyces son through a mutual friend,wasnt interested in bookmaking,nice guy,became a lawyer i think.
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Just dug out my last copy of the Midlands seniority lists from before the NJPC. Some names (not all) from the Cheltenham tatts list who (I think) no longer operate follow in descending order of personal seniority. If anyone knows what they are up to (or are now dead) please let us know:
Dick Wallden Ted Rodgers (RIP) John King Frank Butler Arthur Phillips George Bradford Len Walton Frank Morton George Fletcher Graham Liles Geoff Toms Harry Morgan Billy Ball Ron Bolton Laurie Dolan William Beresford Ken Sargeant Fred Button George (Mel) Jones Bill Corless John Tovey Len Da Costa Sonny Peter Watson Gordon Power Alex Hamil Ken Mercer Watson Bros W & G Reagan Jack Cohen Terry Robinson William Oliver Stuart & Richards John Lythall Benny Jacobs Tom James Jack West Harry Little Billo Griffiths |
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Mel Jones - Dead.
John Tovey - Bad Stroke. Gordon Power - Dead. |