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Sir Harry Lewis
18 Nov 10 16:25
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Does anyone do it for a living and whats the best way?
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Report Blades November 18, 2010 4:26 PM GMT
forget it. stop dreaming and get a proper job...unless you know a few jockeys???
Report Virgin November 18, 2010 4:32 PM GMT
Yes


but I'm fooking starving Cry
Report Sir Harry Lewis November 18, 2010 4:32 PM GMT
I cant afford to do it was just wondering if anyone does it.
Report dod November 18, 2010 4:35 PM GMT
Watch as much racing as you can and go on the evidence of your own eyes,and dont listen to experts there are none.
Report hello :-) November 18, 2010 4:35 PM GMT
everyone on here is unemployed and enjoying tax free earnings , you must be the only one working , are you from eastern europe ?
Report tambhoy5 November 18, 2010 4:35 PM GMT
only aim to quadruple your bank every day or you will go broke very quickly.Laugh
Report Orchardist November 18, 2010 4:37 PM GMT
I'm the other way, I live for a gamble
Report Sir Harry Lewis November 18, 2010 4:37 PM GMT
Whats the best coup yo people have had
Report MattShadrock November 18, 2010 4:39 PM GMT
I don't make a living at this, but I am reliably informed that you need to minimise risk and not have unrealistic goals. Have a daily target figure, say 5-10% of your betting bank. Once you achieve that target STOP BETTING! Control your emotions and don't allow frustration in a losing run to get the better of you. This means you must also have a stop-loss threshold, below which you must not go. This means, if you hit this threshold, then STOP BETTING and accept the loss for the day. Obviously, minimising risk must mean betting on horses that have a realistic chance, so avoid long shots and concentrate on market leaders - 1st, 2nd or 3rd favourites. Perhaps betting on really low odds horses in the place markets. Finally, some kind of staking plan might be useful.
Report Sir Harry Lewis November 18, 2010 4:41 PM GMT
Not a fav backer. Best touch i had was when right wing won the lincoln with the god quinn on board
Report Cheeeky pieces November 18, 2010 4:50 PM GMT
Beans on Toast again tonight, my kids hate the racing game.  My eldest manged to press a button on the laptop last thursday and have himself £700 on a horse in ireland, couldnt stop the gruss putting bets on, had to shut it down and go back in to trade out for a £100 profit.  He is only 3 but taken to the game already. Thats my boy.
Report Nun Trier November 18, 2010 4:52 PM GMT
"Obviously, minimising risk must mean betting on horses that have a realistic chance, so avoid long shots and concentrate on market leaders - 1st, 2nd or 3rd favourites."

imo minimizing risk = not lumping on at short odds something you cant envisage getting beaten.
Report Sir Harry Lewis November 18, 2010 4:53 PM GMT
What about roullette machines
Report tambhoy5 November 18, 2010 4:54 PM GMT
16/1 shots help yeeha Grin
Report Bill_Payer November 18, 2010 4:58 PM GMT
Roulette machines are fine Harry and much easier if you have a shystem Cool
Report Blades November 18, 2010 5:01 PM GMT
roulette machines? you must be joking! a system with FOBT? you must be crazy!
Report ENGLANDBARNES1 November 18, 2010 5:02 PM GMT
Matt- i could not disagree more!

You need to be able to find value.
Report Blackrock November 18, 2010 5:05 PM GMT
Bill Payer's right. Roulette machines guarantee a profit.
Report Bill_Payer November 18, 2010 5:27 PM GMT
Thx Blackrock. all u need is a good system and discipline.
Report yoyoyi November 18, 2010 5:34 PM GMT
Bill_Payer     Joined: 16 Nov 10
Replies: 61 18 Nov 10 17:27 
Thx Blackrock. all u need is a good system and discipline.


Hi bill_payer

So what this good system and discipline you speak of? care to share?
Report duncan idaho November 18, 2010 5:34 PM GMT
He'll struggle to share discipline imo
Report revedesivola November 18, 2010 5:35 PM GMT
value value value. the price of the horse relative to its chances. its chances need to be worked out to max effectiveness by studying form and taking into account the conditions under which its racing, recent form, recent jock/trainer form,trip, ground conditions etc etc. if its working correctly, you willbe backing horses of varying pries, but generally more short than long priced ones
Report tracksuitdave November 18, 2010 5:37 PM GMT
Well said Reved, you are right.
Report revedesivola November 18, 2010 5:40 PM GMT
alright dave, hows things
Report Stevos November 18, 2010 5:42 PM GMT
Jonjo horse there is no money for = lay
Jonjo horse there is money for = lump

There is one succesful system.
Report revedesivola November 18, 2010 5:45 PM GMT
Ferdy murphy, jonjo o neill and venetia williams horses are all worth staying aay from these days unless u really fancy em
Report tracksuitdave November 18, 2010 5:46 PM GMT
Ok in the end Reved, i was doing a bottle until the bumper race at Thurles, i got 8/1 in running about the winner. Saved my day. And you ?
Report revedesivola November 18, 2010 5:53 PM GMT
that was good dave. didnt back many today dave. slightly up but nothin worth talkin about. eyeing up a few tmrw. should be a busy day for me
Report Bill_Payer November 18, 2010 5:53 PM GMT
Hi Dave WD on TV other day mt.Enjoyed what you had to say and hope there is more in pipeline m8
Report tracksuitdave November 18, 2010 5:54 PM GMT
I have not looked yet, i will be soon.
Report tracksuitdave November 18, 2010 5:55 PM GMT
When you coming over here
Report revedesivola November 18, 2010 5:58 PM GMT
dont know dave tbh. was talking to himself lately and didnt mention anythin. he asked me a few months back and id be stayin with him so am kind of waitin for him to ask again as i dont want o be pushy or nything
Report tracksuitdave November 18, 2010 6:01 PM GMT
ok let me know, would be good to see you in person.
Report revedesivola November 18, 2010 6:11 PM GMT
ok no bothers
Report tracksuitdave November 18, 2010 6:14 PM GMT
I am off now to study, may post latter Reved. Good Luck.
Report Kippers November 18, 2010 6:35 PM GMT
follow PL over the weekend and look out for shock results - always pays
Report duncan idaho November 18, 2010 9:03 PM GMT
PL?
Report kohaku November 18, 2010 9:09 PM GMT
TSD.

IR. Irish. ATR.. bloody hell.  the 3 Card trick.
Report sparrow January 30, 2024 8:54 AM GMT
It cannot be done.
Report Gaze733 January 30, 2024 9:53 AM GMT
that's mug talk sparrow

Step 1: don't be a mug
Step 2: be shrewd
Step 3: profit
Report acey deucy January 30, 2024 9:54 AM GMT
Laugh
Report formoftheace January 30, 2024 10:37 AM GMT
Few ‘big pros’ on here…..
Report impossible123 January 30, 2024 10:48 AM GMT
'Gaze', easier said than done. The bookies do not play by the book ie terms and conditions and not governed by the FCA unlike financial entities in the City Of London. The bookies could sequestrate your funds including any winnings if they so wish without recourse to a legal body. It will take ages (if successful) to access/regain one's money, if so; the BHA are reticent, toothless and ineffective.

The only hope is a new Betting and Gaming Licence to reflect the digital age and fobt. The bookies are vermins with a penchant for easy money - legally or surreptitiously - esp from recreational punters - whenever they deem probable to do so.

Until then tread very cautiously. The
Report tanglefoot January 30, 2024 11:31 AM GMT
Gaze has the golden goose
Report sparrow January 30, 2024 12:02 PM GMT
Gaze knows....Laugh
Report tanglefoot January 30, 2024 12:07 PM GMT
That should be nose,good for sniffing out a profit.
Report Kardman January 30, 2024 12:31 PM GMT
I did actually did this back in the early 1980s. I saved up enough from my salary to allow myself a 2year sabbatical from work to see if I could make it pay.
For most of the first year I tried all sorts of methods but generally lost. It was soul destroying at times. But eventually I found my niche and for the next 18 months I was very successful at it.

My aim was to make more per week than I had been earning in work. I did this comfortably. But here’s the thing -I only bet 2 days per week (Friday & Saturday) and I only bet on 2 races each day. So I was making a good living betting on 4 races per week.

Of course it was a lot easier in them days to avoid getting the knock as I bet in cash (like everybody else) and I spread  it around different bookies, though the shop manager’s soon took an interest in me when I started turning up regularly on a Monday morning to collect my weekend winnings. It will be a lot tougher now betting online.

So, try & find your niche would be my advice and try to bet in such a way that you take as much human emotion as you can out of what you’re doing.
Good Luck if you try it.
Report impossible123 January 30, 2024 1:18 PM GMT
Digital age plus the mindset of present bookies not keen on winners a very tall order esp online where "extraction" of winnings could be a minefield.
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