The shame of British racing

No bets for me and I feel sick.

Agree 100% Muqbil, a new low for British horseracing today...

Gutted for that owner but correct decision

overturned at Portman Square nap

justice in my opinion, francombe shown up there with his comments about cecils horse definitely keepin it

Its right, it's just very sad.

muqbil fair decision imo it was only a sh after all .

agreed the French stewards would never have taken the race of one of thier most popular trainers and given the rase to the English, absolute disgraceful decision

Big Arab owner vs a Black man
sickening

wouldnt av got thrown out in a mid week race
cant believe it appened in a classic

fishing

Thought it was evens each of two ,so cant be surprized.

Gents - every day of the week you see worse instances of interference with the first past the post keeping the race.

justice in my opinion, francombe shown up there with his comments about cecils horse definitely keepin it

Francome is hopeless on these decisions

God there are some idiots! The horse got carried across the track due to the other jockeys whip use!

Leave out out, joshuag.

There are far far worse incidents every day that don't even make it to the stewards room.

they have done that because it was the favourite that was beaten
- it is completely inconsistent with other decision made in those circumstances and a disgrace

It could only happen here the gutless bar stewards

The lack of consistency is appaling

I've seen far worse where the first past the post kept the race. Not possible to second guess them these days...

to anyone that disagrees watch the whole race and see where the inteference is...special duty was crusin past and got hampered.

to anyone that disagrees watch the whole race and see where the inteference is...special duty was crusin past and got hampered.

It was the right decision. Very sad in this case though. Francome looked a bit of a clown too.

^ exactly. Can look forward to 2 reversals a week from now on. Or maybe not

Astonished at you Muqbil, tbh.

I don't follow the sport really anymore, but what has happened to everyone on here saying you have to just about kill another runner to get thrown out?

Its a really sad thing for the connections of Jaquelines Quest. I think it was the right decision and heartbreaking it happens in a Group 1 classic.

What a sad shame the rules are not consistently followed

awful stuff , never stopped the other one riding

Good to see the fancied horse win- punters need a break from these rags.

loper, every day there are worse cases that never make it into the room.

Give the jockey a few days, leave the result would have happened in 9999 out of 10,000 cases.

It's all about the winning distance fawwon. if it's a nose, and you touch the other horse, you're in big trouble. You have to just about kill the other horse if you win by half a length or more though.

It was a pretty straightforward decision, if the rules were to be applied correctly. Just a massive race to have to take it on.

exactly muqbil

if the winner wasnt cecil trained & the 2nd wasnt french,that would have been 1.3 to get the race,people didnt think they would chuck a cecil horse out imo.

Winning distance was key.

The distance was a nose. Was the interference LIKELY to have affected the result.
Answer-Yes.

No, no and thrice, NO!!!

very sad for the owner & henry, but I would have been amazed if she'd kept the race

winner fav it keeps the race,fact.

Agreed book.

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The market indicated it could go both ways, how could it be shameful?

It was 100% interference.

Agree CJ. If it was so shameful a discision, why was it evens both?

the right decision. feel very sorry for the owner. must be one of the saddest races ever run.

Astonished the result was changed--always seems to go in favour of major owners

correct decision all day long!!!! was bumped and it was a nostril in the difference, had to change the decision!

Remember that race at Devon when after the last one horse swerved right across the course taking the other with it,won by a short head.Not reversed and the other horse would have won with a straight run.These stewards have no consistency at all,should completely change the rules so that if this happens on any course and the result is ie a head or less the horse drifting across should be thrown out.

imo the price had a lot to do with the dopes on C4.

Someone with a proper grasp of the rules on there and SD would have been 1.5.

The French took the race off French trained Sagace (Arc) and gave it to Rainbow Quest, so the French DO do these t'ings...another day, another Quest...

Could see both sides here, hardly deserves the forum meltdown.

Precedent firmly set, sadly.

Remember that race at Hamilton that caused much debate on here a couple of seasons ago.

cannot believe overturned having seen replay
shocking

Good memory Vel, indeed they did.

Any interference throw them out fair enough if the rule is applied consistently but it's not. Disgusting

Correct decision but the shame of our racing is that the French can bring 2 horses over and win both classics! If the Irish don't win, the French do. Very sad commentary on our second class racing.

the steward first said it was a difficult decison then 30 secs later he says it wasnt make up ur mind man !!!!

C'mon Sage, that ain't true. We've had some wonderful horses recently, Ravens Pass for instance.

He meant it was difficult to throw out a legend like Henry in favour of the horrid French, not that it was difficult to enforce the rules.

It was difficult because it was a classic and they would prefer not to alter the result, easy because the rules meant the result had to be changed.....

I believe it is pretty consistent since the changes.
A couple of odd calls, one at Sandown with a King horse and a Newmarket sprint with a Williams sprinter.

She can correct this terrible wrong in the Coronation Stakes @ Ascot.....

C'mon Sir Henry get her ready........

CJ, Ravens Pass still got beaten in the Guineas to my cost! We did manage to win the 1000 last year with Ghanaati but when you consider that we are competing on home soil, we should not be sending 50% of our Group 1 prizes overseas year after year.

he must be fired from the job

imo racing's integrity looks all the better after that decision. No home decision and no consideration for the financial implications of the decision. They applied the rules and made the correct decision.

Correct, Stow.

Sage - how has Da Re Mi been doing. Where is it trained and wasn't it thrown through a ridiculous stewards decision?

Arguable decision - but had it been a French race with French horse FPP I doubt it would have been amended. Feel bad for HC/Noel as you regularly see far worse go unpenalised. Consistency the key. I realise I'm dreaming if I think that will ever happen

was the correct decision....i don't think that there is anything in the rules that says "don't reverse the decision if a national treasure is involved.

Not in the English rules ;-)

boring goring kept his race yet this ones throw out?

'had it been a French race'

They may have employed their own rules, perhaps?

It really isn't that difficult. Is it?

Boring Goring,yes what a shocker,says everything.

A correct interpretation of the English rules of racing, but a thoroughly unsatisfactory result, imo, with the best runner on the day losing the race, AND, even worse,
most of the fancied runners in supposedly better draws coming NOWHERE and not even being interfered with by two animals that officially drifted half way across the course!

Something was wrong somewhere, imo.
Did the over-water the far side or what?

Music did best of the fancied on that side , but was lengths behind. Could it have been that, bar the fav, all the fancied runners ran unbelievably badly? Makes you wonder.

Racing for Change? Fking about with silly odds ain't gonna encourage the public to get involved in racing, given that this sort of thing happens in a "Classic".
A very poor course bias ( split groups with one way ahead of the other) or, there should have been an almighty enquiry to explain the poor performances of so many, imo.

And before the usual pillocks on here say it's all the fault of the bookmakers etc, we should remember that the bookies have been hit hard by the revised result.

pasquier should have stayed straight from the stalls...instead of forfeiting plenty of ground to get in behind....would have won by a good distance then.

travesty of a decision from the stewards

As a first time racegoer if you backed the Cecil horse you would be upset cause it was 1st past post. If you backed high drawn horse you were never in the race. We as regulars get used to strange decision and things going against or for you, but if that was your first visit what would you think?

Correct decision. Just because a French horse got it. A lot of racisim on show.

disgusting have seen a lot worse everyday and it never carried winner halfway across track.mind you might be biased has had Cecil filly at 21o to 1 for 4 pounds,but was out so could not cover on stewards inquiry

how did they bet on the inq please?

when i was watching you could have layed the french horse about 2s and backed it back at 2.9 for a trade cecils horse went to about 1.63 if i remember correctly

at one stage on the stewards they were betting 11/10 the french horse and 10/11 cecils

so why the outcry....100 opinions 51 gona be rite ..49 wrong...hardly worthy of an outcry isset..

for my 2 pence worth it was an extremely difficult decision to take for the stewards but in all honesty they had no choice. the winner took 2nd across the track..bumping it on 2 occasions..and beat it by one inch!come on guyz. i didnt bet in the race...but its not worthy of suprise..its pretty cut and dried. i feel our stewards do evrything to let the winner keep a race which i applaud..i hate french and american stewards...to penal.i love henry cecil and im totaly gutted for him...but fairs fair..the right result in my opionion.

British racing is controlled by the big 3 bookmakers and the boys from the middle east................1 got it's way today.......congrats Prince Abdullah.

Rather than blame the stewards. Was it not TQ fault for not changing the whip. He cracked at the horses backside several times and sent the horse over. The horse was struggling to get the trip and was tiring, thats when you need a top jock to stear the ship and earn there money.

Queally did get suspended - 3 days for careless riding - which it was imo - the jump boys do it all the time, just before or immediately after jumping the last hurdle or fence, the tiring leader gets yanked
across the pursuing beast, causing that said beast to check its stride and start again, usually too late to past the post first.

Quite right Lightning. Really annoys me.

everyone knows the correct decision was made....plenty are creatibg though because they wanted the stewards to blatantly ignore the rules because it was the frogs benefiting at the cost of dear old enry

Ask yourself if the same decision would have been taken at catterick / bath or musselburgh

I believe the answer is no , therefore it was the wrong decision.

The thread 3 times the size if the well backed Special Duty had not been given it imo.

gant, havent you forgotten the coolmore mafia, as well

I thought that the horse should keep it. The overall opinion of the Stewards was that it shouldn't. Their opinion counts, mine (and probably yours) doesn't.

sean rua 02 May 16:31

Very fair points re: the bias. Whether due to over watering or whatever, it has potentially cost anyone involved a lot of money being drawn on the wrong side.

what can you expect from a load of pensioners who have never rode a horse and are all on the port from 9am

but the betfair forumites all know better.........who do they ride for.......all jockey had to do was change his whip.........so right decision everytime......

a joke of a decision

cathy gannon got hampered twice in last furlong carried across the track just got beat and no change a couple of weeks ago - wheres the consistancy?

an id bet good money that in that case it did make a difference to the result..

poor all round for a load of reasons - pathetic - a real feel good story becomes a sad story - the best horse past the post 1st end of story - stewards shameful

another**but not suprising money talks