Makfi SP

1 15 Makfi 9-0 C P Lemaire M Delzangles 3 33/1
held up, headway from 2f out, ridden to lead inside final furlong, ran on touched 40/1 £40000-£1200 Each Way £20000-£600 Each Way

11s on tote .........disgrace

was it 11s :^0

^how many elevens? five of 'em would do.

Tote Win: £12.80 Tote Place: £2.80,£6.10,£3.60

IS - I don't think that is accurate. It was definately 50/1 just before the off. I know this because I was tempted and had a small EW with a bookie paying 4 places. I also refreshed the Oddschecker site just before the off and it was all 40/1 and 50/1. It doesn't affect me but I think SP punters have been stitched up. Did anyone notice what the Betfair SP was?

75.-0 Betfair SP

75.49 BSP - http://promo.betfair.com/betfairsp/results.html

Grand National Syndrome ( Welcome to the world of knock ins)

12.80 on the tote!!! if that is true that vile operation needs to be shut down

You would be gutted if you backed it on the tote.

Well the Tote, in fairness, is scrupulously fair. Its a dividend and you know what the pool is as you bet.

All the french bets via PMU are on this horse that s why SP on Makfi felt down suddenly just before the race.

People in France bet on all the french jockeys...

If you haven't realised it the 'big 3' have been manipulating big race SP's for a very long time

Even though earlier prices could be poor value, the SP is even worse

Repollag - oddschecker are extremely slow to update the prices they display

gentlemanjohn 01 May 16:23
12.80 on the tote!!! if that is true that vile operation needs to be shut down

:^0

The place divi was relatively poor also.

I was disappointed to see it had gone off at 33s as the shop had wrote 28s on the slip when I asked when placing the bet earlier. However was delighted to get paid out at the 33s when collecting.

If you were watching c4 you would have noticed a lot of people cheering the winner back into the winners enclosure. A lot of French people were there!
Who do the French bet with?
PMU(Tote).
Therefore its reasonable to understand that they placed a bit of there cash on the Newmarket Tote.

Grey Shot 01 May 16:25


Well the Tote, in fairness, is scrupulously fair. Its a dividend and you know what the pool is as you bet.

yeah if you bet at the last second i would agree. . . . if you dont russki roulette.

Mikewood, I persoanlly dont touch the tote or betting shops with a bargepole. My point about the totoe is that its not blatantly manipulated it is purely market forces.

CAn say that about the Grand national and to some degree today.

At least Dick Turpin wore a mask !!!!!!

Grey Shot - Agree. Newmarket Tote doesn't change SP. From what I saw and the fact bookie laying 50/1 just before off shows SP of 33/1 was not realistic. It should have been at least 40/1.

boys forget it trying to winn money on horses by studying, and all this rptv forget it, its there to have a bit of fun with and def no more, oh i fancy one big time tomo :-) done the studying ;_)

It was all the formbet followers that were cheering him home having ploughed into him

rp advert saturday whills 25-1

so whats the problem