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irish wizard
01 May 10 09:20
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morning keep saying best price 8/1
Pause Switch to Standard View where was the 8/1 on elusive pimp ????
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Report irish wizard May 1, 2010 9:20 AM BST
i know im watching on ch4 plus 1 but the 8s was never there earlier
Report thecount May 1, 2010 9:21 AM BST
sid j
Report johnn May 1, 2010 9:21 AM BST
With Jam Stains for 11.2 seconds.
Report infomaniac May 1, 2010 9:22 AM BST
The idiot Francome says Elusive Pimpernel hated the fast ground in the Craven and Jimbo agrees with him,

when in fact the horse NEEDS fast ground to show his best !
Report knavesmire007 May 1, 2010 9:22 AM BST
probably took a 100 quid each way bet on it early doors so clipped it.
Report knavesmire007 May 1, 2010 9:23 AM BST
I totally agree with them and i was ridiculed for saying so on here last night.
The colt has an awful action.
Report irish wizard May 1, 2010 9:24 AM BST
its 5/1 now........how in gods name where they 8/1
Report infomaniac May 1, 2010 9:31 AM BST
He might have an awful action but that's not the be all and end all FFS, Attraction had terrible action and look what she did after all "experts" ignored her at the sales.

The formbook tells you that he acts better on fast ground.
Report knavesmire007 May 1, 2010 9:33 AM BST
He'll be found out on proper top of the ground in a race of this class.
Report johnn May 1, 2010 9:33 AM BST
Info is the MAN IN THE NO IMO.
Report knavesmire007 May 1, 2010 9:37 AM BST
It's best performance was at donny.
Report infomaniac May 1, 2010 9:39 AM BST
If it was fast ground at Donny, he would've beaten St Nicholas Abbey,

and I'd backed SNA that day BECAUSE of soft ground.
Report knavesmire007 May 1, 2010 9:43 AM BST
it was good going at donny....and goodish going in the craven.
The Racing Post time was 1.12 secs slower than standard
Craven was 1.36 secs slower than standard.
Do you really think the goings were spot on?
These colts dont run as fast on good to soft as they do on good to firm.
Report infomaniac May 1, 2010 9:46 AM BST
The going may have been reported as good at Doncaster but it definitely should have had soft somewhere in the description.
Report knavesmire007 May 1, 2010 9:47 AM BST
it was reported as good to soft but 2 year olds cant run 1.12 secs within standard on soft going,as you described it.
Report infomaniac May 1, 2010 9:50 AM BST
You can't just take the final time of the race at face value and then compare it to another race run at a different track with different runners etc !
Report knavesmire007 May 1, 2010 9:50 AM BST
yes you can.thats what standard times are for.
Report infomaniac May 1, 2010 9:53 AM BST
OK, good luck with that project,

I'll come on and apologize of Elusive Pimpernel performs badly.
Report knavesmire007 May 1, 2010 9:53 AM BST
just watch Elusive struggle in thedip.see ya later.
Report knavesmire007 May 1, 2010 9:54 AM BST
no need to apologise at all,its no probs.Just apologise to Francome for calling him an idiot win or lose.
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY May 1, 2010 10:08 AM BST
Info, U dont think SNA will go wellon quick ground then?
Report infomaniac May 1, 2010 10:10 AM BST
I really like the horse and backed it on all 3 starts last year but he seems well suited to some give,

if the rains come, the race will be his to lose but if it remains fast, I think it'll be any one of 5 or 6 that can win it !
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY May 1, 2010 10:17 AM BST
Fair Enough, Not sure just how quick the ground will be today, there has been om overnight rain in Suffolk & essex this week and some quite heavy, didnt hear any last night and havent seen the wether forcast, however I think Sir Nic will enjoy the ground anyhow, the beresford being the quickest ground he has encountered is true group 1 form and the RP trophy form is much stronger then the dewhurst form. If he has trainned on then I think those in the know will be lumping on the horse and could see him go odds on, this is a poor guineas in terms of strength & depth this year imo.

Being by Montjeu u would think cut is needed, but to my eye his action will be fine on spring ground this quick
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