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yeah id say the dewhurst win end up being better form!!steinbeck did travel like the best horse tho!!!just its hard to ignore ELUSIVE P form at course and style of victory lto!!moore aint on board tho, i kno ahern usually rides and is a good jockey in his own right but id rather ryan myself!!stall 1 too, not ideal!!
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has an awful action.Can see it veering badly,changing legs and losing action in the dip if the going is proper top of the ground.
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Diamond
What do you think of its action? and the way it handled the dip last out? |
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youll learn that the craven isnt a great guineas trial.
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well diamond?....you cant just say "lol" without anything to back it up.
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Go away for 5 years and learn to stop thinking you have the game by the b0llox and that everyone who has a different outlook should be barked down.
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I am bringing something to the table here,its obviously going over your head win only.
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I want to know where this "Turn of foot " that will get him out of trouble from draw one is
Backers praying they go up the middle |
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here we go again, belittling people. Arrogant little man
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agree zil, shocking berth.
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win only
you started it all mate. I just came on and said i wouldnt like its awful action on PROPER TOP in the dip. Whats wrong with that?. |
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All i can go on now is the sight of it winning the racing post , didnt even look to be trying and sailed past decent animals , magnificent sight , cant back against that .
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knavemire, can you explain how ground decribed as good to firm, with a going stick assesment of 8.7 was not good to firm please. and also how 2morrows ground can be anything but a tiny fraction quicker.
just bringing that to the table old son (again as you failed to respond before) |
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AOB has this race sewn up.
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" knavemire, can you explain how ground decribed as good to firm, with a going stick assesment of 8.7 was not good to firm please. and also how 2morrows ground can be anything but a tiny fraction quicker."
I already explained. Scroll back. |
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" The winning times of the racing post and the craven were similar yet one on good to soft n one on good to firm,therefore seems like both goings were good or thereabouts.."
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still cant see it, illustrious master.
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pmsl, and you want me to go and learn.
deary me |
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wont be posting here again,its full of betting shop types.No idea most of ya.
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win only
I make a living from betting.What do you do? |
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so it was good to soft at newmarket was it?
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Good to soft??? you muppet..i said is was goodish...you are useless.
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Knaves what you think about Fencing Master i think this could cause a shock.
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Arrogant arrogant arrogant
"im a pro punter so I know everything about racing" I will stop conversing with you, as you will end up being unable to talk from that far up your own @rse |
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Fencing master ran good in dewhurst and is trained by AOB...what else do you want?
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I know a lot about racing,so much that i know its a mugs game.
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lol for someone who makes money out of gambling good analysis not money**intree could of said that what a let down, and i serious about it running a good race.
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georgy gee
Cant understand you |
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the draw might beat him, and a muddling pace might beat him, but the notion that his "awful action" will beat him is total bllox
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Well ive had a bottle of vodka, but i was asking you a serious question cos i thought u might have something useful to say, obviously not.
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Cross out every colt not trained by godolphin,AOB or Stoute....thats for starters.
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The Dewhurst is miles behind the racingpost trophey it would seem as Buzzwood ran very close in the dewhurst yet is 100-1 for this tomorrow and Frankie wont have got it majorlywrong in his choice as he keeps faith with the 3rd in the racingpost trophey, I agree the dewhurst usually is a proper test for a 2yo and should be followed, but I think last years dewhurst was a poor affair and O'Brien used it as his own little trail to see if it brought anything out of his youngsters. SNA was always the number 1 there. O'Brien had 3 of the first 4 home in the dewhurst, think Johnny knows what he has underneath him and what he can beat with his mount. I discounnted the Dewhurst form & wouldnt suprise me if the first 3 home was the racingpost trophey first 3.
Craven had aload of trees in the race hence why EP was 10/11 to land the race and truly obliged, his action does suggest that a real top of the ground race where the horse needs to be balanced can cause a problem, however there has been rain this week and quite heavy at times, mainly dry though and the large open space with the wind will mean it wont be soft, but It certainly wont be rattling fast and EP backers shouldnt worry to much about the action tomorrow,the draw and race position is something that would concern me, however by the time EP can get into position SNA will have flown like Gorgoeus George had and taken a few lengths out of the field, Time of Craven wasnt brilliant, it wasnt genuine quick ground but wasnt terriable and EP had a nice tril against trees. The mark Johnston horse could be intereasting but is likely to hang away its chances and u dont win a guineas by hanging left under pressure and he will meet pressure at some point. Red Jazz won stay, Canford Cliffs has pace to burn andwill tackle the july cup imo. The french horse dont know anything about!!!!!!!!!! The Fav if he has trainned on, could have one of the easiest guineas field to conquor in the last 10yrs it looks like |
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knavesmire007 30 Apr 23:32
everone watch its last run in the craven and watch its suspect action. This so called suspect action is similar to that of a stupidly powerfull motorbike under acceleration, the back end is going so fast the front can hardly stay on the ground. As for the chap who says "he doesnt get it done quick enough" i sincerely hope that was tongue in cheek. All in. |
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See - back end and front end- propper horseman me
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My bet will be Fencing Master each way.Has the right credentials.
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Coolmore invest heavily...they need to win these races,whatever it takes ;)
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You copying me now?
just cos i knar. |
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It doesnt matter cos Brian Meehans black and white army will win the 4 o clock .
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Hey george....ran big race in the 2 year old 2000 guineas...and has AOB as his trainer..its a great bet.
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knavesmire007 01 May 00:08
Cross out every colt not trained by godolphin,AOB or Stoute....thats for starters. ridiculous statement!! al zir wont reverse form with EP and if he can, then theres no reason EP camt on nich abbey!!stoute doesnt even have a runner and godolphin arent exactly raking in the classics over the last few years!!open race, many with chances!! |