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Fencing might play the rockofgibraltar role and the fave the hawk wing role and re enact the great guineas of about 7 years ago.
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Hes a pro tho ilwab ;)
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8 years ago :_|
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8 years ago...seems like yesterday.I bet the rock that day.
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fav solid for me
too short to back heavily too good to oppose 7lb well in on timeform |
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8 yrs ago i was only 6
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Dont let the price of St Nicholas Abbey put u guys off, if u fancy it, try to obtain the best price, if you watch the RP trophy run again, just watch how quickly the race is settled, now u Might think EP has adapted a turn of foot, but turn of foots can be beause the field wasnt travelling as quick and to my eye EP briefly took longer then I would have expected to quicken in the craven, SNA did quicken and did it in emphatic style and given the level of the 2yo form last season SNA is way out in front, reason y people will go agst it is more down to greed because of the price, it does look short because of the fact it is a group 1 AND u expect them to be competitive, yet the reality is that this wont be the strongest 3yo race over a mile this season not by a distance.
in short SNA quickened and settled the best 2yo race last season in a matter of seconds, trainned on confirms form and I wouldnt be suprised if he touched odds on tomorow,, its like having a group horse in a handicap, like denman in the Hennessy!!! |
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Good luck Tony, he looked brilliant at Doncaster that's for certain but I ain't got an ante post price, and each to their own and all that but I'd rather have my testes removed with a pair of pliers than back one at just over evens to win the Guineas first time out.
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Fencing Master lost ground at the start in the dewhurst,ran like a real amateur,gave them 5 lengths startr.Should improve a lot for that run .
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i like fencing master myself and if hes fit enough to do himself justice, he has a nice draw, id say he'll sit close to the pace and may just have the progress in him to beat this lot!!RP trophy does look strong and of course nich has a favourites chance but the fact is his pedigree is against him and will be facing ground he has never run on before !!yes he may even improve for the better ground, but what if he DOESNT?if youre willing to take the price then good for u, hope he runs well well but i'll oppose!i also felt his beresford was his least impressive run to date and that was on good (i think)!!wasnt asked much granted but wasnt cantering either!!he's very beatable tomorrow imo!!
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Fencing master was an amateurin the dewhurst.lost many lengths early and had to make up the ground.
He shud improve a lot on that. |
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look where it was after 2 furlongs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl2_dyvxLdw |
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St Nicholas Abbey got out of jail in the beresford stakes as he was coltish and still learning his game and wouldnt be the first horse to have trouble overcoming a keyed up mark Johnston battler before getting on top and then finishing of his race in comfortable fashion, the form of that race is solid as well as the 2nd ran well for a long way in a group 1 before not stayin the trip and the 3rd who was a eye catcher staying on well in the beresford went on to land the Criterium De Saint-cloud by 6L and is highly thought off by the boys in blue. The runner up in that race ran well in the Ballysax stakes race and wasnt disgraced and sent off at 11/10 for the group 3 race. Bookies are using that as strong form imo. It wasnt a weak Beresford and SNA won it well enough on good ground imo.
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Looked more outpaced fencing master imo, looks a Derby horse and culd well continue the trend off runner ups staying on behind the clear cut winner and landing the epsom show piece
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SNA action and jus watched the Beresford form again and once the jock had got his head he settled it, the ground if quick will suit him,it was a easy win
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looked green to me as it did to its jockey Colm O'd
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is this thread still goin. :0 a lot of opinions.but there can only be one winner.u decide.
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i have 125 on elusive pimpernel to be placed. it will get the trip . it has trained on . it should get a clear run. i am happy with a hungry jock instead of frank for instance.funny action but the bit of juice in the ground should help. last time i had such a big bet on the place market was katchit in the champion hurdle and he won it at 10/1. i did not have a bean on him in the win market. same here with elusive .can see him placing but not winning
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Nice e/w but no chance of reversing form with the favourite.
Favourite too powerful turn of foot. |
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Why is Sir Michael not having a runner? Either his best 3yo miler is not ready or he knows that nothing can threaten St Nick.
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the latter
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only worry with EP is if it hits a flat spot mid race. think fav will **** in , but this one could stay on at end
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Big fan but cant see how it beats the fav
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