finally real LIVE PICTURES .

On course players [b]SEETHING[/b]

SEETHING I tells ya SEETHING

I WONDER WHAT RACECOURSES WILL DO NOW .sorry about caps lock got carried away :)

i like

workrider fishing or plain stupid, i'll go for B

Betfair Customer Services 30 Apr 11:08
We are pleased to announce that the ATR races are now streamed in flash format, which provides better picture quality and is now much faster as it is delivered with a similar delay to the TV pictures.

Other additions

We've also added the Hi/Lo bit rate buttons, which will also benefit the user experience.

In addition, Betfair is now able to stream events to our Australian customers, and we will be doing so across a wide number of sports worldwide where we have the rights to do so. Unfortunately ATR coverage of UK and Irish racing still cannot be streamed to our Australian customers.

as fast as atr on sky will be a great help

well sayed, heynoodles

Presumably, if they can get ATR pictures to a PC as fast or slightly quicker than a Sky dish, there is scope in the future for streaming clean feeds from racecourses?

er.. why? nobody is going to play i/r so why bovver? its only for people to watch the racing. 'speed' irrelevant.

pleasing news

one day it will be so quick, the market will be ahead of the pictures :^0

heynoodles shown your class again ysdc :^0

it was in flash on b365 yesterday - was running about 10 secs quicker than the windows media pics elsewhere. You're still nuts if u think u can realistically compete with on-course though.

Going forward, the best chance of home punters getting close-to-live pictures is obviously through Flash streaming so, while this particular development will mean little, it is positive that they are investing in this technology.

agree a bit dissie , at least they realised that they were killing the golden goose ,people on here betting in running sometimes4 to 5 sec behind .

I noticed the aus stream was just a fraction of a second behind ruk and atr but of course limited by what they do, lets hope its a step in the right direction but dark forces in our sport will alwyas keep it in the dark ages

Defintely a move in the right direction but if the pics come from ATR arent they sure to remain slow for a while yet? ATR tracks signed long term deals isnt it, so if bf has to go through atr they cant get the pics live from the tracks?


Plus so many vested interests, yer man at Leicester brags of making more from in running players than the on course bookies?

windowlicker 30 Apr 12:41


I WONDER WHAT RACECOURSES WILL DO NOW


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with levy falling year apon year its a pity there isnt one 'proper' racing journalist out there that can take this up and point out that racing is losing levy and punter interest by this situation

"similar delay to the TV pictures"

changes nowt imo

The point abd makes is the one thing to take from this development imo. Who is not to say that bf could barter a deal in the near future to provide the feeds simply badged with the atr logos etc. Whatever way it is looked at, it certainly aint a retrograde step.

Muqbil is correct. Furthermore a fast inernet stream will be faster than satellite.

same as atr in fact prob 0.1 quicker

massively improved - and only 1 sec behind SIS

agree with hull

very good news for the I/R boys, impossible b4

GO BF GO. Kept this 1 quiet but real progress. Thanks for the timings regards SIS.

Shame the sound doesnt work :(

Just timed it against SIS, about 1.5 seconds behind.

It depends if there is any real will to sort it out. As noodles said, plenty of these tracks are happy with the situation, the track players need no entertaining and provide a lumpy extra income. It would need Betfair to be particularly pro-active in sourcing clean feeds as part of their existing package - perfectly possible, of course, but you suspect highly unlikely.

http://www.skychannel.com.au/

the feed on the above channel for the aussie races through the night are a good couple of seconds ahead of atr.

problem is...trying to bet i/r whilst viewing on your pc and then placing your bets on your pc for me at least would get me into a bit of a tangle and would negate things.....get the bloody race channels up to live is the only way to sort it out once and for all.

Not difficult to get an internet feed coming out through a telly or separate monitor, duffy. You sound like my old man!

lol.....fair enough....anyway whats going on here....trying to watch it to see how "live" it is....and the first race at doncaster comes up to place a bet on lol

must be a fishing thread.....or just plain misleading......it's still behind 415....all a big fuss about nothing.....the winner was 2.1 coming round the home turn there!!!

lol

Can't watch BF Live video at DONCASTER today as they seem to have got todays links wrong, All linked up to tommorows races lol...

lingfield was behind channel 415...so its a false dawn anyhow

everyone knows its on 10e today

duffy i checked the 3rd race and can gaurantee the betfair feed was faster than c415, the difference was minimal so not of any benfit to me but it is incorrect to say it is slower than c415(unless it varies race by race)

rome tennis is fractionally ahead of sky sp

must vary by race then because that last race at doncaster was about 1 sec behind atr

mst
i watched the 2nd at lingfield and it was marginally behind atr.....what is misleading is the title of this thread...which ever way you cut it.

jamesdean 30 Apr 15:11


must vary by race then because that last race at doncaster was about 1 sec behind atr

ok fair enough it was the 3rd race at ling i watched would say it was 1/5 th second ahead of ATR, but probably inconsistency would explain where duffy was coming from

betfairs announcement telling us it is now much faster than before is like stating that a bloke on crutches is much faster than a one legged man lol....until the channels are live...there's nothing to get excited about.

Not difficult to get an internet feed coming out through a telly or separate monitor, duffy. You sound like my old man!
Yes but you need 2 pc.

plus its not worth the effort as you can watch the same sllooowww pictures on 415 already.

"place a bet to watch live racing feed in flash format which is slightly ahead (below 1 second) of the ATR LIVE pictures"

DUffy ,I totally agree . This new feed is an improvement , but of no use to people who have access to Atr on tv . But to people who have no access , it is a God send .

tutan
yes but they must not assume that the pictures are in anyway live...betfairs announcement has a slightly trumpet fanfare about it...which is misleading....much faster yes...but still miles adrift.

Do people on here still naievely believe that it is in any way a postive move for atr and its associated companies to speed up the pictures.

.

As for the suggestion that people were backing in running using bf's internet atr feed,well how can the parents of these people let them out alone.

Surely the revenues from the in running prem charge should go to an adult education foundation.
.

Duffy .
I have read the statement word for word , all they are saying the stream is the same as Atr nothing else . It is the fault of the composer of this thread , that has mislead everyone .Very badly worded thread .

I have just watched the 15:35 Doncaster using the Betfair pictures.Anyone attempting to use these for in running should wait for the men in white coats.Pictures are fine IF no other source is available but to say that they can be used for in running then you might as well give their money away.

great quality pics tho... lets hope it does lead to something

agree tutan
they won't be taking it down though will they ;-)

What am I missing here? When I click on the race it tells me coverage will start just before the off - but then it doesn't. And yes, I have had a bet.

click off it and click back on just before the race starts....don't think it takes you to it once it comes on if you're already there waiting....sort of!!!

Ok, let's try that.

just spoke to my brother in Bristol and he thinks it 3 seconds ahead of his Virgin Cable ATR

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Why can't I dowload it?

everything is about a day ahead of cable

stew b,you either must allow downloads on your browser,or allow adobe internet right for updates.

Thanks for that Harv, however I'm non the wiser due to be being PC clueless. I'll phone my computer expert at BF next week. Once again, thanks all the same.

on int exp go toolsinternet optionssecurity mouse down to enable downloads tick boxes ok
refresh the bf page and then download adobe.

i'm assuming you ticked the acceptance of adobes licence agreement.

cant post the littlle arrow sign between the words.

btw Harv, I only had one bet today, frankie in the 3.55 ling. Thought I was home and hosed. Only one bet until a week tomorrow, Awzaan in the 2000. Backed it at various odds. Still a big price imvho....

I'm on firefox Harv, (if that makes any sense?) as I say I'll get the chap to talk me through it next week. Thanks again.

alternatively you can use windows media player.

I WANT THE FOOTBALL PICTURES FAST ,SO I CAN SING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AT THE SAME TIME AS THE PLAYERS

Kappelhoff cant lose tonight!

Kappelhoff?? Where's that beast running?

Do wah...are you gonna sea Glen Campbell at the Lowry?

SOFEE NO ,IVE NOT ENOUGH FOR THE BUS FARE NEVER MIND THE TICKETS,I WOULD HACE LIKED TO SEE PETULA CLARK A FEW WEEKS AGO

I USED TO GO TO CONCERTS AND LOADS OF THEATRE SHOWS WHEN I HAD MONEY

didnt realise things were quite so bad :(

I get my picture and my internet through the same cable and Betfair's ATR picture is quicker than my Virgin Tv ATR picture.

Is faster than the atr on my tv by 1sec at least :0 :0

Not jokin either

How does net compare to SIS please?

BJG

are you watching atr through sky or cable ?

Sky

I get my TV picture and my internet through the same cable.

Is what i meant to say.

Cable :|

With chorus ntl, they're cable i presume :|

if its 1 sec ahead of atr sky then its under a sec behind SIS

It's only faster (significantly at least) on cable, not sky.

yep think ntl are cable, still cant complain its a step in the right direction

MST did ya play the 5.35 Mussel' ?

about time i have WM and IE