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27 Apr 10
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I appreciate there's a time delay, but where is the longest delay?
Betfair website, TV, bookies feeds, AN Other?
Betfair website, TV, bookies feeds, AN Other?
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The replay the next morning is probably the longest delay imvho
Saw a bloke in back of satellite truck at yarmouth on his lappy with BF on screen.............nost b a stard imo ;)
Best place is Exchange shop or bookie. That way you aren't quickest but get to see all the racing with a reasonable 1.5 sec delay. Up against you are peo[ple on course and those watching raw feeds on sat and net. As long as you know where you stand you can bet safely.
the shortest time delay is on the course.
but you have to elbow your way in ..there are at least fifty in position on van roofs to stepladders in the best vantage points.
but you have to elbow your way in ..there are at least fifty in position on van roofs to stepladders in the best vantage points.
Very good piece of advice from Mr TAXI himself ;)
If you take in-running seriously you have to have the right gear for the
job.
Make sure you have Broadband - dialup is a waste of time.
Liquidity is the most important thing in-running so use the Betfair
exchange.
Try and have another PC so that you have a backup.
Have 2 TVs - 14" is fine - I find CRT has better pics, although they are
bulky compared to LCD/TFT.
Use "one-click" software. This enables you to preset odds to both back and
lay, as well as overriding any odds that are set in Betfair. As the name
suggests you only need click to click once to enable your bet. Some of these
are standalone and don't even require you to have the Betfair site open in
your browser.
If you are new to in-running concentrate on either backing or laying - it is
very difficult (at least for me) to think of both during a race.
Betfair auto-refreshes its prices every 30 seconds, which is hopeless for
in-running. There are some standalone apps that can change this, while all
one-click programs have it built in. Experiment with this and get it as low
as possible without crashing your PC.
Preparation is key - in the heat of battle it is too easy to make a mistake.
I only buy the Racing Post (or, hopefully, the Sportsman - whichever is
cheaper) for the horses' colours. I no longer read any articles in it and
don't even take any notice of the prices. I then cut each race out
separately and mark them up with my own shorthand. I mark up such things as
nosebands, blazes, blinkers, cheekpieces, greys etc. I also circle the
"well-known" colours. When it gets near to the race I even mark up the order
that the first few in the betting appear on the Betfair list. Betfair now
has an option to view the horses' colours next to their names but I will
never use this until they develop a way of marking the screen.
If JP or Nigel Shields have several in the race make sure you check the
colours of their caps - this will save a lot of anguish as happened when
Richard Hills wore a different cap for Sheikh Hamdam than was shown in the
paper.
Never, EVER, take the commentator's word for anything unless you see it
yourself - you might miss a few bets but it will save your sanity (as well
as a potential big loss) when they get it wrong.
If you are using the Betfair site don't forget you have the option to change
the colour of the lay side which might help you make fewer mistakes.
If the same race is shown on CH4 and Sky please make sure you play
in-running using the Sky version as some of us need to earn a crust.
Don't forget that you can also bet on photo finishes. Wait until you see a
still picture before you make your own mind up and even then make sure it is
on the line - totally ignore the presenters as some of them are worse than
useless with photos. Remember that you are betting on the official result,
not the photo so that, if the "winner" is thrown out you lose. You could
even lose if you get it right if the judge is on a different planet when
looking at the photo.
Complacency - it is sometimes easy to have very long winning streaks and
think you are superhuman so you start clicking earlier than you should. This
happened to someone on the BF forum and he lost £60K on one race in
December - disaster for him and a nice Christmas present for another.
Cheers,
G-Man
If you take in-running seriously you have to have the right gear for the
job.
Make sure you have Broadband - dialup is a waste of time.
Liquidity is the most important thing in-running so use the Betfair
exchange.
Try and have another PC so that you have a backup.
Have 2 TVs - 14" is fine - I find CRT has better pics, although they are
bulky compared to LCD/TFT.
Use "one-click" software. This enables you to preset odds to both back and
lay, as well as overriding any odds that are set in Betfair. As the name
suggests you only need click to click once to enable your bet. Some of these
are standalone and don't even require you to have the Betfair site open in
your browser.
If you are new to in-running concentrate on either backing or laying - it is
very difficult (at least for me) to think of both during a race.
Betfair auto-refreshes its prices every 30 seconds, which is hopeless for
in-running. There are some standalone apps that can change this, while all
one-click programs have it built in. Experiment with this and get it as low
as possible without crashing your PC.
Preparation is key - in the heat of battle it is too easy to make a mistake.
I only buy the Racing Post (or, hopefully, the Sportsman - whichever is
cheaper) for the horses' colours. I no longer read any articles in it and
don't even take any notice of the prices. I then cut each race out
separately and mark them up with my own shorthand. I mark up such things as
nosebands, blazes, blinkers, cheekpieces, greys etc. I also circle the
"well-known" colours. When it gets near to the race I even mark up the order
that the first few in the betting appear on the Betfair list. Betfair now
has an option to view the horses' colours next to their names but I will
never use this until they develop a way of marking the screen.
If JP or Nigel Shields have several in the race make sure you check the
colours of their caps - this will save a lot of anguish as happened when
Richard Hills wore a different cap for Sheikh Hamdam than was shown in the
paper.
Never, EVER, take the commentator's word for anything unless you see it
yourself - you might miss a few bets but it will save your sanity (as well
as a potential big loss) when they get it wrong.
If you are using the Betfair site don't forget you have the option to change
the colour of the lay side which might help you make fewer mistakes.
If the same race is shown on CH4 and Sky please make sure you play
in-running using the Sky version as some of us need to earn a crust.
Don't forget that you can also bet on photo finishes. Wait until you see a
still picture before you make your own mind up and even then make sure it is
on the line - totally ignore the presenters as some of them are worse than
useless with photos. Remember that you are betting on the official result,
not the photo so that, if the "winner" is thrown out you lose. You could
even lose if you get it right if the judge is on a different planet when
looking at the photo.
Complacency - it is sometimes easy to have very long winning streaks and
think you are superhuman so you start clicking earlier than you should. This
happened to someone on the BF forum and he lost £60K on one race in
December - disaster for him and a nice Christmas present for another.
Cheers,
G-Man
How can you bet in running on the course at the track ?
1. Racecourses don't allow you to take laptops in
2. You'd have to use one of those USB internet connections which are really slow.
1. Racecourses don't allow you to take laptops in
2. You'd have to use one of those USB internet connections which are really slow.
at the racecourse. probably need an account without the usual 3 secs delay too. else asking to be robbed. gl
Essential tools for on-course trading:
"Betfair Rapid" account set at fastest speed (200 m/secs), revises 5 times a second. Set to single click back or lay, you pre-determine your stake from £2 to whatever.....
"Iphone" or similar application displaying Betfair Rapid page.
Must use a stylus to make selections, fingers are too large to correctly make bets.
Can be dangerous in single click mode, you need to practice using small stakes before advancing to the 3 figure plus sums to bet & lay.
Remember once you have committed yourself there is no going back !!!
"Betfair Rapid" account set at fastest speed (200 m/secs), revises 5 times a second. Set to single click back or lay, you pre-determine your stake from £2 to whatever.....
"Iphone" or similar application displaying Betfair Rapid page.
Must use a stylus to make selections, fingers are too large to correctly make bets.
Can be dangerous in single click mode, you need to practice using small stakes before advancing to the 3 figure plus sums to bet & lay.
Remember once you have committed yourself there is no going back !!!
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