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sparta 012
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Last 12 months been an absolute nightmare
unfair sacking in 23 year job due to job cuts

lose car

wife has baby number 5 been me been 44 yrs old came as a big shock

only just holding onto house

worked 24/7 for last 16 years

now become an house husband

cheers gordon (yOu MoRoN)

just need 1 big win on a lucky 15

your tips would be welcome but not today as i have no money to bet with
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Report Johnny Wad April 23, 2010 3:06 PM BST
my advice for what it's worth is as follows.

do your own research pick your own selections it's far more satisfying. You're obviously starting with a small bank so aim to win 5% each day, if you start with £20 then in a month you'll about £100. then just kick on from there.

Put the effort in and you'll get the reward. With a some effort you could soon have a bank that it enough to generate a reasonable tax free income
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 3:06 PM BST
thanks splicer let me know what it is ill take as my 1st horse on tomorrows lucky 15
3 to go
Report Wedged April 23, 2010 3:07 PM BST
Why are you fuucking about on here with BIG BETS when you are struggling to feed 5 kids and pay the mortgage whilst unemployed?

Work that out.
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 3:08 PM BST
i want 1 big win johnny acca part of a lucky will give me that
i have done it before a lot of times but not big stakes
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 3:09 PM BST
do i need your permission to fook about on here , im over 18 come on here because your all the friends ive got
Report disicipline=£££££££££££££sssss April 23, 2010 3:10 PM BST
If you have a bad cough, take a large dose of laxatives, then you will be afraid to cough.
Report dustybin April 23, 2010 3:10 PM BST
stop betting

go to night school

hope this helps
Report Cezman April 23, 2010 3:11 PM BST
1 big win is unlikely imo, all the pressure on this, build ur bank slowly is my best advice, have been doing so for last month or so done very well
Report Wedged April 23, 2010 3:12 PM BST
Chat away on here whilst doing job searches, fine, but don't bet. Sometimes we have to be cruel to be kind! STOP BETTING!
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 3:12 PM BST
im a skilled worker dusty why do i want to go back to night school there are no jobs in the construction industry yet
Report Charlie Big Potatoes April 23, 2010 3:13 PM BST
Cezman :^0 thats just what he needs to hearthat you are doing wel......





Well dun fella....your won picks or do you follow anyone on hear IYOl
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 3:14 PM BST
bet all my life wedged more of an hobby which i enjoy
Report big balls April 23, 2010 3:14 PM BST
get down the job centre and find a job ..
Report tutan April 23, 2010 3:15 PM BST
Please explain , where you sacked or were you made redundant after 23 years . If your made redundant , you are entitled to redundancy .
Report koikeeper April 23, 2010 3:15 PM BST
sparta 012

What jpob do you do?
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 3:16 PM BST
best lucky 15 i had up, i dont think most of you thought was possible

3/1

11/1

12/1

16/1 all won
Report dustybin April 23, 2010 3:16 PM BST
sparta I wasnt to know your work area, but I was implying that if there isnt any ops where your at, change or find other ops (that aint pretentious)

and the betting is a purge of the lower classes, if you dont have the money then dont do it imo
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 3:18 PM BST
tutan
i was unfairly dismissed and i didnt get a fair hearing or investigation and i was poorly represented by my union
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 3:19 PM BST
i gotta go kids home washing up needs doing before wife gets home , or i am in big bother
TBC
Report Cezman April 23, 2010 3:20 PM BST
charlie big potatoes

i kno little about horse racing, but i gather a lot of information from tips on here, anythin i can get my hands on and then make a decision to go for it or not, working at the mo! lets hope it lasts!
Report tutan April 23, 2010 3:27 PM BST
My advice to earn a few extra pounds , and a very simple way to start making money . If you have local wholesalers around you , who do SMALL items for sale . I would trawl the big auction site and see what you could sell ,concentrate on small light items . You will be surprised when the orders come in . I know many who are now earning a tidy sum of money ,but you need time on your hands to do this . Around 200 would be a start . Goods are very cheap to buy at the moment .If you have a ability for taking good pictures and a can write a good presentation on the product ,you will be half way there . Anyway good luck .
Report dustybin April 23, 2010 3:30 PM BST
tutan

you del boy?
Report tutan April 23, 2010 3:30 PM BST
I am sorry you missed out on a Huge Lump of redundancy money after 23 years . Did the union not compensate you in any way . They have a huge slush fund in cases like this .
Report tutan April 23, 2010 3:34 PM BST
Dusty , it is a very good way to set up a small business . Which was never around before auction site invented .No shop rent or rates and a small outlay needed , but requires a lot of time and patience .
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 3:35 PM BST
UNITE union let me down
i have a friend in RAILWAY UNION who is working on appeal
Report bazzar April 23, 2010 3:36 PM BST
Skint bookie, Mcririck.
Report koikeeper April 23, 2010 3:36 PM BST
What job do you do???
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 3:37 PM BST
joiner come locksmith
Report koikeeper April 23, 2010 3:38 PM BST
Buliding industry jobs hard to come by these days, good luck.
Report efisio. April 23, 2010 3:40 PM BST
Have you got a dog?
Report tutan April 23, 2010 3:45 PM BST
Sparta , I a very glad they are appealing . There is a huge injustice here without knowing every piece of information . I do not care why they sacked you (unless the police were called in your sacking ) .You have human rights for that redundancy money after 23 year and any sane Judge would award you something in mitigation . Good Luck .
Report Splicer Keats April 23, 2010 3:49 PM BST
Fairoak Lad, leg one of the feed the kids lucky 15, hth, :)
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 4:08 PM BST
tutan
i was dismissed unfairly because a bully gaffer concocted a story with another gaffer that a became aggressive when they say i failed to carry out a reasonable instruction which me been the professional deemed it unreasonable for the safety of the tenant of the property which caused an argument and in him sending me home . i had the tenant as a witness who failed to get interviewed who gave a different account the 2 managers gave to my union who also failed to bring him as a witness.
to top it all i had pre tribunal hearing to see if i coul get a tribunal but both judge and defending solicitor both worked for the local authority and struck me off because of an argument with 1 gaffer which wasnt 1 of the charges and she deemed the instruction was a reasonable 1, what chance did i have.
so yes i think the system stinks
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 4:09 PM BST
cheers slicer 3 to go
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 4:09 PM BST
splicer - sorry for the spelling
Report hearts1874 April 23, 2010 4:18 PM BST
some 1 offer him a job!!!!
Report denkat123 April 23, 2010 4:23 PM BST
Night In Milan 5.20 Perth wont lose i know the trainer.Try to get 5-1! GL
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 4:42 PM BST
denkat123
hope it wins for you i appreciate it but i am going to try to get 4 for tomorrow good luck
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 5:07 PM BST
efisio why do you need to know if i have a dog?
i have a feeling this will be funny
Report denkat123 April 23, 2010 5:09 PM BST
ok 4.15 sandown tmoz tranquil tiger at bout 9/2.Will put a very good showing.GL
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 5:50 PM BST
cheers denkat will have a look tomorrow, unlucky with the gamble on night in milan
Report Cezman April 23, 2010 5:53 PM BST
ignore denkat that 5.20 tip was awful came 5th i think 2 fell aswell
Report grahamwestleyisthemessiah April 23, 2010 5:58 PM BST
Read the "last night my boss thread" that crops up now and again on chitchat and see if you can do the same thing if you get some work. It might cost you your a rse but beggars cant be choosers, right?
Report KMxRetrostar April 23, 2010 6:03 PM BST
"hope it wins for you i appreciate it but i am going to try to get 4 for tomorrow good luck"

So what, you don't like money or something? I know it lost, but you ask for tips, get one, and then turn it down because you meant you wanted them tomorrow.

"I didn't follow the bosses orders and got fired. It was unfair. Please give me tips. Not that one."

Bit picky, IMO.

Still, if a £500 a week building job doesn't appear, maybe take a job as a cleaner, shelf stacker or ANYTHING ELSE until one does. "No jobs" = "No jobs that I am prepared to do" in 90% of cases, you'll find. Either that, or go on the social like most people with 5 kids seem to do. Another 4 and you'll get £42,000 a year in benefits and a 7-bed house for free!

Or, stop fishing.
Report sparta 012 April 23, 2010 6:29 PM BST
retrostar there wasnt the bosses orders u tool you wasnt there so how can you decide my fate
im not been picky , i have asked hopefully for 4 tips for tomorrow, if enough people post for me to get a lucky 15 , i will have a go , i dont doubt for a minute that if there is 4 selections on this post i think that you may have a dabble yourself
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 12:38 PM BST
2 horses been posted on here yesterday for a lucky 15

2 more needed

tranquil tiger 4.15 sandown

fairoak lad 3.05 sandown

dont fancy either to be honest but we will wait and see

bet to place is a £1 lucky 15 + £5 accumulator £20 is all i have
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 12:49 PM BST
£1LUCKY 15 + £5 ACC

1.40 M/R GILBARRY

4.00 RIP MONACO DREAM

4.20 M/R BITTER BLUE

5.45 RIP SPRUCE

6k if they come in
Report saddo April 24, 2010 12:50 PM BST
You sound to be having a poor time of it, good luck.
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 12:52 PM BST
lol that sounds grim with a name like yours , thanks for the support though
Report lukehart April 24, 2010 1:03 PM BST
sparta i assume you have some redundancy money coming so i advise you open an account with bet3 6 5 and use your bet fair lay account and become a trader or as long as you keep it quite an arb

cubone
Report macrider April 24, 2010 1:06 PM BST
my will e/w win 3.05 sandown
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 1:09 PM BST
lukeheart you dont get redundancy for been dismissed (unfairly) i had a difference of opinion, mine was the professional 1
Report lukehart April 24, 2010 1:11 PM BST
well with no money even Jesus found his water to wine trick was difficult.
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 1:11 PM BST
macrider fairoak lad has already been given in 3.05 , i myself wouldnt pick 1 from a big handicap.
Report macrider April 24, 2010 1:13 PM BST
dont say i didnt tell ya
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 1:16 PM BST
hmmmmm???? you sound confident macrider thanx
Report Graeme83 April 24, 2010 1:16 PM BST
buy stuff from the pound shop then sell it at peoples door steps for 3 quid a item.



Forget horse racing, it will leave you with an even empties wallet.
Report Steveirll April 24, 2010 1:19 PM BST
sparta shouldnt u be paying attention to your kids instead of betfair.
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 1:20 PM BST
they have friends who they play with and the wife helps out on occasions , i think i do my bit
Report MikeWood April 24, 2010 1:22 PM BST
Stake & *****23 Apr 14:40


Have you ever scene a skint bookie!!!

YEP.
Report lukehart April 24, 2010 1:22 PM BST
graeme the best suggestion so far today.
-----------------
As you are in trouble the last thing you should do is TRY to back a winner today
Take the wife out for dinner tonight and plan your new life
Tips for horses without any advantage other than a formite with a funny name and that includes cubone,telling you is very dangerous.
path to take.

cubone
Report Glossy April 24, 2010 1:23 PM BST
1.30 Sand - Petit Robin
2.30 Sand - Twist Magic
3.05 Sand - Just Amazing
4.25 Punch - Orsippus

Sorted ;-)
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 1:27 PM BST
ive had 3 tips on this post all for the same race
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 1:28 PM BST
cheers glossy
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 1:29 PM BST
koikeeper i was a joiner before they opened the floodgates and put construction workers on the minimum wage not worth doing now m8
Report tutan April 24, 2010 1:31 PM BST
Spata , having read your statement . I am presuming , you worked for the The Local Authority as a Locksmith , correct me if I am wrong .
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 1:39 PM BST
thats right in a way tutan it was 1 of my duties , it was an emergency call out service . yes it was for the local authority
Report tutan April 24, 2010 1:42 PM BST
Is the Local Authority your employer or someone else ?
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 1:42 PM BST
glossy your lucky 15 is down already it is very hard to give four yourself thats why i was asking for 1 from 4 of the best tippers on here
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 1:43 PM BST
the local authority were my ex employer , yes.
Report Splicer Keats April 24, 2010 1:44 PM BST
put the 20 on fairoak lad, do a lucky tomorrow.
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 1:49 PM BST
cheers splicer that may be good advice saturdays have always been a bad day for me, you seem confident about fairoak lad and i hope it wins but there have been 2 others given in this race and i myself fancied the package.
i agree though i will put my lucky 15 off until tomorrow
Report tutan April 24, 2010 1:49 PM BST
This all sounds very strange for a Local Authority to take such action , on a individual who has had 23 years service , without prior warnings . If they have taken this action on this one incident , you have a very good claim against them .
Report Stark April 24, 2010 2:00 PM BST
Local authority drone out of work?

We're supposed to feel sympathy?

Stop whining, get another job.

BTW:- Total irresponsibility banging out so many brats.
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 2:01 PM BST
not when the 2 managers involved came to the job together it was the ideal oppurtunity to get rid , i didnt get on with them both and they have both lied although the tenant was not interviewed at my request except for a brief statement which 1 of my colleagues got from the tenant , then both managers told the investigating officer the only independant was incoherent on drugs or drink , it did not help by the guy been west indian and been hard to understand but he has told my union that what the managers says took place , didnt and that it was the opposite the 6 foot 6 ex bouncer gaffer was the 1 who was been aggressive towards me , that was the case , i had a difference of opinion and the bully gaffer wouldnt let me get my point across , he just told me to bodge the job in front of the tenant and i end up sacked .
winds me up every time i talk about it grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 2:02 PM BST
STARK fook off
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 2:03 PM BST
my 1st has come in by the way at 100/30 fingers crossed
Report Stark April 24, 2010 2:04 PM BST
You're pathetic.

Been there.

No job, c0ck all.

Didn't need to make my situation public knowledge.

Took me 12 months to get back on my feet, but now earn big 5 fig salary.

What the hell are you doing betting when you've got nowt?

Next stop cardboard city?
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 2:06 PM BST
stark have you not just made your situation public??
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 2:07 PM BST
good for you by the way
Report tutan April 24, 2010 2:07 PM BST
Stark ,do you have a family of 5 to feed .
Report ShellBell April 24, 2010 2:08 PM BST
Gambling is not the way too go if you are having problems with money. Tis a slippery slope!
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 2:08 PM BST
7 including me and the wife tutan
Report Stark April 24, 2010 2:09 PM BST
Er...

No.

Don't you understand English?

I was writing about my situation when I was out of work.

But seriously...

...it sounds like you've really got an unrealistic view of what can be achieved.

Stop betting and spend what pittance you've got remaining on your unfortunate family.They have my sympathy - it looks like you may see them out on the streets.
Report Stark April 24, 2010 2:12 PM BST
tutan - No, I don't.

I have a wife, daughter, two horses, dog and two cats.

Horses cost more than kids, but I can always sell 'em when times get hard.

What on earth makes anyone want more than two kids defies belief.

There should be a law against it.
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 2:12 PM BST
im not saying i havent got any money , things arent as good as recent years by a long way. i will survive but have decided to take a year out and be there for my youngest son , bills are paid mortgage is paid debts still getting paid , i still have another job out of hours so i look after baby while wife works
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 2:13 PM BST
your not wrong stark accidents do happen
Report tutan April 24, 2010 2:13 PM BST
Sparta , this is a very complicated case , but you have been treated harshly . If you can obtain Legal Aid , I would appoint a good Barrister to fight your case . From what you have said , they have to pay some redundancy . You sound a good man , trying to bring up such a big family , good luck .
Report Stark April 24, 2010 2:14 PM BST
You probably won'y want my advice, but keep looking for that well-paid job.

They are out there, but you have to be patient, persistent and thick-skinned.
Report koikeeper April 24, 2010 2:14 PM BST
Then why do you need urgent advice if all the bills are paid?
Report koikeeper April 24, 2010 2:15 PM BST
Not in the building industry!
Report cwiley April 24, 2010 2:16 PM BST
read my post Urgent Advice ?. You will not, unless your extremely lucky win a lot of money doing lucky 15s.Do not bet more than you can afford to loose whatever that may be.

Selections for today Sandown 15.05 church Island 25-1
15.40 Cat Junior 10-1
16.15 Cowded House 3-1

3 only but include another if you must. e/w patent ?
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 2:18 PM BST
i have a friend high up with the railway union tutan and hopefully he will get me justice , believe me when i say that the 2 managers involved are both known to be liars 1 has 7 kids to i dont know how money different woman and the others nickname is OBSTACLE because you come up with a simple solution to a problem and he puts an obstacle in the way and says it is a bad idea, the scruffy get
Report sparta 012 April 24, 2010 2:23 PM BST
koikeeper because i am desperate to by a car to take the kids away or go on a well deserved holiday, i have asked for advice if no one wants to give it then i am not forcing them to .
Report Stark April 24, 2010 3:08 PM BST
Go on train or coach.

Cheaper.
Report KMxRetrostar April 24, 2010 3:19 PM BST
A holiday isn't "urgent." Sorry. It just isn't.

If you think it is, you'll be f00ked when push comes to shove. And you can go by coach or train quite cheaply if you shop around.

As for "mistakes happening" regarding having five kids...sorry, but if you're that clumsy, I wouldn't trust you to fit a lock, build a set of shelves or indeed, place bets correctly.

Racing Post is cheap enough - plenty of tips in there.
Report sparta 012 April 25, 2010 10:51 AM BST
cwiley

nice 25/1 winner there
Report chirs_chivers1 April 25, 2010 11:34 AM BST
just an observation....but if you have monedy probs, why on earth are u considering potentially digging yourself a deeper hole by having a go on the nags?.

surely u wanna step bk, take stock of what u got left and go from there?..
if u ** up on the horses then ur 5 kids wont be all that happy... besides if ur willing to risk their upbringing to settle ur problems then maybe u shudnt have kids...

they come 1st before everything!!! least they should.
Report sparta 012 April 25, 2010 3:51 PM BST
where have i said i have got money problems , other than struggling like a lot of other people in the recession , i find it hard to pay the mortgage but it is getting paid , as for trying out the nags , ive always had a bet and i probably wont stop. my kids get everything they need and they are been well looked after. i was just trying to make a topic where i could maybe get 4 horses and hopefully get 4 winners .
if i got any info for a horse what was said to be a good tip i would more than happily share that info on here.
i am now going to close the topic and try another , hopefully to get 4 winners on a lucky 15 and share it with everyone on here.
Report Calimero April 25, 2010 4:01 PM BST
Oh woe is me!
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