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23 Apr 10
18:17
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Harsh but the right decision if i was in charge
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No ban
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In all fairness I think it should have been voided, flag men were waving flags.............telling the riders to do what????...who knows!
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Only 1 mug took the wrong course
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Flag men just supporting the horses...It was exciting
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open your eyes, there were 2!!
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nick schofield as well
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Its expected off numpty nick though
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don't really get why they were waving the flags for as the stricken horse was on chase course.
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Gone 23 Apr 18:22 Its expected off numpty nick though lol |
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Anaglogs - thank heaven you are not in charge. No ban for me. Yes he took the wrong course but plenty of mitigating circumstances. Plus you lot who backed Gaspara why were you not taking insurance on Tabaran at 1.8?
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you only get seconds to make decisions.. this is a disgraceful outcome.. the whole Newton abbot team should be ashamed
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Definite 6 month ban, read the rules please 2nd offence.
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tom tom
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Danny loves the wrong course.
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Silly rules:
PART 4 - THE RACE - (B)45 to (B)59 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 49. Jump races: directing riders around an obstacle (by-pass procedures) 49.1 Where 49.1.1 direction markers have been inserted in an Obstacle to indicate that it is unsafe to jump, or 49.1.2 direction markers have been inserted in such an Obstacle and at the entrance to an extended lead-in to the Obstacle, and cones have also been deployed at the lead-in, a Rider must proceed around the Obstacle as indicated by the direction markers and continue in the race, following the correctly marked course. 49.2 If a Rider is unable to follow the direction markers, he must pull up. 49.3 The Stewards may decide not to take Disciplinary Action against a Rider for a contravention of Paragraphs 49.1 or 49.2 if the Rider satisfies them that he had reasonable cause. 49.4 The horse of a Rider who is found to have contravened Paragraphs 49.1 or 49.2 shall, on an objection to the Stewards under Part 7, be disqualified unless the Stewards consider that extraordinary circumstances justified the Rider in acting as he did, in that 49.4.1 all Riders remaining in the race took the same course, and 49.4.2 no Rider obtained an unfair advantage as a result. |
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Have great sympathy for the riders. A split second decision needed to be mad after rounding the bend. The rider awarded the race changed his mind if you watch the replay.
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made!
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Yes they are the rules, but circumstances change & common sense should prevail!!
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wizard........if that happened in Ireland you would have a different angle I'm sure..........Anti Irish threads excite you........
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koikeeper
Common sense and the BHA .... |
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i think the placement of the flag wavers needs to be looked at.....the 2 on the rails only served to confuse the issue.....flag wavers in future notifying of a hazard probably need to be somewhere in the vicinity of the hazard i would have thought.
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nick schfield didnt take the wrong course
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he pulled up
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dats rite
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flag men should lose thier jobs . incompetent
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What are the rules regarding pulling up? Are jocks allowed to pull up for no reason? Schofiled's mount seemed to be OK and was still in with a chance of getting placed. He took the wrong course then pulled up. I have sympathy for Cooke but Schofield should be done.
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you pull up whenever,just say you heard a noise innit
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No ban for Cook.
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Perhaps the noise was the other jocks laughing at him :-)
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lol
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It is a third similar incident for Cook. He received a 28-day ban for taking the wrong course on Our Vic in the Boylesports Gold Cup and also took the wrong course at Huntingdon last March.
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From RP
CONDITIONAL jockey Danny Cook faces a substantial ban after taking the wrong course on Gaspara in the Mint Casino, Torquay Handicap Hurdle at Newton Abbot on Friday. The incident was the third time in just over 12 months that Cook, who is based with David Pipe, has broken the rules for taking the wrong course and it follows on from a similar offence aboard Our Vic at Cheltenham in December for which received a 28-day ban. Cook was also handed a 12-day suspension for taking the wrong course on the Pipe-trained Come On Jonny at Huntingdon a year ago last March, when he was one of five riders to have gone the wrong way. On this occasion, the well-backed Gaspara was taken around the second last hurdle by Cook as racecourse veterinary staff attended the stricken Future Vision, who had broken down badly on the previous circuit. The mare finished first past the post from Tabaran, who had jumped the second-last hurdle, but atthe stewards' enquiry, Gaspara was disqualified and placed last with the race being handed to Tabaran, ridden by 7lb conditional Oliver Dayman. On dismounting, Cook was heckled by a racegoer who shouted: "How many more** ups, Danny? You did the same on Our Vic at Cheltenham last December." A clearly shaken Cook said: "There was a flagman waving a big flag at the point of the incident and shouting at us to go round the hurdle. I could have jumped it if he had not been there." Tabaran's rider Dayman added: "I could see the flagman and there were people shouting but the hurdle was not dolled off. I made a split-second decision to jump the hurdle as a result and I supposeI have been proved right." Stewards secretary Colin Vickers said: |
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If Gaspara was disqualified why have the firms that pay out when a horse is disqualified not paid out?
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Bookmakers dont payout on horses who a) Take the wrong course or b)Weight in light.
Otherwise you may have an unscruplous jockey somewhere in a 2 mile chase only carrying 7stone and not jumping a fence |
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And you could have an unscrupulous coruse official who influences a rider to take the wrong course. Who would benefit from that, especially a favourite that had been well backed all day and doubled up with another runner from the same stable? A thorough investigation is needed.
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Surely if Cook thought he should be missing the flight he should have headed to the outside, not the inside where he could surely see the obstruction?
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don't understand the the sympathy for this jockey. If you're not competent enough to steer your horse around the correct course, then you shouldn't be riding. simple as that.
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The course official was waving a flag. It would not make sense to ride towards him.
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When you see the view from the camera down the course you have to think the way he decided to go was going to bring him straight into the screen.
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