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20 Apr 10 13:13
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just been talking to the missus of a mate who uses the exchanges at canary wharf, she said he he is paying a grand a month, anyone know if this is true ?
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Report Mr Wong April 20, 2010 6:52 PM BST
Exchange shops are finished:-(
Report waytowin April 20, 2010 6:52 PM BST
SIS 2.4 - 2.6
ATR 4.2 - 4.5
:D
Report freetea April 20, 2010 6:53 PM BST
That's a very sweeping statement Mr Wong.
Report clarkey1 April 20, 2010 6:54 PM BST
is that one in warrington still going
Report waytowin April 20, 2010 6:54 PM BST
warrington shut down early feb
Report The Northern Pro April 20, 2010 6:55 PM BST
an amusing thread imho
Report tutan April 20, 2010 6:57 PM BST
warrington closed to certain issues
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:00 PM BST
luane 1.8secons that is miss information
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:00 PM BST
luanne you will get detention , if you not tell the truth.
Report The Northern Pro April 20, 2010 7:01 PM BST
Mr Wong 20 Apr 18:52


Exchange shops are finished:-(

only in the winter
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:02 PM BST
waytowin , do you have SIS home service to clarify those numbers .
Report clarkey1 April 20, 2010 7:02 PM BST
is there any shops in the northwest
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:05 PM BST
Mr . Wong , can you give your reasoning as to why the exchange shops going to be extinct . It is a very bold statement to make , or have the exchanged shops finished YOU .
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:06 PM BST
Leeds
Report waytowin April 20, 2010 7:06 PM BST
no home service.....not required but they
are the times....trust me ;)
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:08 PM BST
Just Need 1 Honest SIS home service user to tell us the real delay , i have faith in human nature .
Report lukehart April 20, 2010 7:09 PM BST
there only fear Mr Wing is if Betfred opens up 400 little areas with the full IR equipment as all the shops are iwo big for need now.this would be followed by the big 3.

cubone
Report The Northern Pro April 20, 2010 7:10 PM BST
tutan, SIS varies depending on track....most tracks are about 2.5s behind live.....
Report jamesdean April 20, 2010 7:10 PM BST
waytown is correct
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:11 PM BST
This information must be under the Official Secrets act and not to be disclosed for 50 years .
Report clarkey1 April 20, 2010 7:11 PM BST
well
Report jamesdean April 20, 2010 7:12 PM BST
live = live

racetech = 0.2

sis = 3

atr 4.8
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:12 PM BST
The Northen Pro , I knew there are good people out there . Which tracks are the worst offenders please on the delay , if you know .
Report lukehart April 20, 2010 7:13 PM BST
at the moment they are trying to get here heads around turnover they may lose but when the realize that the IR punters are not usual punters in the true meaning of the word although once in a shop they may place an odd anti post arb.
Report The Northern Pro April 20, 2010 7:13 PM BST
only shops in north are leeds, wetherby (just opened), hull (closed), beverley and doncaster
Report clarkey1 April 20, 2010 7:14 PM BST
ta mate
Report zebadei April 20, 2010 7:16 PM BST
in running from home for 99% is a big no no for anybody betting more than a few quid - you have no chance,you might as well give your money to a charity.
Report The Northern Pro April 20, 2010 7:16 PM BST
thornaby and newcastle further north
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:19 PM BST
jamesdean , you are intimating , that SIS is only 1.8 seconds infront of ATR , utter rubbish imo , but I stand to be corrected .
Report clarkey1 April 20, 2010 7:19 PM BST
nothing down are end in liverpool then
Report macrider April 20, 2010 7:20 PM BST
theres a shop in b-ham very good but around £40 a day tho
Report waytowin April 20, 2010 7:20 PM BST
playing from home full-time for 5yrs....works for me.
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:21 PM BST
clarkey ,someone was looking at opening one in manchester , but lets see .
Report jamesdean April 20, 2010 7:21 PM BST
tutan SIS is only 1.8 secs ahead of atr, 100% guaranteed
Report zebadei April 20, 2010 7:21 PM BST
waytowin whats your average liabilty per race?
Report The Northern Pro April 20, 2010 7:21 PM BST
tutan that delay is prob right....problem is the delay between live feed and sis is greater!
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:23 PM BST
waytiwin ,the exercise here is to ascertain the delays at ATR , nothing about you winning .
Report waytowin April 20, 2010 7:23 PM BST
600 - 1200 per race on average....but I pick my races carefully ;)
Report 3753 Cruithne April 20, 2010 7:24 PM BST
You may wonder why the supply of those that play from home continues to dry up.

Where is the evidence of this Freetea? And you should know when you leave bets in the system you're at the mercy of hooverers.
Report zebadei April 20, 2010 7:24 PM BST
a racing post journ was doing his bllks from hme last yr,won 20 grand plus the other week in an exchange shop.
Report lukehart April 20, 2010 7:24 PM BST
jeb only 94% true,

Placing bets, as soon as the race is off and your selection is in a position that you are happy with is a 1/2% advantage.

In the 70s I knew a black guy who only backed two year olds, and only wanted to be on if they were away in time. he explained to me, the tecks of it all. its wasn't long before the on course shops give him the sack..
Now of course you lose a little in the price, but not always after that I agree with Zebie.

cubone
Report zebadei April 20, 2010 7:25 PM BST
lol wayto, six races a year doesnae count.
Report luanne April 20, 2010 7:25 PM BST
if others are getting more delay than 1.8sec then i want my money back sis i am looking at 2 tv's side by side one with sis and 1 with atr the diff. is less than 2 seconds fact :x
Report zebadei April 20, 2010 7:26 PM BST
a panoramic viewing area on every course dedicated to in running is the only way to go imo.
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:26 PM BST
The Northen Pro , you are telling me the home users of SIS is paying £675 a month to have a 1.8 second advantage on ATR . I am not having that for a second .
Report jamesdean April 20, 2010 7:27 PM BST
the others are getting a bigger delay launne because there ATR is through cable not sky, SIS all the same

i'm aware i'm well in the net ;-)
Report luanne April 20, 2010 7:32 PM BST
believe cable is another 2 seconds slower

the delay for atr and ruk from sis and turf tv are now about the same. once ruk was only .75 of a second behind don't know why it has been slowed down
Report lukehart April 20, 2010 7:34 PM BST
when I was chopping it off 18 months. I never ever bothered talking in seconds only yards,
Report jamesdean April 20, 2010 7:35 PM BST
luanne ruk and turf tv still under a second difference at kempton today, about .8 sec
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:57 PM BST
Sorry , been on the phone . We are no were near at getting the answer to this riddle of the ATR delay . ATR website gives us so much information to bursting point even to the limit of when the horse eats , drinks and f arts . The only information missing is the delay , if they are an upstanding peoples channel , they should say the time lag on each track on each day of SIS to their broadcast time . All agree .
Report tutan April 20, 2010 7:58 PM BST
Sorry , been on the phone . We are no were near at getting the answer to this riddle of the ATR delay . ATR website gives us so much information to bursting point even to the limit of when the horse eats , drinks and f arts . The only information missing is the delay , if they are an upstanding peoples channel , they should say the time lag on each track on each day of SIS to their broadcast time . All agree .
Report tutan April 20, 2010 8:02 PM BST
But pigs will fly .
Report lukehart April 20, 2010 8:08 PM BST
the advantage I had in 2003/4 was the distance of the cal de sac i live in.
Report International Rescue April 20, 2010 8:21 PM BST
Is the shop just outside Cardiff still open? Heard they made a fortune in running there so suppose it must be,
Report lukehart April 20, 2010 8:22 PM BST
to good to shut.
Report tutan April 20, 2010 8:29 PM BST
Let me put it this way , five guys are running a 100 meters of roughly equal ability and the guy in the middle is give a 50 meters start to the rest of them . It does not take a brain box that if this race is run 10 times ,the guy with the 50 meter start will win 9 of the ten races , the 1 he loses is when he trips over and falls .
Report lukehart April 20, 2010 8:32 PM BST
No i the first bet they will all bet 1.1 on and the second race he will be evens, no more races after that.
Report lukehart April 20, 2010 8:33 PM BST
done it and got the tea shirt. not quite the start but the same principal

cubone
Report lukehart April 20, 2010 8:34 PM BST
Yarmouth 1949
Report peckham flasher April 20, 2010 8:36 PM BST
B-)
Report tutan April 20, 2010 8:45 PM BST
luke ,you have been great company , hope you won plenty today . Just going for a meal now and no , it is not on my winnings .
Report Insanity Later April 20, 2010 8:46 PM BST
clarkey1 20 Apr 19:02
is there any shops in the northwest


Causeway Bookmakers in Warrington have some seats in one of their shops. May be one opening in Liverpool soon.
Report error April 20, 2010 9:09 PM BST
finnished :(
Report lukehart April 20, 2010 9:15 PM BST
tuton you seem a nice kid I will keep in touch may have a little ir snip you may not have considered.

cubone
Report clarkey1 April 20, 2010 9:17 PM BST
insanity thats just a normal bookies isnt it you cant lay as well as back can you?
Report Insanity Later April 20, 2010 9:27 PM BST
Yes mate. Only 3 seats but has Gruss and SIS/Turf TV for each seat.
Contact no. is 01925 634591 I think. 115 Wilderspool Causeway.
Report clarkey1 April 20, 2010 9:44 PM BST
how much a daY
Report Chompy_imo April 20, 2010 9:50 PM BST
zebadei 20 Apr 19:16

in running from home for 99% is a big no no for anybody betting more than a few quid - you have no chance,you might as well give your money to a charity.


You really are such a thicket. In fact, beyond thicketry. Good for you, you know it all. Thicket.
Report clarkey1 April 20, 2010 9:52 PM BST
insanity how much a day in causeway in warrington
Report Insanity Later April 20, 2010 9:53 PM BST
£30 per day Clarkey1.
Report clarkey1 April 20, 2010 9:54 PM BST
ta laa
do you use yourself and how much yer makin is it worth it
Report Insanity Later April 20, 2010 10:04 PM BST
Been going there more or less since the other one in Warrington closed. The Causeway lads contacted Victor (owner of the other shop), and he got in touch with me. Hadn't heard of them before so glad he did. Definitely preferable to playing from home mate.
Report zebadei April 21, 2010 11:40 AM BST
lol chompy boy - dont spit out the pie on my behalf

we all know you are part of the one percent with your "effects of the draw" based approach to in running punting - unsuprisingly not eveybody has your in depth knowledge of the draw and can make the six figures per anum you apparently do...

you maybe an expert on pies, an expert on "the draw" and a moderate poker player,but youve little idea about those losing in-running on here,who provide you the wherwithal for your pie fests..


Get over yourself.
.
Report Great Whyte April 21, 2010 12:18 PM BST
Sum1 get Chompy outta of here before zebedi kills him.
Report The Long Road Back.. April 21, 2010 12:44 PM BST
Is there a licence needed for opening this type of thing?
Report corbiewood April 21, 2010 12:47 PM BST
loves a full stop.

.
Report The Long Road Back.. April 21, 2010 12:50 PM BST
does anyone know where it is in Canary Wharf?
Report J0KER April 21, 2010 12:58 PM BST
City Bunker i think its called... nr all de pubs
Report zebadei April 21, 2010 1:43 PM BST
You tried Great Whyte,but the lad is working thru his pie lunch,he'll not look up until he has filled the cavernous mass or the stalls open for the first flat race of the day.

.
Report clarkey1 April 21, 2010 1:50 PM BST
DO YOU NEED A LICENSE TO OPERATE IN RUNNING BETTING AS A BUSINESS
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WARRINTON ONE THAT SHUT I BET HE BLEW ALL HIS DOUGH
Report deeppockets April 21, 2010 2:10 PM BST
What is missing from this discussion is that the majority of people b*tching and moaning about delays couldn't find plays in running if they were given a 10 second start. All this delay nonsense is just another losers excuse ... if you are good enough you can make it pay ... full stop.
Report zebadei April 21, 2010 2:14 PM BST
stop fool.
Report waytowin April 21, 2010 2:26 PM BST
clarkey
it was a short term lease.....very short....a month renewable/or not.
Vendor decided exchange trading not suitable to the building....strangers passing in and out when everyone else gone home.
Report tutan April 21, 2010 2:27 PM BST
deep pockets , I would rather run a 100 meter dash , with 5 others without a NAIL STUNK under one foot .
Report deeppockets April 21, 2010 2:30 PM BST
If that is your view then go to an exchange shop ... there are empty seats in everyone that I have been in over the last year ... if it is such a valuable advantage then 30-50 pounds a day is hardly highway robbery is it?
Report freetea April 21, 2010 2:33 PM BST
Must be sat on the highest horse in training imo.
Report tutan April 21, 2010 2:45 PM BST
Deeppockets , I would rather Pay SIS the 675 a month , rather then have the hassel of going to an exchange shop every day . If you say it cost 50 a day , in 30 days = 1500 plus parking , plus fuel and lose of time . They are rather expensive . I can handle the delay , but some are not in that fortunate position .
Report Great Whyte April 21, 2010 3:00 PM BST
Does anyone still have the raw SIS stuff? if they do then its defeating the purpose a bit raelly.
Report zebadei April 21, 2010 3:01 PM BST
deeppockets 21 Apr 14:10

What is missing from this discussion is that the majority of people b*tching and moaning about delays couldn't find plays in running if they were given a 10 second start. All this delay nonsense is just another losers excuse ...


deeppockets 21 Apr 14:30


If that is your view then go to an exchange shop ... there are empty seats in everyone that I have been in over the last year ...


I can see why this delay nonsense resulted in your trek to all those exchange shops ;)
Report deeppockets April 21, 2010 3:08 PM BST
I play in running for a living ... of course I am going to try any new angle ... I just found that given the way I play my results didn't improve significantly ... I enjoy going for a few weeks every now and then to get out of the house but I can't justify the expense on a daily basis. By the way in my opinion the lads who are still in the shops are there because they know racing and work at it not because they have the fastest fingers.
Report efisio. April 21, 2010 3:10 PM BST
walofs
Report HARRY April 21, 2010 3:16 PM BST
Just read the thread, been to Wetherby which I think has only been open a few weeks, they offering free trial, costs £25 a day, facilities good, and I found it lot easier than from home, free drinks as well!
Report flanders April 21, 2010 3:18 PM BST
is it busy harry? i intend to give it a go next week.
Report waytowin April 21, 2010 3:18 PM BST
whether you think you know racing or not,horses surprise you in most races....its the prices you play at that count in the long run
and I would imagine anyone using faster pics does so to allow them to manage any position they take quicker.
Report tutan April 21, 2010 3:22 PM BST
Deeppockets ,in your post at 2.30 you say;
" then 30-50 pounds a day is hardly highway robbery is it ?"

in your 3.05 post you say;
"I enjoy going for a few weeks now and then to get out the house ,but i can't justify the expense on a daily basis "

This tells me , you are a very confused person . I think you need the delays to make your mind up , anyway happy punting .
Report HARRY April 21, 2010 4:32 PM BST
Flanders, was fairly quiet when I went in mate, though think they only been open a few weeks, speed and set up seem spot on though, all very professional etc
Report flanders April 21, 2010 4:56 PM BST
thanks harry,im only 5 mins away so will give it a go,hope it does ok.
Report Roger OASIS April 22, 2010 1:53 PM BST
ttt willow1
Report Roger OASIS April 22, 2010 1:54 PM BST
ttt willow1
Report willow1 April 22, 2010 3:27 PM BST
ttt
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