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*headbutts computer table*
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Doesn't like going right. Ground not right for him. Just ran a big race at Cheltenham. I think not. Probably needs a summer holiday.
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He Seemed ok last month. He didnt enjoy going Right today
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Should retire now!! Awful ride
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Eltons wig. You need a summer holiday wiv comments like that. Horse only run 3 times before today, and one of them only got half way round
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to be honest a could never bet denman but winning the gold cup on bottomless ground was awesome
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He can only win handicaps now, best keep running him in top level races to see if they can get a few lbs off his mark for the Devon National next year, or maybe the Midlands won if the ground is soft enough.
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just don't run him until the gold cup.
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If it is the end you can blame connections. Aintree last year - shouldn't have run. Newbury this year in race he unseated - no need to run. Punchestown today - certainly shouldn't have run. You're talking about a horse with a heart murmur, who needs soft ground, and who runs himself into the ground...
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was beat a mile out today only his class kept him in it
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I don't think he will ever run again.
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was not keen to go to post ...hung like a drunk cow ...why did they go there ?
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I don't think we should be too hasty to right Denman off.
But I think the owners and trainer got this wrong, they should have let him rest after the Gold Cup... Greed won over care in this instance. |
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think that myself mate
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Wel mike,I've just written Denman off.He'll be eleven next year.
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Well, that is.
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should have avoided cheltenham and went to aintree
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ROBBIE
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johhny, i sort of see where u are coming from but its a racehorse so its entitled to run now and again.to call denman an outright dog is of course unfair but hes certainly becoming unpredictable. i think its fair to say he looked a bit mulish before the race and whilst capable of very very good runs hes becoming increasingly liable to underperform. one things for ure hes certainly not a horse to back at a short price.how could you price him up next ime he runs. he produced possibly the best performance by any horse in the henessy, followed by a poor run when btn at 1/8, next he runs a cracker in the gold cup and then today hes run below par.put it this way i wouldnt be backing himever at a short preice.
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just hasnt been the same since his heart problem hope he is okay
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Denman won 15 of his first 16 races (2nd in the other one). He has now won once in his last 7 races. He looked reluctant at times and ran in snatches today.
He's given his all in the past and its time to call it a day. |
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After running possibly his best ever race in the Hennessy, Ruby said "I'd love to put some blinkers on him."
That's exactly how he seemed to run today. Blinkers on in next years Hennessy, wins again off a seemingly impossible mark, everyone says he's a wonder horse. |
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agree
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would hate to see him going downhill should have retired him after cheltenham
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Why retire him, just run him in the right races. Horses are not machines no matter what he had in hand you will find that he did quite well today on a course and ground he did not like.
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Denman not "in love" with the game anymore imo
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What a load of clowns you all are, Denman totally different clsss, dosent go right handed Kempton run should have told all you judges that. Would have won a distance on any left handed track these other horses wouldn't live with him
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Denman wins hennessy Kauto wins king george, then its a last hurrah for the pair at chelters, thanks for the memories boys.
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There were scary similarities between his run today and Best Mates final run at Exeter.
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There's not acting right-handed and there is downright mulishness and Denman's increasingly erratic displays make it difficult to have a bet in anything he runs in next season (assuming he will never go right-handed again).
Reports of him becoming more difficult to handle at home follow evidence from some racecourse gallops that he has shown reluctance to keep galloping. Add to that Ruby's recommendation of blinkers after winning the Hennessy on him plus his awful crash into that fence to unseat AP and you have a horse who can win most staying chases when he feels like it or just as easily throw them away. I thought at one point today he was actually trying to run out and might well have done so with a lesser jock than McCoy. I recall taking 66/1 against him refusing in the 09 Gold Cup and you can be sure those odds will be much reduced if he turns up there in 2011 He's not another Twist Magic yet but he is heading in that direction. For such an honest-looking horse in his early days, there must be something amiss with him. After reports of him taking months to recover after his GC victory, I suspected he would never be the same again - whether his problem is physical or mental, who knows, but I very much doubt he's enjoying his racing. Even when he won his second Hennessy, he ran as though the devil were after him. He showed the same all out desperation, after that bad mistake at the 4th last in the Aon and threw himself at the next like an animal who was in a blind panic. If they cannot get to the bottom of his problem and**it, they ought to retire him imo. |
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Denman and Kauto Star both finished imo
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agree
they are pretty OLD, mind |
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FROM THE FRONT----Then why did connections run him again today on a R-H track ?
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Don't see anyone slating Barber's Shop & Notre P's performance - both top class horses too - or for that matter Cooldine.
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Barber Shop, Cooldine and Notre Pere.. top class horses!!! Are you having a laugh? Average at best.
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Probably didn't have conditions to suit today, but frankly hasn't seemed the same horse since his heart scare, which is understandable... .
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Oh dear. Looks like a lot of the idiots on the 'denman' thread have moved to the 'denman the end' thread.
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There are still plenty of races to be won with him, but my feelings are that he is on the decline. That is not solely based on todays run. I would love to see him be aimed at the Grand National and totally miss out Cheltenham next season.
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They're not masheens y'know.
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