why the sudden twist drift?

CUZ ITS A DOG

It's running at Punchestown and not Sandown.

Nicholls already getting the 'its the end of the season' excuse in i see

ground.

what about the ground ?

twist magic will love this... only ever runs bad at cheltenham

Twist Magic has never won on anything that has firm in the going.. AP already lost onthe horse only time he's rode it. Big positive he's well in on official ratings. if the ground was good/soft he'd be nailed on. but it's not.

He drifted like a barge when he won at Punchestown on his only other visit.

As John Francome would say " 5 to 1 is too big a price for that"

Get on.

Sand 25th April 2009

Jockeys not reporting fast ground anyways

I have some doubts about the ground. Track is no problem. Has to be a bet @ 6.2.

Paddy good quality but a bit one paced, 2nd probably.

Kalahari better at 2½.

owners son comes in my bar and is fancied today..

playing up at the start!!

All jockeys say it has been well watered and is genuine good ground.

he's a monkey

waked down already lost the plot

walked

seems to always drift jsut before the off. when ruby rides him he normally trys to switch him off on the way down to post without feet in irons.

is worth a small back

and large back on sizing europe

twist magic win

Well I've doubled up on Twist, hope he runs his race today. Sizing could be anything I suppose so no surprise if wins, but at the prices the correct bet is Twist.

Ruby has backed him, maybe a bit of inside info you never know he might know something, no bet race for me what get caught in all the hype hope sizing wins it tho

how can anyone back sizeing europe? arkle form isnt working out at the moment and where in his previous formd is there any indicationthat he will get anywhere near the other 3 massive lay

Backed Sizing Europe and Layed Twist Magic. gl everybody

oops

LOL thats why

Twist Magic layed himself by the looks of it

wtf! I want me money back!!!

THEY new :0

They knew :0

Iwas looking to back him, wanted to make sure he went with them, thank **

Makes you want to give up TBH. He was playing up at the start and they can't anticipate and do better than that.

They knew!

What happened?

Dodgy as fk imho!!

what happened?

what happebed, stupidly backed it when it came back to 5s...

you wont get your money back on here..white flag was raised...maybe a few books may be more generous...

mon davy

Did it come under starters orders?

He stood still, didnt want to run

as far as I could see ...it was under orders...

Yes, most bookies will refund I guess as it so bad for the sport. No chance of that happening on BetFair of course.

It was under orders from what I cld see a few bookies might give your money back dont know if betfair will or not

:(

this sports a **in joke roll on flat season

Ah well - got my stake back.

Happy with that as I'd have never backed the winner on this ground!

Sounds like you should get your money back

Bookies will not refund as he came under starters orders.

Who refunded you glazzy?

Glossy even!! Whole thing stinks to be honest.

Sorry - posted on wrong thread.

I was on pp with Forpady with Insurebet

With the horse doing this before why not just wait until it jumps off and then place your bets?

Thickos imo

It would certainly improve I/R liquidity if everyone waited till their horse had jogged off before betting

just tried to get my money back from hills and ladbrokes both say no

should be a N/R .

paddy's have voided twist magic on their results page