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cardifffc
18 Apr 10 10:03
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doesnt get many races right for a pro punter
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Report the.mad.dog.man April 18, 2010 10:08 AM BST
pmsl at that if he did not have hes tipping line he would be sweeping streets for the council
Report brigust1 April 18, 2010 10:08 AM BST
Punting, whether pro or otherwise, goes in fits and starts. Smetimes everything goes to plan and you win everything and, without warning, nothing goes to right. The important thing is to, as they say, know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.
Report Stow_judge April 18, 2010 10:10 AM BST
sounds like a right bluffer to me when he's been on tv
Report cardifffc April 18, 2010 10:12 AM BST
i watched about 20 of ruk "s online mark your card one day last week and i dont think he got any of the races he previewed right
Report Stow_judge April 18, 2010 10:13 AM BST
rather than give a straight opinion, he seems to utter one excuse after another of why this is not a race to get involved in
Report Duvauchelle April 18, 2010 10:14 AM BST
wardy89 18 Apr 10:04
makes a living from it so i guess yes

if he made a living from it he wouldnt be on RUK and scribbling his various columns. He is obviously privvy to good info from time to time which helps.
Report razmos April 18, 2010 10:14 AM BST
brigust1 18 Apr 10:08


Punting, whether pro or otherwise, goes in fits and starts. Smetimes everything goes to plan and you win everything and, without warning, nothing goes to right. The important thing is to, as they say, know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.


well said.
Report 3753 Cruithne April 18, 2010 10:14 AM BST
A jealoos threat.
Report Stake & Chips April 18, 2010 10:15 AM BST
If he doesn't work for a living, by definition, he must be a PRO. FACT.
Report cardifffc April 18, 2010 10:15 AM BST
3753................good luck to the guy but people paying 20 nicker a month deserve better
Report Stow_judge April 18, 2010 10:16 AM BST
A pro bluffer perhaps
Report Quito April 18, 2010 10:17 AM BST
The press badge for the media work is handy.
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 10:19 AM BST
i doubt he shares his best stuff with the viewers
Report brigust1 April 18, 2010 10:21 AM BST
To answer Cardiff perhaps the races DN was reviewing he didn't have an opinion on, or was prepared to put his money down. You should judge him on the races he bets on that is the best guide. Actually there are over 30 races today but I am only betting in 1.
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 10:28 AM BST
and is that one race shared with viewers?
Report Colonel Trautman April 18, 2010 10:31 AM BST
Of course it isnt..
Report tzar April 18, 2010 10:32 AM BST
nothing against the guy but a lot of pro punters do seem to have other jobs writing books , newspapers , tv work , nothing wrong with making your money , but do me a favour
Report cardifffc April 18, 2010 10:32 AM BST
but he gets the races so badly wrong............he completly dissmissed dick turpin..........never mentioned the winner puff and the scotish national winner was even given a mention..........a couple of weeks ago he got a race confidendly down to 3(first 3 in the market)...........nothing else could win................one of his 3 scrambled into to third
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 10:33 AM BST
does beg the question wot fecking use is he to the subscription paying public dont it, selling a product he wouldnt use himself
Report cardifffc April 18, 2010 10:33 AM BST
wasnt*
Report cardifffc April 18, 2010 10:37 AM BST
used to love reading his RFO column and he never seemed to be winning in that.........i think he seems a nice guy
Report razmos April 18, 2010 10:38 AM BST
^^ i assume you opposed his selections then ;)
Report TiptheOdds April 18, 2010 10:39 AM BST
I read his book and tbh I didn´t think much of it. But what I did agree with is that you should always look for value ie only back horses that are trading at bigger odds than you think they should be, even if you don´t necessarily think they will win.

I know that sounds illogical but the extra odds compensates for the fact that we, every punter, will get it wrong sometimes. If we only back horses that are trading at bigger odds than we think their real chance is then we will win in the long run.

I´ll give you an example: Yesterday I thought a horse called Michigan D´Isop would win at Bangor. In my tissue I had Sagalyrique at 6-4 and MD at 3-1 and I left bets on BF looking for 4+ on MD. When the race came along, however, MD was 6-4 and Sagalyrique went out to 6 so I backed Sagalyrique (with a saver rfc). Of course my original fancy might have won and I would have been a bit sick but I will not back horses when they trade at shorter odds than they should be - even when you have your share of winners you will lose in the long run.

On that point Nevison is completely correct imo. Well it has worked for me for the last 5 years anyway.
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 10:39 AM BST
does seem a nice guy, but thats not the point, fence sitting for an easy pay cheque is not acceptable imo
Report cardifffc April 18, 2010 10:39 AM BST
i didnt back in the s\nat or the fred darling but i backed dick turpin
Report 3753 Cruithne April 18, 2010 10:40 AM BST
tzar 18 Apr 10:32

nothing against the guy but a lot of pro punters do seem to have other jobs writing books , newspapers , tv work


They're only the PROPUNTERS you'll ever hear of though innit. Plenty beavering away quietly making a killing.
Report cardifffc April 18, 2010 10:41 AM BST
same as winstanley..........seems a nice guy but tips all favs .......some odds on
Report dharma April 18, 2010 10:41 AM BST
does anybody really care?
Report 3753 Cruithne April 18, 2010 10:42 AM BST
I'm sure Dave will be hastily revising his modus operandi now that you all have him pegged as a loser.
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 10:47 AM BST
i never pegged him as a loser, but if he continues to turn up for gigs that he wouldnt touch himself makes hiim something worse imo
Report tzar April 18, 2010 10:50 AM BST
thats my point 3753 cruithne the top boys shouldnt need other jobs
Report cardifffc April 18, 2010 10:50 AM BST
dharma..........dont think anyone cares but it does give hope to punters if someone as seemingly useless as dave is making money from punting
Report 3753 Cruithne April 18, 2010 10:50 AM BST
So he's not a loser but he's going straight to hell? Talk about out of the frying pan...

As if you wouldn't offer an opinion on something - if you were getting paid for it - even if you weren't betting on it. Bunch of bloody curtain-twitchers on here sometimes.
Report 3753 Cruithne April 18, 2010 10:52 AM BST
Maybe they like the attention/fame (such as it is), Tzar? Not everyone is cut out to spend their lives living in the shadows.
Report tzar April 18, 2010 10:52 AM BST
no good point 3753 cruithne
Report Quito April 18, 2010 10:53 AM BST
tzar, what about actually enjoying yourself? Having a diet a bit more varied than 'wake up, watch Betfair for 14 hours, sleep, wake up, watch Betfair' appeals to some people. And when you get a press badge thrown in, even better.
Report cardifffc April 18, 2010 10:54 AM BST
37...........being a pro you would expect him to get some races right but hes so wrong its embarassing
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 10:54 AM BST
matter of personal conscience, but dont fecking complain when u turn up for a cheque do a half @rsed job get things wrong and people complain and call u fecking names
Report 3753 Cruithne April 18, 2010 10:54 AM BST
The press badge is a big incentive alright.

Anyhoo, I've argued enough on here; long 'n' the short of it is - Dave Nevison is probably living the lifestyle that all you pot-shotters could probably only dream of. Deal with it imo.
Report Lee Ho Fooks April 18, 2010 10:55 AM BST
Why give him stick because the ones he picks in the races he is asked to give a selection for lose? IMO a pro punter will spend most of his time waiting, not punting - but I'm a gueser so what do I know?
Report cardifffc April 18, 2010 10:58 AM BST
lee..............dont think daves punting style is to wait to be honest..............wait for the next race maybe
Report Mr. Memory April 18, 2010 11:00 AM BST
I find the number of people on the Forum, who have a fixation about "pro punters", both amusing & bewildering.
Report dug April 18, 2010 11:01 AM BST
I read somewhere a few years ago that out of the 800 or so professional punters in the UK/Ireland that Dave Nevison is up there with the best.
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 11:02 AM BST
they want to believe it could be them, not astonishing in the slightest
Report Stake & Chips April 18, 2010 11:02 AM BST
I read the same, dug.
Report brigust1 April 18, 2010 11:18 AM BST
Personally I think all pundits, horse racing or otherwise, when advising investments to the general public should work on a commision basis. To keep them honest. Also I think their record, profit and loss, should be available at all times to view. They are professionals the same as jockeys and trainers and their records can be viewed at any time.
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 11:22 AM BST
that would do me
Report pedrobob April 18, 2010 11:24 AM BST
TiptheOdds 18 Apr 10:39

Yesterday I thought a horse called Michigan D´Isop would win at Bangor. In my tissue I had Sagalyrique at 6-4 and MD at 3-1 and I left bets on BF looking for 4+ on MD. When the race came along, however, MD was 6-4 and Sagalyrique went out to 6 so I backed Sagalyrique (with a saver rfc).

Can you pls explain how you thought MD would win when Sagalyrique was the fav on your own tissue?
Report Great Whyte April 18, 2010 11:29 AM BST
Nevo ran London Marathon so he's certainly fit for a 50 year old man
Report wolfatthedoor April 18, 2010 11:31 AM BST
good head of hair too tbf
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 11:31 AM BST
jimmy saville runs in every fecking marathon but there is no way i'd buy him a pint
Report Great Whyte April 18, 2010 11:33 AM BST
Does Nevo smoke or drink?
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 11:34 AM BST
pope catholic etc
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 11:34 AM BST
re drink
Report brigust1 April 18, 2010 11:37 AM BST
Is this going somewhere? Perhaps DN is eyeing being a pundit for the athletics betting at the Olympics.
Report Great Whyte April 18, 2010 11:37 AM BST
As pro punters go he is a magnificent specimen. Many of em look terrible and years of stessful punting has obviously taken its toll. Compare him to Alex Bird, Alan potts or Andrew Laud and he's different gravy is NEVO.
Report sir Matt Busby April 18, 2010 11:40 AM BST
looks as rough as a dogs a r s to me
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 11:41 AM BST
who is andrew laud please?
Report TiptheOdds April 18, 2010 11:41 AM BST
pedrobob, I thought that Sagalyrique was unexposed over fences and had the potential to win easily. However, it had dissappointed last time, was trying a new trip, and came from Alan Kings in and out stable.

MD, on the other hand, is consistent, was lowly weighted and seemed to be improving. At 3-1 I thought that MD would have been good value against the fav (in my book), considering the doubts about Sagalyrique. MD was also still to prove itself over 3m.

When I make my tissue, in my head, I do it based on form in the book - as well as other factors like jockey, trainerform, ground, distance etc and likely betting patterns. I may fancy a 20-1 shot because its lightly raced, the opposition have all had a hard season, its improving, or comes from a yard in top form but it wouldn´t be fav solely on that.

What I´m saying is the horse I think might win doesn´t automatically have to be fav.
Report Duvauchelle April 18, 2010 11:43 AM BST
Great Whyte 18 Apr 11:29
Nevo ran London Marathon so he's certainly fit for a 50 year old man

Dave's got other, more enjoyable ways, of keeping fit imo
Report Great Whyte April 18, 2010 11:43 AM BST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxhfAm6EdEE&feature=related

AndyL was a distant relative of MONEY TREE & Mr Winner. He was the 1st Forumite to become a superstar.
Report pedrobob April 18, 2010 11:45 AM BST
cheers, tip. Still don't really understand your logic.

All the horses have a chance of winning on your tissue, and their chance is reflected in your tissue eg a 20-1 chance has a 1 in 21 chance of winning

Whilst MD may have a 3-1 chance of winning according to your tissue, surely the horse you thought had best chance of winning was Sagalyrique , since you made it 6-4 fav on your tissue?
Report harchibald April 18, 2010 11:47 AM BST
NEVO is a PROPUNDIT these days
Report sir Matt Busby April 18, 2010 11:52 AM BST
pedrobob i will flip a coin.the last 10 flips revealed a head - its 4-5 heads 11-10 tails. wheres your money going?
Report cardifffc April 18, 2010 11:55 AM BST
think steve mellish is a winning pro punter
Report levelstakes1 April 18, 2010 11:57 AM BST
i had a proper chat with the guy for about 2 hours about 18 months ago and he says all the right things. hes definately made a living at the game
Report Great Whyte April 18, 2010 11:57 AM BST
Close up is he as fit as he looks?
Report sir Matt Busby April 18, 2010 11:58 AM BST
having read it again i see what you mean pedrobob.if you have a horse at 6-4 and your fancy is 3-1 that sounds a bit irish to me
Report levelstakes1 April 18, 2010 11:58 AM BST
i couldnt eat a marathon, let alone run one
Report sir Matt Busby April 18, 2010 12:00 PM BST
"he definitely says all the right things" GET YOU!? :-)
Report Great Whyte April 18, 2010 12:02 PM BST
Great hype the other day about John best's 2,000 GNS horse. he is so good he has to have his own private trials and cant race in public. Shades of the old Nevo Best FOR SALE strategy
Report levelstakes1 April 18, 2010 12:03 PM BST
he makes most of his money out of the pool bets, jackpot, placepot etc. to make money out of those bets, you need a few quid to start with as well because of the losing runs, so im sure hes made plenty. he told me getsa nice wage out those phone calls as well
Report Great Whyte April 18, 2010 12:04 PM BST
Think his ex was worth a good few qquid as well
Report wondersobright April 18, 2010 12:10 PM BST
"he seems to utter one excuse after another of why this is not a race to get involved in"

A reasonable approach in a lot of races IMO.
Report web spinner April 18, 2010 12:13 PM BST
Fat Dodgy 18 Apr 11:41


who is andrew laud please?




:^0 B-)
Report GANT007 April 18, 2010 12:14 PM BST
Sugar mama picked up the tab...................couldn't we all be propunters.
Report BIG GURU April 18, 2010 1:14 PM BST
Daves tips yesterday in the Daily Record
TitoBustillo(nap)2.45Ayr
Canford Cliffs 3.40Newb
Irish Heartbeat 2.35Newb
Theatrical Moment3.20Ayr
Report cardifffc April 18, 2010 1:16 PM BST
daily record \phone lines\ruk\RFO................i admire him
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 1:20 PM BST
web spinner 18 Apr 12:13


Fat Dodgy 18 Apr 11:41


who is andrew laud please?



in memory of warwick
Report laptop larry April 18, 2010 1:23 PM BST
Says in his book that he doesn't usually bet while working on RUK. If he is a Pro Punter why waste a day on RUK for £500 which he will have to pay tax on when he could surely make much more from a days punting ? Doesn't make financial sense to me, especially as he has been quoted as saying he needs to earn quite a bit due to paying maintenance to an EX.
Report Fat Dodgy April 18, 2010 1:24 PM BST
added value to the brand hth
Report itsmyturn April 18, 2010 1:24 PM BST
dave nevison...........is he really a pro punter??

No i never thought so anyway he used that as a angle to break into TV it worked and good luck to him
Report sevey April 18, 2010 1:26 PM BST
The tips in the record are for brussel sprout
The tips on the phone you must PAY for
Report lustrumm April 18, 2010 1:29 PM BST
He is no better or worse than most of us. Granted clean accounts he will win, when the tap is turned off and you have to come on here he cant win and does TV at £250 a day for his wages
Report postmannick April 18, 2010 1:32 PM BST
nevo has his own way of working to some of us its hard to see how he makes a living at it but hes been doing it for a long time so it must work for him as they say each to there own
Report sevey April 18, 2010 1:36 PM BST
Remember he has a few retainers out there & freebies into all the tracks for fck/all
Report georgebakerfanclub April 18, 2010 1:47 PM BST
I you decide to earn a living from gambling and it's your only form of income to support your family and your lifestyle. You would find your betting would alter dramatically. No more having a bet in every race. Practically every race you bet in you need to get a return. You will be looking at placing bets on a couple of horse in a race as long as you cover all the bases and you turn a profit. Far cry from having a couple of quid EW because you fancy it.
Report moongirl3 April 18, 2010 1:47 PM BST
isnt he a television presenter?
Report Glasgow Brian April 18, 2010 2:01 PM BST
he said dont mess about with fivers and tenners - when betting either win big or lose big -- APPALLING ADVICE imvho
Report Great Whyte April 18, 2010 2:19 PM BST
In a punting head2 head with AndyL Nevo would be obliterated. ;)
Report geoff m April 18, 2010 2:21 PM BST
Blagger.
Doesnt do his homework & tries to wing it.
That said alot of his views recently re watering/draw carnage have been spot on.
Report sevey April 18, 2010 2:28 PM BST
Albertas Run 8/1
Burton Port 9/2
Wychwoods Legend 5/2
Peddlers Cross 5/4 Plus Many More
Cost You 42 Bucks a Week To Find Out Daves ok
Report MarkH1 April 18, 2010 2:29 PM BST
wardy89 18 Apr 10:04


makes a living from it so i guess yes




Makes a living from it, are you sure??

He makes more money from tv appearances and book sales then he has ever made from punting NAP
Report Tolstoy April 18, 2010 2:33 PM BST
Any of you bozos actually read his book? I don't mean just look at the pictures, but actually read it? He explains his betting processes, which are long and convoluted and often mean large outlays for relatively small returns, and some years his returns have been very low for all the effort.

As an RUK pundit he is obliged to offer up selections in virtually every race - a practice we all want, but one that is a one-way ticket to the poor-house for a pro-punter.

He appears not to have had a proper job in years, save for his occasional punditry on RUK, so either he is the world's oldest trustafarian, or else his punting strategy works. The fact that he can't sate the hunger for a winner to bail us out of out losses when betting every race says more about those who complain about him, rather than him.
Report sevey April 18, 2010 2:40 PM BST
Read his 1st book thought it was fair very straight & honest could not get on with any of the Spread firms wonder why
Report cardifffc April 18, 2010 3:25 PM BST
no proper job in years..............nice litle earner from the phone lines......daily record...........RFO and his stint on RUK
Report Stow_judge April 18, 2010 3:29 PM BST
his betting processes, which are long and convoluted
He is trying, I'll give him that :)
Report Great Whyte April 18, 2010 3:32 PM BST
Nevo and john Best bought and sold a breeders cup winner so that probably keeps Dave in petty cash for a few years.
Report GANT007 April 18, 2010 3:34 PM BST
who put up nevo's share........well dodgy.
Report Great Whyte April 18, 2010 3:36 PM BST
Ravens Pass, even if Best & nevo have kept a share/nomination each that's £100K a year tax free for next 15 years.
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