Punting, whether pro or otherwise, goes in fits and starts. Smetimes everything goes to plan and you win everything and, without warning, nothing goes to right. The important thing is to, as they say, know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.
Punting, whether pro or otherwise, goes in fits and starts. Smetimes everything goes to plan and you win everything and, without warning, nothing goes to right. The important thing is to, as they say, know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.
wardy89 18 Apr 10:04 makes a living from it so i guess yes
if he made a living from it he wouldnt be on RUK and scribbling his various columns. He is obviously privvy to good info from time to time which helps.
wardy89 18 Apr 10:04 makes a living from it so i guess yesif he made a living from it he wouldnt be on RUK and scribbling his various columns. He is obviously privvy to good info from time to time which helps.
Punting, whether pro or otherwise, goes in fits and starts. Smetimes everything goes to plan and you win everything and, without warning, nothing goes to right. The important thing is to, as they say, know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.
well said.
brigust1 18 Apr 10:08 Punting, whether pro or otherwise, goes in fits and starts. Smetimes everything goes to plan and you win everything and, without warning, nothing goes to right. The important thing is to, as they say, know when to hold 'em an
To answer Cardiff perhaps the races DN was reviewing he didn't have an opinion on, or was prepared to put his money down. You should judge him on the races he bets on that is the best guide. Actually there are over 30 races today but I am only betting in 1.
To answer Cardiff perhaps the races DN was reviewing he didn't have an opinion on, or was prepared to put his money down. You should judge him on the races he bets on that is the best guide. Actually there are over 30 races today but I am only bettin
nothing against the guy but a lot of pro punters do seem to have other jobs writing books , newspapers , tv work , nothing wrong with making your money , but do me a favour
nothing against the guy but a lot of pro punters do seem to have other jobs writing books , newspapers , tv work , nothing wrong with making your money , but do me a favour
but he gets the races so badly wrong............he completly dissmissed dick turpin..........never mentioned the winner puff and the scotish national winner was even given a mention..........a couple of weeks ago he got a race confidendly down to 3(first 3 in the market)...........nothing else could win................one of his 3 scrambled into to third
but he gets the races so badly wrong............he completly dissmissed dick turpin..........never mentioned the winner puff and the scotish national winner was even given a mention..........a couple of weeks ago he got a race confidendly down to 3(
I read his book and tbh I didn´t think much of it. But what I did agree with is that you should always look for value ie only back horses that are trading at bigger odds than you think they should be, even if you don´t necessarily think they will win.
I know that sounds illogical but the extra odds compensates for the fact that we, every punter, will get it wrong sometimes. If we only back horses that are trading at bigger odds than we think their real chance is then we will win in the long run.
I´ll give you an example: Yesterday I thought a horse called Michigan D´Isop would win at Bangor. In my tissue I had Sagalyrique at 6-4 and MD at 3-1 and I left bets on BF looking for 4+ on MD. When the race came along, however, MD was 6-4 and Sagalyrique went out to 6 so I backed Sagalyrique (with a saver rfc). Of course my original fancy might have won and I would have been a bit sick but I will not back horses when they trade at shorter odds than they should be - even when you have your share of winners you will lose in the long run.
On that point Nevison is completely correct imo. Well it has worked for me for the last 5 years anyway.
I read his book and tbh I didn´t think much of it. But what I did agree with is that you should always look for value ie only back horses that are trading at bigger odds than you think they should be, even if you don´t necessarily think they will w
tzar 18 Apr 10:32 nothing against the guy but a lot of pro punters do seem to have other jobs writing books , newspapers , tv work
They're only the PROPUNTERS you'll ever hear of though innit. Plenty beavering away quietly making a killing.
tzar 18 Apr 10:32 nothing against the guy but a lot of pro punters do seem to have other jobs writing books , newspapers , tv work They're only the PROPUNTERS you'll ever hear of though innit. Plenty beavering away quietly making a killing.
So he's not a loser but he's going straight to hell? Talk about out of the frying pan...
As if you wouldn't offer an opinion on something - if you were getting paid for it - even if you weren't betting on it. Bunch of bloody curtain-twitchers on here sometimes.
So he's not a loser but he's going straight to hell? Talk about out of the frying pan... As if you wouldn't offer an opinion on something - if you were getting paid for it - even if you weren't betting on it. Bunch of bloody curtain-twitchers on here
tzar, what about actually enjoying yourself? Having a diet a bit more varied than 'wake up, watch Betfair for 14 hours, sleep, wake up, watch Betfair' appeals to some people. And when you get a press badge thrown in, even better.
tzar, what about actually enjoying yourself? Having a diet a bit more varied than 'wake up, watch Betfair for 14 hours, sleep, wake up, watch Betfair' appeals to some people. And when you get a press badge thrown in, even better.
matter of personal conscience, but dont fecking complain when u turn up for a cheque do a half @rsed job get things wrong and people complain and call u fecking names
matter of personal conscience, but dont fecking complain when u turn up for a cheque do a half @rsed job get things wrong and people complain and call u fecking names
Anyhoo, I've argued enough on here; long 'n' the short of it is - Dave Nevison is probably living the lifestyle that all you pot-shotters could probably only dream of. Deal with it imo.
The press badge is a big incentive alright.Anyhoo, I've argued enough on here; long 'n' the short of it is - Dave Nevison is probably living the lifestyle that all you pot-shotters could probably only dream of. Deal with it imo.
Why give him stick because the ones he picks in the races he is asked to give a selection for lose? IMO a pro punter will spend most of his time waiting, not punting - but I'm a gueser so what do I know?
Why give him stick because the ones he picks in the races he is asked to give a selection for lose? IMO a pro punter will spend most of his time waiting, not punting - but I'm a gueser so what do I know?
Personally I think all pundits, horse racing or otherwise, when advising investments to the general public should work on a commision basis. To keep them honest. Also I think their record, profit and loss, should be available at all times to view. They are professionals the same as jockeys and trainers and their records can be viewed at any time.
Personally I think all pundits, horse racing or otherwise, when advising investments to the general public should work on a commision basis. To keep them honest. Also I think their record, profit and loss, should be available at all times to view. Th
Yesterday I thought a horse called Michigan D´Isop would win at Bangor. In my tissue I had Sagalyrique at 6-4 and MD at 3-1 and I left bets on BF looking for 4+ on MD. When the race came along, however, MD was 6-4 and Sagalyrique went out to 6 so I backed Sagalyrique (with a saver rfc).
Can you pls explain how you thought MD would win when Sagalyrique was the fav on your own tissue?
TiptheOdds 18 Apr 10:39 Yesterday I thought a horse called Michigan D´Isop would win at Bangor. In my tissue I had Sagalyrique at 6-4 and MD at 3-1 and I left bets on BF looking for 4+ on MD. When the race came along, however, MD was 6-4 and Sagaly
As pro punters go he is a magnificent specimen. Many of em look terrible and years of stessful punting has obviously taken its toll. Compare him to Alex Bird, Alan potts or Andrew Laud and he's different gravy is NEVO.
As pro punters go he is a magnificent specimen. Many of em look terrible and years of stessful punting has obviously taken its toll. Compare him to Alex Bird, Alan potts or Andrew Laud and he's different gravy is NEVO.
pedrobob, I thought that Sagalyrique was unexposed over fences and had the potential to win easily. However, it had dissappointed last time, was trying a new trip, and came from Alan Kings in and out stable.
MD, on the other hand, is consistent, was lowly weighted and seemed to be improving. At 3-1 I thought that MD would have been good value against the fav (in my book), considering the doubts about Sagalyrique. MD was also still to prove itself over 3m.
When I make my tissue, in my head, I do it based on form in the book - as well as other factors like jockey, trainerform, ground, distance etc and likely betting patterns. I may fancy a 20-1 shot because its lightly raced, the opposition have all had a hard season, its improving, or comes from a yard in top form but it wouldn´t be fav solely on that.
What I´m saying is the horse I think might win doesn´t automatically have to be fav.
pedrobob, I thought that Sagalyrique was unexposed over fences and had the potential to win easily. However, it had dissappointed last time, was trying a new trip, and came from Alan Kings in and out stable.MD, on the other hand, is consistent, was
AndyL was a distant relative of MONEY TREE & Mr Winner. He was the 1st Forumite to become a superstar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxhfAm6EdEE&feature=relatedAndyL was a distant relative of MONEY TREE & Mr Winner. He was the 1st Forumite to become a superstar.
cheers, tip. Still don't really understand your logic.
All the horses have a chance of winning on your tissue, and their chance is reflected in your tissue eg a 20-1 chance has a 1 in 21 chance of winning
Whilst MD may have a 3-1 chance of winning according to your tissue, surely the horse you thought had best chance of winning was Sagalyrique , since you made it 6-4 fav on your tissue?
cheers, tip. Still don't really understand your logic.All the horses have a chance of winning on your tissue, and their chance is reflected in your tissue eg a 20-1 chance has a 1 in 21 chance of winningWhilst MD may have a 3-1 chance of winning acco
Great hype the other day about John best's 2,000 GNS horse. he is so good he has to have his own private trials and cant race in public. Shades of the old Nevo Best FOR SALE strategy
Great hype the other day about John best's 2,000 GNS horse. he is so good he has to have his own private trials and cant race in public. Shades of the old Nevo Best FOR SALE strategy
he makes most of his money out of the pool bets, jackpot, placepot etc. to make money out of those bets, you need a few quid to start with as well because of the losing runs, so im sure hes made plenty. he told me getsa nice wage out those phone calls as well
he makes most of his money out of the pool bets, jackpot, placepot etc. to make money out of those bets, you need a few quid to start with as well because of the losing runs, so im sure hes made plenty. he told me getsa nice wage out those phone call
Says in his book that he doesn't usually bet while working on RUK. If he is a Pro Punter why waste a day on RUK for £500 which he will have to pay tax on when he could surely make much more from a days punting ? Doesn't make financial sense to me, especially as he has been quoted as saying he needs to earn quite a bit due to paying maintenance to an EX.
Says in his book that he doesn't usually bet while working on RUK. If he is a Pro Punter why waste a day on RUK for £500 which he will have to pay tax on when he could surely make much more from a days punting ? Doesn't make financial sense to me
He is no better or worse than most of us. Granted clean accounts he will win, when the tap is turned off and you have to come on here he cant win and does TV at £250 a day for his wages
He is no better or worse than most of us. Granted clean accounts he will win, when the tap is turned off and you have to come on here he cant win and does TV at £250 a day for his wages
nevo has his own way of working to some of us its hard to see how he makes a living at it but hes been doing it for a long time so it must work for him as they say each to there own
nevo has his own way of working to some of us its hard to see how he makes a living at it but hes been doing it for a long time so it must work for him as they say each to there own
I you decide to earn a living from gambling and it's your only form of income to support your family and your lifestyle. You would find your betting would alter dramatically. No more having a bet in every race. Practically every race you bet in you need to get a return. You will be looking at placing bets on a couple of horse in a race as long as you cover all the bases and you turn a profit. Far cry from having a couple of quid EW because you fancy it.
I you decide to earn a living from gambling and it's your only form of income to support your family and your lifestyle. You would find your betting would alter dramatically. No more having a bet in every race. Practically every race you bet in you n
He makes more money from tv appearances and book sales then he has ever made from punting NAP
wardy89 18 Apr 10:04 makes a living from it so i guess yes Makes a living from it, are you sure??He makes more money from tv appearances and book sales then he has ever made from punting NAP
Any of you bozos actually read his book? I don't mean just look at the pictures, but actually read it? He explains his betting processes, which are long and convoluted and often mean large outlays for relatively small returns, and some years his returns have been very low for all the effort.
As an RUK pundit he is obliged to offer up selections in virtually every race - a practice we all want, but one that is a one-way ticket to the poor-house for a pro-punter.
He appears not to have had a proper job in years, save for his occasional punditry on RUK, so either he is the world's oldest trustafarian, or else his punting strategy works. The fact that he can't sate the hunger for a winner to bail us out of out losses when betting every race says more about those who complain about him, rather than him.
Any of you bozos actually read his book? I don't mean just look at the pictures, but actually read it? He explains his betting processes, which are long and convoluted and often mean large outlays for relatively small returns, and some years his re