HELP WITH STRATEGY

try DEVLIN-LFC on general betting..he knows

do you keep records of your bets?

Actually i had a blinding Cheltenham but a friend of mine is feeling somewhat dispirited after the jumps season.

You should re-assess every bet - win or lose - on a race by race, day by day, basis - and not merely at the end of the season.

That way you will build up a continuous profile in your mind of what type of races you do OK in, and, more importantly, what kind of races are NOT for you ... and act accordingly.

If something does not work for you - simply walk away from those scenarios, FOREVER.

You cannot force anything (to work) at this game.

its the hardest thing in the world..for me at least...to keep on recording the bets during a losing run...but you/I really need to

There is no such thing as a 'next season' in a successful betting strategy

An edge is the only defining factor in a true strategy

Once you have gained that, no 'season' should stop you from profit

I appreciate the point but wonder if you sometimes need to go back to basics and fall in love with the game again without being totally driven by profit.

Birch, i only follow jumping from mid October up to Aintree so i consider there to be seasons. I won`t play when i can`t get excited by the racing.

i can watch jump racing quite cheerfully without a financial involvement but couldnt do so for the flat

If you are not, "driven by profit," - then you will surely struggle to win. - provided that you can equally resist the cavernous pitfalls of greed, which cause too many unnecessary bets .... resulting in the inevitable unnecessary losers.

If you feel that you want to, "fall in love with the game," - then you will be betting with emotion, rather than your head ..... dangerous.

Just a question, but if you do indeed fall out of love with the game, what is it that is causing this? Purely financial?

Cauthen

Onlooker has summed it up perfectly

Bet low affordable stakes, as the intricacies of a winning betting strategy are probably not in your make up - excitement of the race and 'totally driven by profit' are north and south pole to me

integrity is my biggest gripe, but i guess that could apply to most if not all other betting mediums

Bets should be driven by profit but it can`t it create too much pressure. I perform better if i`m enjoying myself and don`t want to be studying the form for the seller at Sedgefield.

i used to love studying form..would spend hour after hour on it..now i have to force myself :(

Cauthen

Finding that 'edge' is the holy grail

Once that is in place in a long term successful strategy, then there is no excitement, no pressure, just a constant performance that straddles endless seasons

Cauthenmeister 15 Apr 23:40
".....................I won`t play when i can`t get excited by the racing."
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There you are - you have answered your own question .... as I have just posted re, "betting with emotion."

Like 99% of others you probably bet at the Cheltenham Festival , simply because it is 'Cheltenham'.

Some of us go into our protective shells at these monster meeting jamborees - and only have a FEW, if any, selective bets at some of bigger prices available..... whilst sitting back watching and enjoying the highly competitive racing, without having the spectacle ruined by 'emotive' losing bets. .... witnes the wake on this forum in the evenings during Cheltenham - compared to the giddy schoolboy excitement for weeks before.

The last thing to do is bet at Cheltenham, Aintree - this nightmare weekend starting at Ayr tomorrow - Royal Ascot, Glorious Goodwood and the York Ebor meeting - simply because they get all the hype and ballyhoo from racing journalists - most of whom would not know which way up to hold a Form Book.

great post

Generally a lot of my bets are placed before racing actually starts. Yet if one of my 1st horses won I would be thinking to myself well I wouldn't mind if that was the end of the day. Where as you get the complete opposite from some people who suddenly think that all their other selections are going to win.. guess it's sort of a glass half full, half empty scenario.

Anyway point is I have to sort of nudge myself to keep doing the same thing over and over regardless of having winners or not. Worst thing I ever do is trying to change my selection process. I don't want to quote Gok Wan, but.. 'It's all about the confidence'! haha ;)

i know that feeling..youre almost afraid to have the second bet for fear of losing your first race winnings :)

I understand where you are coming from Onlooker. What i was trying to say was that i don`t particularly enjoy the flat and so don`t bet on it, whether that be Royal Ascot or Wolverhampton.
Everybody has to specialise surely?

with a name like CAUTHENMEISTER :0

Exactly Sweetchild. I'm always content to be up every day, and if I had one criticism of myself it would be that I wasn't ruthless enough, that's why I like to have my selections and prices taken (providing they are suitable) before racing starts. Am a much bigger fan of NH too, especially novice races, I feel like I know NH 100x better than flat racing. Suddenly starting to feel sad that best part of NH is over, but I welcome flat racing as it's refreshing, just no where near as confident about it.

Somebody had taken Hoffmeister!

oh :)

No, i grew up watching Stevie Cauthen and still think his ride on Cormorant Wood in the Champion stakes the day after the hurricane was as good as i`ve ever seen. Moved to London after that and fell in with all jumping fans and my interests changed over time.

still remember his first winner in uk..marquee universal :)

Too young to bet that day, seem to remember it was chucking it down with rain and the meeting was nearly called off.