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10 Apr 10
17:40
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When was the last time a horse with 11-5 won the national? Does this now mean that horses with weight will start winning the national?
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Not much relevance now it is a compressed handicap
sorry for being a dimwit but please explain the conditions for a compressed handicap
to encourage a better standard of horse the handicapper rates them slightly differently for the national, so you dont get top class horses giving lumps of weight away to the others.
thanks Sonko tho it is depressing news. Is nothing sacred?
How long has it been a compressed handicap? Last 2 years results were 11-0 and 11-5. Don't look unusual compared to 82 and 83 11-5 and 11-4.
totally different race in last 8 years
bin the stats from now on
much better horses being encouraged to run by phil smith
bin the stats from now on
much better horses being encouraged to run by phil smith
2003 Monty's Pass 10 10-07 Barry Geraghty Jimmy Mangan Dee Racing Syndicate 016.0016/1
2004 Amberleigh House 12 10-10 Graham Lee Ginger McCain Halewood Int. Ltd 016.0016/1
2005 Hedgehunter 9 11-01 Ruby Walsh Willie Mullins Trevor Hemmings 007.007/1 F
2006 Numbersixvalverde 10 10-08 Niall Madden Martin Brassil Bernard Carroll 011.0011/1
2007 Silver Birch 10 10-06 Robbie Power Gordon Elliott Brian Walsh 033.0033/1
2008 Comply or Die 9 10-09 Timmy Murphy David Pipe David Johnson 007.007/1 JF
2009 Mon Mome 9 11-00 Liam Treadwell Venetia Williams Vida Bingham 100.00100/1
2010 Don't Push It 10 11-05 Tony McCoy Jonjo O'Neill J. P. McManus 10.0010/1 JF
2004 Amberleigh House 12 10-10 Graham Lee Ginger McCain Halewood Int. Ltd 016.0016/1
2005 Hedgehunter 9 11-01 Ruby Walsh Willie Mullins Trevor Hemmings 007.007/1 F
2006 Numbersixvalverde 10 10-08 Niall Madden Martin Brassil Bernard Carroll 011.0011/1
2007 Silver Birch 10 10-06 Robbie Power Gordon Elliott Brian Walsh 033.0033/1
2008 Comply or Die 9 10-09 Timmy Murphy David Pipe David Johnson 007.007/1 JF
2009 Mon Mome 9 11-00 Liam Treadwell Venetia Williams Vida Bingham 100.00100/1
2010 Don't Push It 10 11-05 Tony McCoy Jonjo O'Neill J. P. McManus 10.0010/1 JF
Sunset Cristo 10 Apr 17:58
2003 Monty's Pass 10 10-07 Barry Geraghty Jimmy Mangan Dee Racing Syndicate 016.0016/1
2004 Amberleigh House 12 10-10 Graham Lee Ginger McCain Halewood Int. Ltd 016.0016/1
2005 Hedgehunter 9 11-01 Ruby Walsh Willie Mullins Trevor Hemmings 007.007/1 F
2006 Numbersixvalverde 10 10-08 Niall Madden Martin Brassil Bernard Carroll 011.0011/1
2007 Silver Birch 10 10-06 Robbie Power Gordon Elliott Brian Walsh 033.0033/1
2008 Comply or Die 9 10-09 Timmy Murphy David Pipe David Johnson 007.007/1 JF
2009 Mon Mome 9 11-00 Liam Treadwell Venetia Williams Vida Bingham 100.00100/1
2010 Don't Push It 10 11-05 Tony McCoy Jonjo O'Neill J. P. McManus 10.0010/1 JF
Why whats different about them? Look about average weights to me.
2003 Monty's Pass 10 10-07 Barry Geraghty Jimmy Mangan Dee Racing Syndicate 016.0016/1
2004 Amberleigh House 12 10-10 Graham Lee Ginger McCain Halewood Int. Ltd 016.0016/1
2005 Hedgehunter 9 11-01 Ruby Walsh Willie Mullins Trevor Hemmings 007.007/1 F
2006 Numbersixvalverde 10 10-08 Niall Madden Martin Brassil Bernard Carroll 011.0011/1
2007 Silver Birch 10 10-06 Robbie Power Gordon Elliott Brian Walsh 033.0033/1
2008 Comply or Die 9 10-09 Timmy Murphy David Pipe David Johnson 007.007/1 JF
2009 Mon Mome 9 11-00 Liam Treadwell Venetia Williams Vida Bingham 100.00100/1
2010 Don't Push It 10 11-05 Tony McCoy Jonjo O'Neill J. P. McManus 10.0010/1 JF
Why whats different about them? Look about average weights to me.
Handicapper has genuinely ruined this race by turning it into a limited handicap.
Gone are the days when a small owner/trainer/jock could have a decent chance on this race. The Higher rated horses will win and bigger owners/trainers will clean up imho
Gone are the days when a small owner/trainer/jock could have a decent chance on this race. The Higher rated horses will win and bigger owners/trainers will clean up imho
Probably means those races from the 80's didnt have a top class horse at the top of the handicap.
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