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10 Apr 10
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When was the last time a horse with 11-5 won the national? Does this now mean that horses with weight will start winning the national?
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ask nick m ordin
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easier to carry the weight on good ground
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Not much relevance now it is a compressed handicap
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Ibrahima is correct
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Grittar 1982. Carried 11-5
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sorry for being a dimwit but please explain the conditions for a compressed handicap
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He weighed back in with 11-4
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Corbiere carried 11-4 or 11-5 in 1983
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11.6 actually !
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Facts 10 Apr 17:48
11.6 actually ! McCoy that was |
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to encourage a better standard of horse the handicapper rates them slightly differently for the national, so you dont get top class horses giving lumps of weight away to the others.
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Corbiere was 11-4
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thanks Sonko tho it is depressing news. Is nothing sacred?
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How long has it been a compressed handicap? Last 2 years results were 11-0 and 11-5. Don't look unusual compared to 82 and 83 11-5 and 11-4.
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totally different race in last 8 years
bin the stats from now on much better horses being encouraged to run by phil smith |
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2003 Monty's Pass 10 10-07 Barry Geraghty Jimmy Mangan Dee Racing Syndicate 016.0016/1
2004 Amberleigh House 12 10-10 Graham Lee Ginger McCain Halewood Int. Ltd 016.0016/1 2005 Hedgehunter 9 11-01 Ruby Walsh Willie Mullins Trevor Hemmings 007.007/1 F 2006 Numbersixvalverde 10 10-08 Niall Madden Martin Brassil Bernard Carroll 011.0011/1 2007 Silver Birch 10 10-06 Robbie Power Gordon Elliott Brian Walsh 033.0033/1 2008 Comply or Die 9 10-09 Timmy Murphy David Pipe David Johnson 007.007/1 JF 2009 Mon Mome 9 11-00 Liam Treadwell Venetia Williams Vida Bingham 100.00100/1 2010 Don't Push It 10 11-05 Tony McCoy Jonjo O'Neill J. P. McManus 10.0010/1 JF |
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Sunset Cristo 10 Apr 17:58
2003 Monty's Pass 10 10-07 Barry Geraghty Jimmy Mangan Dee Racing Syndicate 016.0016/1 2004 Amberleigh House 12 10-10 Graham Lee Ginger McCain Halewood Int. Ltd 016.0016/1 2005 Hedgehunter 9 11-01 Ruby Walsh Willie Mullins Trevor Hemmings 007.007/1 F 2006 Numbersixvalverde 10 10-08 Niall Madden Martin Brassil Bernard Carroll 011.0011/1 2007 Silver Birch 10 10-06 Robbie Power Gordon Elliott Brian Walsh 033.0033/1 2008 Comply or Die 9 10-09 Timmy Murphy David Pipe David Johnson 007.007/1 JF 2009 Mon Mome 9 11-00 Liam Treadwell Venetia Williams Vida Bingham 100.00100/1 2010 Don't Push It 10 11-05 Tony McCoy Jonjo O'Neill J. P. McManus 10.0010/1 JF Why whats different about them? Look about average weights to me. |
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Handicapper has genuinely ruined this race by turning it into a limited handicap.
Gone are the days when a small owner/trainer/jock could have a decent chance on this race. The Higher rated horses will win and bigger owners/trainers will clean up imho |
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Probably means those races from the 80's didnt have a top class horse at the top of the handicap.
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