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Is I/R finished?
Is I/R finished?
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myprix
by camera phone i mean it's like using the video function . facetime is talking to someone face to face on your phone instead of ear to ear , so people use this to send on-course pics |
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pablo thanks very much.
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pablo that seems to suggest that the person receiving the pictures
makes the decisions about betting. |
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dustybin 12 Aug 17 14:27
All all places full on course wazza or are there starting to be vacant positions at the tracks you frequent? seats do go unused..was 2 seats unused at newc thur nite. |
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that's correct myprix . the person at the course will charge a fee to watch the pictures . not sure how much , but he can stream it to many people.
again , willie will know |
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Theres new tech about 18mths away that changes everything people think of when thinking of what a camera looks like.
They can make a camera a one cm square patch that looks nothing like a lense. There will soon be noway of possibly knowing what is and isnt a camera. |
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Just watched the 14:30 from Haydock win by Frankuus the front runner.
At about the 4f marker Frankuus was still trading at 8 here with Laraaib at 3; at about the 3f marker Laraaib was 2.5 (and shortening) with Frankuus still available at 8; soon after Frankuus was still 8; at about the 1.5f Frankuus extended his lead with Laraaib unable to make further inroad but Frankuus was still available at 2.5; Mount Logan the eventual 2nd was making progress on Frankuus and traded at about 1.8, shorter than Frankuus. The rest is history. How was that possible when even to the naked eye Mount Logan was not making up ground sufficiently to challenge Frankuus let alone catching and passing Frankuus to win? |
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pablo how things have moved on, amazing.
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GREAT, I'LL BUY SOME CHEAP FAST PICS
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How was that possible when even to the naked eye Mount Logan was not making up ground sufficiently to challenge Frankuus let alone catching and passing Frankuus to win?
You do realize that unless you're posting this from your seat at Haydock Park, you weren't actually watching it with the naked eye? If you were watching it on RUK, then you were looking at events nearly 2 seconds after people at the track were. |
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In years to come if one walked around racecourses with a camera lens
inserted in ones knobend could one be done for indecent exposure?  |
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Not much good if they slowed all the pictures dusty.
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No, on itv ie live feed - not delay transmission.
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myprix , yes things have moved on , but for us in the cheap at home seats , there have not been as many improvements as there could be
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thefear
what about fixed cameras in boxes that people have noway of determining whether are cameras or not? |
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the future is one of total paranoia
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No, on itv ie live feed - not delay transmission
what's this ? |
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pablo I knew guys at the track with all the advantages who still done their dough.
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If you were watching it on RUK, then you were looking at events nearly 2 seconds after people at the track were.
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You must be cleaning up on in-running then, impossible123, what with your undelayed transmissions and superior race-reading ability.
Out of interest, could you post up your winning bets from backing Frankuus and/or laying both the fav and Mt Logan. |
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yes, dusty, paranoia rules ok. Box infiltration is the wayyy forward,,,
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myprix , i guess you still have to be able to read a race and get correct prices as to what is happening .
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I agree with jamesdean and Duncan.
impossible, I/R wouldn't be for you anyway  |
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In-running is too complex a betting proposition and not my cup of tea and only does it to manage liability/firm up profit. Also, I had no financial interest in the 14:30 at Haydock either but was just using the race to emphasise how difficult, unpredictable and incorrect the users/participants of in-running were encountering.
I think layers of front runners on softish ground usually win more times than lose. Maybe, just maybe, further research into this could be rewarding (initially at least/perhaps). |
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I suspect impossible123 is watching on ITV 4. If so, the pictures are not live but hugely delayed.
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even betting at home with ruk is way easier than betting before the off it is about 1.2 a1.3 behind live and if you know the run style of horses it is profitable smallish stake here now due to the extra delay on ruk pics it was great when it was 0.9
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ITV 4 is not live,...is that so? If only I'd got involved with in-running at Haydock I'd have won a bit of dosh. Anyway, a useful facility, if needed.
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Impossible123: You say you spotted an obvious winner at 8.0 and 2.5, yet you didn't have a bet on it.
My question is, what the hell do you have a bet on then? Because otherwise, you're just after-timing. |
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impossible, what interface are you looking at to see the odds in running, the betfair web page ?
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If you want to bet in-running use Betfair live video. There are many long term winners who rely on nothing more than that.
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Prestigious Group races and anteposts (non-handicaps) are my kind of bets. Even saturday big handicaps races are mainly fact finding, info gathering and passing the time unless I have a multiple eg trixie/yankee for a bit of fun.
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Yes, betfair web page only for in-running. Betting is only a bit of fun to me but I hate losing too if due to a lack of info gathered.
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The fact that there are horse racing punters on here unaware that digital pictures are delayed and that they should be using BLV shows how little Betfair have done to promote in-running betting.
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Hopefully the filthy shysters will decline their course bookings and return to running the three card trick outside the racecourses.
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jack , until the time where everyone is on a level playing field ( picture speed wise ) , it's hard for betfair to promote in-running imo
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ruk ahead of lv in my front room.
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As long as they make it absolutely clear that there are track players waiting to steal your money and that you should only get involved if fully aware of the risks, it is preferable to having people believe they are betting with live pics when watching ITV or ATR because Betfair have not educated their customers enough to prevent them being fleeced and then giving up completely.
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sounds good to me then |
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Our man on the HBF will get this all sorted. I have faith.
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