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what was the greatest gamble in the history of the national ?
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who was the trainer - ill give you a clue -- to be sure
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the answer who was the national wining jockey who died the quickest after winning the race,
In 1926 William Watkinson rose Jack Horner to victory He was given £1000 a year by the owner in stead of a £4000 gift owing to his drink problem, On the 17/4/1926 he fell in a Bogside chase and died twi days later. he is berried at Ayr inn the winning colours. side by side with the jockey who got him the job sand was also killed whilst riding at Kelso, cubone.co.uk Curse of Aintree. |
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ramsdon but it is hard to calculate bets from the mid 1800s.
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nope this was a real gamble it funded ballydoyle
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non of Mincemeat Joes winners were massive in fact he never even paid the gift to brian marshall and got a crack on his chin for his cheak in the Adelphie
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Ramsdon backed his horse to win £1,million pluss.
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Having a £5e/w on Mon Mome @66/1 bog - Ecstatic on the run in Then doubly so when it returned 100/1!!!
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thought joe tizzard was the youngest jockey to ride in the GN 17 years old on Straight Talk 1997 ?
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Correct stewarts - good shout!
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What's great about the National is that the majority who place a bet develop reasons for backing like no other race , remember my dear old mum backing Different Class in 1968 because it was owned by her most favourite actor..............anyone remember who ?
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Gregory Peck imo.
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a pleasing thread :)
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Just to conclude the discussion from last night Hayden, I have looked for the ticket but I have boxes and boxes of stuff which are still unpacked from a move 3 or 4 years ago and it's not practical to dig it out.
I thoroughly intend to take a photo of it when it turns up though, I know which tin it's in, I don't know where the tin is. |
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nice 1 stewarts , sharp today mate
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good hunting Lori , be great to see it
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dancing brave they were all 17 although Pain told a little lye and was only 16 hobbs was 17 so it is down to months i will have to see what year tizard was born to see if you have an egg to come
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DB - looks like Bruce Hobbs was at least a fortnight younger than Tizzard when he rode. Tizzard born 13/12/1979.
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I particularly like the statue of Dr Crippen at Aintree, disguised as Sir Peter O'Sullevan to try and fool the plod.
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Always remember it Hayden from watching the race, remember another irish poster coming on a thread about it years ago said Gregory Peck came to his village near to where it was trained and all the ladys came out to swoon over him, obviously before he too came out!
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final q. as my dinner is ready
Which area in the land threw up the most national Winning Jockeys ? cubone.co.uk will be testing the new ipod this afternoon and reporting |
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well done jdpc. do you want a job as fact finder.
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Bruce Robertson Hobbs (December 27, 1920 November 22, 2005) was an American jockey and horse trainer.
Born on Long Island, New York, Hobbs became the youngest jockey ever to ride the winner of the English Grand National when successful on Battleship, a son of Man o' War, in 1938 just three months after his 17th birthday. Two weeks later, Hobbs won the Welsh Grand National on Timber Wolf. At the end of the 1937-38 season, during which he rode 35 winners, Hobbs made history by becoming the first jockey to win three Grand Nationals in one year, being successful in Long Island's Cedarhurst version. A crashing fall in 1938 resulted in injuries including a broken spine. Although told he would never ride again, he returned to the saddle, but turned to training horses at age 25. Hobbs retired from racing in 1985. He died in 2005, aged 84. |
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In 2001 National I backed a 50-1 shot which had the race been run tomorrow would have won me a tidy sum
What was the bet??? |
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Battleship was the first American-bred to win the race; the smallest horse to win it; and the last entire horse to win it. He sired a couple of decent 'chasers' in the US.
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Another year, likely in my teens, I'd backed "Over the Road" at some longish each way price, I seem to remember it placed one year, though I couldn't tell you if it was that year.
At around halfway, the commentator was rattling off the list of names while I was still trying to find my horse in the pack, possibly armed with the colours out of the racing post, but more likely out of some tabloid rag. The usual "In the lead is...., just behind comes..... and in third comes... (then about three more names).... and Over....(my happy little face looks up) ......... to Peter O'Sullevan ffs springs to mind |
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Looks like a bet to do do with number of finishers , only 2 finished and now we have the cannot remount rule ? |
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Spot on Hayden
0-3 Finishers Still feel **ed over that bet |
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unlucky , doesn't bear thinking about if a horse falls when clear at the last on Saturday and horse/jockey are standing next to each other but can't remount...............would be a good one for any future Hamlet adverts
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ttt
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any more chaps , good thread this
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my favourite grand national moment was bomb scare year only 2 races to lose money and trying to get transport home when p1ssed is fun i can tell you we got home 125 miles at 11.45 pm 3 trains and a bus. what a laugh that day was and now i can say i was there, i dined out on the story for weeks got home and was on the phone for 2 hours talking to family members who thought i was stranded in liverpool
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A very famous Grand National Jockey was so pleased with the gameness of the winner he asked if he could have the horse after the owner finished racing him.
What did he want the horse for,,,???? cubone.co.uk |
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i backed esha ness.
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It is a bit to difficult for you as it was in 1843
Tom Olliver rode Vanguard and was given the horse after it retired Olliver rode it a Taxidermist and made him into a settee. |
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Anybody agree Andy Pandy would have won a week lol .
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what horse was pulling a cart in a field in Donegal 3 weeks before winning the grand natiional between the 1st and 2nd world wars ?
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get your ciggy cards out luke
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tonkabilly im not sure teddy would agree
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what father and sons have had national winners
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