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elisjohn
23 Jun 24 18:33
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loved this race , generous, ela mana mou, , shergar, dancing brave, pentire , lamtarra, nashwan superb winners , and on a personal satisfaction , advised on here few years back for gosden to run nathaniel in the race he was about 80s on here at the time, and i was on pyledriver last year Wink, of course the race isnt the same these days ,  anyway as i see it after ASCOT last week,    main contenders will be Augustine Rodin ,   luxemborg, Isle of jura , and perhaps ambiante friendly ( if performs in the irish derby) cant see any other major runners to be honest esp if fastish ground, Calandagan might turn up, other than that theres nothing imo,    White birch would be a serious contender with a bit of give, but   ante post bet for me at the moment has to be isle of jura . ps my fav winner was Teenoso , one of the great rides ever by Lester

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By:
penzance
When: 24 Jun 24 18:17
Calandagan's trainer's hinted that he needs a break, it might be Goliath (2ND to Isle Of Jura)
who he might run in this.
By:
elisjohn
When: 14 Jul 24 14:33
another out for the season,, isle of jura Cry
By:
A_T
When: 14 Jul 24 17:41
geldings shouldn't be allowed in this race
By:
impossible123
When: 15 Jul 24 20:07
The price of Auguste Rodin has contracted in contrast to that of City Of Troy which has taken a walk to the bushes.
By:
Figgis
When: 24 Jul 24 16:46
I read in the RP the other day that Auguste Rodin's POW winning performance was only good enough to have taken 3 of the last runnings of the KG. I don't have it good enough to have won any of them. In fact I'm struggling to see a KG that could've been won by that form even before the last 10 years. It was a Gp2 performance at best. That said, nothing else in this year's race has put up anything better this season. What a poor renewal in terms of quality.

I have a different take on Auguste Rodin than most. I reckon he was a top class staying 2yo (better than City Of Troy). I kept faith with him in the Derby (the only time I've ever backed him) but I believe he won that and his other Gp1s by making no improvement whatsover since his 2yo year. It was that early ability that has carried him through. The RP have his POW an improved 1lb career best. Whereas I actually have him running a few pounds slower than when he was justly thrashed by White Birch. Obviously he has a winning chance again in this field but I won't be backing him at these odds.

Continuous still has the potential to develop into a proper Gp1 4yo, but his only run this year was a backwards move and it would need to be taken on trust that he's come on a lot for the run, so not for me. The only one I can make a case for at the prices is Luxembourg. He wasn't as good a 2yo as AR, nor as a 3yo, but on his 4yo best I have him capable of running AR very close now that the latter gets no allowance. On his only start this year he won the Coronation Cup very easily, without having to run as fast as he can because Moore set a slow early pace on him. There ought to be more in the tank, and if he turns up on the day I think he's worth a punt.
By:
elisjohn
When: 25 Jul 24 11:39
2 taken out , Continues and point lonsdale, 9 run
By:
.Marksman.
When: 26 Jul 24 21:58
Auguste Rodin needs things to go his own way or he sulks and checks out.  And even when he thinks he is in charge, he is vulnerable to a late charger (like White Plains) and won't battle.  I think AOB found him a soft race at Royal Ascot, but this King George is tougher.
By contrast, Rebel's Romance is a winning machine and top class.  I expect Rebel's Romance to finish ahead of Auguste Rodin.  I don't think Blue Stocking is good enough; her 2 recent wins came against other fillies.
It depends how short Auguste gets.  I have noticed that when I have laid favourites  in the Saturday main events recently, they have shortened to ridiculous prices late on and I feel that I should have waited to the last minute. If he gets close to evens near the off, I will definitely be a layer.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 27 Jul 24 10:37
I have put up a more concise thread up on the horse racing forum but for wiw here's my take ,not that much between  on ratings and it should be a strongly run race at the prices I like Goliath and Dubai honour who can be backed at 33s and 28s ,Goliath is lightly raced has good form and looks to be improving 33s looks big ,Dubai honour has top class form abroad and this trip looks fine nowadays and any of the two could run into a place at  least.
By:
Try My Best
When: 27 Jul 24 13:29
AR won't battle?. Seemed to outbattle King Of Steel in the Derby and Luxembourg in the Irish Champion. Not bad performances I would say.
By:
A_T
When: 27 Jul 24 15:10
AR looks good value - much better than the others. worry is he hasn't thrown in a stinker for a while so might be due one
By:
Try My Best
When: 27 Jul 24 15:46
You,ve got to love Soumy. Lovely to watch.
By:
Try My Best
When: 27 Jul 24 15:47
Nice one Foyles. Hope you had plenty on.
By:
.Marksman.
When: 27 Jul 24 15:50
Yes, well done Foyles!
By:
elisjohn
When: 27 Jul 24 15:50
well said Foyles again
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 27 Jul 24 16:03
thanks guys hope some had some ......try my best had a good whack on but when they win at a decent price I as most gamblers always think shooda had more on !
By:
Try My Best
When: 27 Jul 24 16:04
You don't need much on at 28/1 to be in clover
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 27 Jul 24 16:21
had my bets at 33s mostly b356 but  should have hit corals and  this morning as well but they were only going 28s so didn't bother wi em.
By:
Try My Best
When: 27 Jul 24 16:31
Get that round the World cruise booked.
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 27 Jul 24 16:44
Great shout, Foyles.
Very well done mate.
By:
Figgis
When: 27 Jul 24 17:48
Very well done Foyles. Quite impressive from the horse too, who hasn't just won an extremely weak renewal, as it looked beforehand, but has won with a close to par winning effort and did so comfortably.
By:
A_T
When: 27 Jul 24 17:57
aidan blaming the ground for AR but the time was fast
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 27 Jul 24 18:25
thanks guys couldn't believe how well it was going 3 out ,the stablemate calandogon could be a machine
By:
elisjohn
When: 27 Jul 24 18:39
THOUGHT HE WAS MONJEAU THE WAY HE WAS MOVING .
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 27 Jul 24 19:47
well done marksman
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