2024 Prix de L'Arc de Triomphe

I hope this is one of his races prior to his main objective Breeders Cup Classic, but unlikely given the state of the going plus Coolmore's multi-candidates for this race. I think his main target is the Breeders Cup Classic to market to the American breeding candidates.

And, if he takes to the Dirt Coolmore could charge a monumental fee for his service as a stallion.

Can not see them running him on dirt.

Maybe the Arc, but would think Prince Of Wales, Irish Champion and Breeders Turf would be the main targets.

Auguste Rodin would be a very bad choice for the Arc.
If the going is soft, and it often is, he would probably be withdrawn.
He would probably bleed, as his dam bled, and he probably has too.

ENGAGEMENT	Mercredi 15 Mai 2024	10h30 PARIS
FORFAIT 1	Lundi 30 Septembre 2024	11h30 ==
FORFAIT 2	Mardi 1 Octobre 2024	11h30 ==
ENGAGEMENT SUPPLEMENT.	Mercredi 2 Octobre 2024	11h30 ==
PARTANT PROBABLE	Mercredi 2 Octobre 2024	11h30 ==
ANNULATION PART PROB	Jeudi 3 Octobre 2024	10h30 ==
MONTE	Jeudi 3 Octobre 2024	12h30 ==

Has Ballydoyle sent any Oaks (even winning) filly here? Found won it the next year; Minding bypassed probably because of Found and her stablemates.

Snowfall & pretty sure Love was going to run but was taken
out for ground reasons,could be wrong there though.

Thanks 'penzance'. I'm thinking about Ylang Ylang (50/1) here. And, AOB has maybe just Continuous; Auguste Rodin is very unlikely; City Of Troy (zilch chance of making it or even Epsom).

AL HAKEEM (GB) M.PS. 5 A.	59,5 kg
AL RIFFA (FR) M.PS. 4 A.	59,5 kg
ALCANTOR M.PS. 3 A.	59,5 kg
AMBIENTE FRIENDLY IRE M.PS. 3 A.	59,5 kg
ANCIENT WISDOM M.PS. 3 A.	59,5 kg
ARABIAN CROWN M.PS. 3 A.	59,5 kg
ARREST IRE M.PS. 4 A.	59,5 kg
ARROW EAGLE M.PS. 3 a.	59,5 kg
ATLAST M.PS. 3 A.	59,5 kg
AUGUSTE RODIN IRE M.PS. 4 A.	59,5 kg
Aventure (Ire) F.Ps. 3 A.	59,5 kg
BLUE ROSE CEN IRE F.PS. 4 A.	59,5 kg
BUBBLE GUM F.PS. 3 a.	59,5 kg
CANDALA F.PS. 3 A.	59,5 kg
CITY OF TROY USA M.PS. 3 A.	59,5 kg
CONTINUOUS JPN M.PS. 4 A.	59,5 kg
CRYPTO FORCE GB M.PS. 4 A.	59,5 kg
DALLAS STAR (FR) M.PS. 3 A.	59,5 kg
DANCING GEMINI IRE M.PS. 3 A.	59,5 kg
DARE TO DREAM F.PS. 3 A.	59,5 kg
DEIRA MILE IRE M.PS. 3 a.	58 kg
DELIUS GB M.PS. 3 a.	58 kg
DIEGO VELAZQUEZ IRE M.PS. 3 A.	58 kg
DO DEUCE JPN M.PS. 5 A.	58 kg
EMILY UPJOHN GB F.PS. 5 A.	58 kg
FANTASTIC MOON GER M.PS. 4 A.	58 kg
FAST TRACKER GB M.PS. 3 A.	56,5 kg
FEED THE FLAME (GB) M.PS. 4 A.	56,5 kg
FOREST FAIRY IRE F.PS. 3 a.	56,5 kg
FRIENDLY SOUL GB F.PS. 3 A.	56,5 kg
GALA REAL F.PS. 3 A.	56,5 kg
GHOSTWRITER IRE M.PS. 3 A.	56,5 kg
Grecian Storm (Gb) M.Ps. 3 A.	56,5 kg
HALFDAY F.PS. 3 A.	56,5 kg
HAYA ZARK M.PS. 5 A.	56,5 kg
INTERNAUTE (IRE) M.PS. 3 a.	56,5 kg
KING WARRIOR IRE M.PS. 3 a.	56,5 kg
KYPRIOS IRE M.PS. 6 A.	56,5 kg
LE DESTRIER (IRE) M.PS. 5 A.	56,5 kg
LOOK DE VEGA M.PS. 3 a.	56,5 kg
LOS ANGELES IRE M.PS. 3 A.	56,5 kg
LUXEMBOURG IRE M.PS. 5 A.	56,5 kg
Macduff Gb M.Ps. 3 A.	56,5 kg
Maniatic (Ire) M.Ps. 4 A.	56,5 kg
MAXI KING IRE M.PS. 4 a.	56,5 kg
MELO MELO GB F.PS. 5 A.	56,5 kg
Mondo Man Gb M.Ps. 3 A.	56,5 kg
MQSE DE SEVIGNE (IRE) F.PS. 5 A.	56,5 kg
MR HAMPSTEAD USA M.PS. 3 a.	56,5 kg
NARKEZ M.PS. 3 a.	56,5 kg
OPERA SINGER USA F.PS. 3 A.	56,5 kg
PASSENGER USA M.PS. 4 A.	56,5 kg
PENSEE DU JOUR IRE F.PS. 4 A.	56,5 kg
REGALEIRA JPN F.PS. 3 A.	56,5 kg
ROUHIYA F.PS. 3 A.	55 kg
SEA JUST IN TIME IRE F.PS. 3 a.	55 kg
SEVENNA'S KNIGHT IRE M.PS. 4 A.	55 kg
Sheema's Rose F.Ps. 3 A.	55 kg
SHIN EMPEROR M.PS. 3 A.	55 kg
SIYOLA IRE F.PS. 3 a.	55 kg
Sosie (Ire) M.Ps. 3 A.	55 kg
SUNWAY M.PS. 3 A.	55 kg
Survie (Ire) F.Ps. 3 A.	55 kg
TAMFANA GER F.PS. 3 A.	55 kg
TASMANIA GER F.PS. 4 A.	55 kg
TOWER OF LONDON IRE M.PS. 4 A.	55 kg
WAHDAN (IRE) M.PS. 3 a.	55 kg
WASABI F.PS. 3 a.	55 kg
WHITE BIRCH GB M.PS. 4 A.	55 kg
WILL SCARLET GB M.PS. 3 a.	55 kg
YLANG YLANG GB F.PS. 3 A.	55 kg
YOU GOT TO ME GB F.PS. 3 A.	55 kg
ZARAKEM M.PS. 4 A.	55 kg

I didn't sort the weights when I sorted the horse names, so ignore the second column.

ill be backing french oaks/ derby winner and wouldnt mind seeing Passenger in the betting here id have a few quid on him, nothing for me from uk/ ireland  this year

Entries not added to exchange market as per usual. Meanwhile, they've retired runners listed.

They normally add the field in August

elisjohn15 May 24 18:32Joined: 15 Jun 03 | Topic/replies: 17,835 | Blogger: elisjohn's blog
ill be backing french oaks/ derby winner and wouldnt mind seeing Passenger in the betting here id have a few quid on him, nothing for me from uk/ ireland  this year

re Passenger - do you think 12f on likely soft would be his kind of thing elis ? - could always request an add to market - I'd be interested myself

Won beautifully other day, caught my eye and jumped on for RA - since shortened pretty quickly but guess we'll find out fairly soon if he'll suit that longer trip

agreed, probably wont even run, but i looked at the exchange and was hoping for huge odds which i would have taken as nothing in the entries stand out for me at the moment.

33/1 with the Stoke firm.
There did used to be a  thread where you could ask for horses to be added to A/Post races.

Had eyes peeled for exactly same thing hoping for at least a trade but 12f/soft going might be a proper stretch imo

Either way he looks one for the season

White birch would carry my money if the race was next week, very impressive

actually top of the arc market on the excchange now

George Murphy, the winning trainer's assistant and son, said: “Roger O'Callaghan recommended White Birch to us initially. He wasn't really a breeze-up type and we bought into him after he was broken. We were very lucky and look at him now, he's top class. He's got a lot stronger and just seems to be doing things very easily now. He's a serious horse and that was a top-class performance.

“Dropping him back to a mile and a quarter has improved him. He came from off the pace a few times last year after he was a bit slow leaving the gate, and maybe that made him look like more of a stayer but he always had plenty of boot. He's showing everyone what he can do this year.”   .

Joint favs
the English/French derbi winners-6

and then a filly Adveture pops up
13

Where is Ezeliya the Oaks winner? To me she'd be fav or 2nd fav. But, she needs supplementing. I do not think City Of Troy will ever run in The Arc in any year.

Books prices for the Weld filly range between 8 & 14/1.

I like 14/1 at Ezeliya. I think she may run here if sound; Harzand and Tarnawa both ran here. I think Tarnawa ought to have run when she was a 3yr old to maximise sex/age allowance.

this is the main betting exchange and Ezeliya not even in the list, agree i think she would be top 3 in the betting .    could anyone tell me the times of the derby /oaks at epsom. thx

COT was 2m 38.32secs; Ezeliya's was 2m 42.06 secs - the ground was softer on friday.

thanks for that, imp

Ezeliya is 15/1 (boosted) with 'laddie'. But, she's not listed or quoted here. I think Mr Weld will not make the same mistake he made (I believe) with Tarnawa in not running here as a 3yr old; she got chinned by a complete outsider the following year.

Several horses entered in the race not listed here eg Ambiente Friendly. There seems to be a major competence issue with markets/trading dept generally. If you don't list all the entries, there really shouldn't be a market displayed at all.

The markets here are designed, managed and governed by a majority that are on job-release and not aligned or experienced with betting. Some markets were malformed eg Man City/number of Trophies but no policy to deal with it or managed the malformed market.

ezeliya retired


coolmore's unbeaten delius in this week's grand prix de paris

had been backing delius at 40/1 ew prior to his last win price has gone for me now ,but i dont mind a few at decent prices and have been steadily backing miesque de signe who looks to be improving possibly a late maturing type and winning over 10f anre fabre wont step him up to 12f till the arc all being well, 25s with most firms and the arc the target been taking 44 ish on here and ive had some of that as well .

Ezeilya retired, i really was looking forward to see her run again

grqan prix de Paris today small field Delius sosie among others ,should be informative !

Is Look De Vega a definite here. The trainer is keen after his victory in the Prix Jockey Club. If so, he's the one for me given City Of Troy is a near certainty a no show. The rest are much of a muchness, I firmly believe.

If Look De Vega runs and wins an ARC prep race he'd be 5/2 or lesser.

Fingers crossed for a big run today, Foyles.

yeah brandy ...Delius a bit weak in the betting

not a good ride on delius but looked like he might need further. winner boosts the form of the prix du jockey

gave Delius a lot to do

I have been interested at 33/1 in AOB’s 4yo Continuous since his excellent 3 lengths 5th last season’s Arc.
Supplemented for €120k pretty much trying the impossible to emulate Ballymoss winning Leger & Arc in the same season, and after only a 14 day break from Doncaster.
That was still a fine effort after a busy schedule of 9 races in just over 13 months.
Been given a long rest after the Arc not returning to the track for 8 months in the Hardwicke where fitness seemed to tell.
He has the class, is rated 119 and recorded a best RPR of 122 in the Arc. He’s good ew value if he’s entered.
Pre race AOB commented:
“He’s back cantering, but is a bit behind the others and hasn’t worked yet. We are hoping to have him ready for Royal Ascot where a race like the Hardwicke Stakes could be the one for him. He showed his stamina in the St Leger, but he ran really well in the Arc, and we think he’s pacey enough to be a mile-and-a-half horse at the top level. He bends his knee, and you’d imagine soft ground will suit him, but Ryan says he’s a typical Heart’s Cry and they love fast ground too.”

Ballymoss was a 4yr old when he won the Arc.

mqs de sevigne won again today over 7f group 1 .

Owner, Baron Ed De Rothschild sounded pretty definite about going to the Arc with MQSE DE SEVIGNE.

for some unknown reason I described mqs de sevigne as him she is of course a mare the spelling wernt to clever either

Opera Singer the winner of The Nassau could be this way bound. A 12/1 for this. I think Look De Vega is still my choice.

havent given up on delius was given a lot to do and the winner looks a good un ,a more positive ride should suit and probably room for some improvement being so lightly raced .

MQSE DE SEVIGNE runs in the Group 1 Sumbe Prix Jean Romanet (1:33) as a prep for the Arc.

Does anyone really think Los Angeles is a serious contender for The Arc? I understand he was giving weights in The Voltigeur. To me he's a grinder and lacking the acceleration for this race to win.

Content just won the Yorkshire Oaks despite pulling very hard for most of the race; the pace was not strong enough for her (apparently). Could she end up here? She's not in the betting (yet).

on the back of her last run where she scraped home  at short odds mqse de sevigne drifted out to 40/1 with bills ,on the face of it a disappointing performance by the mare but that was prob just a prep for the arc and Fabre seemed happy enough saying she always wins narrowly.  could be there is plenty more in the locker ,whatever, I have been taking the 40s which seemed great value assuming all is well as the 25s before her last race looked fair  to me ,33s bills now and I have been going in at that as well.