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30 Oct 22
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the dirt races look good. some real stars like jackies warrior in the sprint and of course flighline in the classic. hes a superstar but the light campaign is patethic. will be interesting to see if he stays in training after he wins. connections of life is good should run him in the mile where he would be odds on. crazy to take on flightline.
sad to say the turf races are really poor. if platinum queen runs in the sprint it could be a good race v golden pal. but the turf is probably the worst ever. no good europeans are running. luxembourg is injured. baeed chickened out and alpinista looks like gojng to the japan cup which will be something to look forward to. the breeders mile turf looks like modern games v kinross. a very bad turn out. baeed could be running here to redeem himself but they say no. the juvenile turfs look bad also. the end of the year is really crowded with the arc meeting, champions day and breeders cup all within 5 weeks. we all know what the problem is. the ascot meeting should be in september but the irish stole the date.
sad to say the turf races are really poor. if platinum queen runs in the sprint it could be a good race v golden pal. but the turf is probably the worst ever. no good europeans are running. luxembourg is injured. baeed chickened out and alpinista looks like gojng to the japan cup which will be something to look forward to. the breeders mile turf looks like modern games v kinross. a very bad turn out. baeed could be running here to redeem himself but they say no. the juvenile turfs look bad also. the end of the year is really crowded with the arc meeting, champions day and breeders cup all within 5 weeks. we all know what the problem is. the ascot meeting should be in september but the irish stole the date.
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should have added that the fillies and mares dirt race (distaff) is a very good field. nest and malathaat are two very good fillies.
Any big beasts running? Mishriff once again is going for the money.
I agree, the big races mostly lack star quality.
I was looking at the Juvenile Fillies Turf and feel that there are question marks about AP favourite Meditate and the other Irish fillies (all unproven over the mile trip and all by sprinter sires, although Aidan O'Brien is keen on Meditate stepping up in trip). Richard Fahey's Midnight Mile can be rated higher than the bare form of her Gr.3 win last time, but she needs to improve. I quite like the look of Delight, who won a Gr.2 at the course by 5 lengths last time: she should be favourite rather than a 7/1 chance and is very effective on fast ground.
I was looking at the Juvenile Fillies Turf and feel that there are question marks about AP favourite Meditate and the other Irish fillies (all unproven over the mile trip and all by sprinter sires, although Aidan O'Brien is keen on Meditate stepping up in trip). Richard Fahey's Midnight Mile can be rated higher than the bare form of her Gr.3 win last time, but she needs to improve. I quite like the look of Delight, who won a Gr.2 at the course by 5 lengths last time: she should be favourite rather than a 7/1 chance and is very effective on fast ground.
Any big beasts running?
Since last September, Flightline has looked the most exciting horse on the planet.
He runs.
Since last September, Flightline has looked the most exciting horse on the planet.
He runs.
was developing a interest in dreamloper , but , the moulin fell for him and he doesnt do left so modern games at 9-4 no bet
i think above the curve might win the filly and mares turf at around 9-2 thats my only thought of a bet , theirs doubts about l/h here also , but , well that's all i see as a bet here . gl with your selections
I'll leave the dirt racing for those who know. In the Turf Mile, on ability the prices are clearly wrong. Kinross is at least 2 lengths superior to Modern Games. I can only think the price disparity is due to Kinross stepping up to the mile for the first time this year, but anyone who saw his 2yo debut would've been very confident that he'd stay at least that far the following year. Now as a 5yo I'd be amazed if he wouldn't stay. He has actually won over the trip, albeit in a poor Listed event on the AW. On other attempts over the distance he had just lost his way and wasn't going to be winning at any trip.
I make his latest effort his best yet. This season he has been progressing in small steps, and when that happens it's impossible to know where it will end and when such a horse will begin to regress. I don't rate him quite up to regular Gp1 winning standard on our shores, but he's become a solid Gp2 horse and that should be good enough here. I think the only danger to him is himself going off the boil rather than the other runners.
I make his latest effort his best yet. This season he has been progressing in small steps, and when that happens it's impossible to know where it will end and when such a horse will begin to regress. I don't rate him quite up to regular Gp1 winning standard on our shores, but he's become a solid Gp2 horse and that should be good enough here. I think the only danger to him is himself going off the boil rather than the other runners.
Ground conditions are a bit uncertain, as there could be rain at Keeneland on Saturday (originally it was expected to be dry, with warm sunshine and a stiff wind drying out the track), which adds a possible complicating factor. But in the Mile there isn't much between Modern Games, Kinross and Dreamloper on the ratings so Ed Walker's mare, who put up a career-best performance last time, looks interesting at 8/1.
I'm on Figgis for a few bottles of pom pom second part of my double 11/2 winner + this oss. Hope you are well.
Wodge on Flightline at 6/4 as well though I'm not as confident as most.
LOTO, I'm not too bad thanks. Well I make him more like an evens chance so 9/4 is still decent. I think it's all about him running his race or not, as there's no doubt in my mind he's clearly the best.
If the ground quickens up (it's currently good), Delight will look very overpriced at 8/1 in the Juvenile Fillies Turf. She looks progressive, was impressive last time out, and is rated just a couple of pounds behind Meditate (11/4).
to say the draw is not kind is a under-estimate a massive under-estimate imo . the rock couldnt get it done from 10 of 14 , kinross will have to run to place a pray they go way too fast
jumps well ,front-runner , inside draw , only a length or so off kinross form . 18-1 are you shipping me
obv modern games at 2-1 is the thorn in the side but 18-1 is too big for his chance and i,ll rather have a punt at that than hope modern games comes in at 2-1 . bullet to the head and modern games beats pogo . best of luck
Rock Of Gibrlatar ran at Arlington. The early pace was slow and, bearing that in mind, Kinane rode a poor race, unusual for him. I only see the draw as a negative if they go slow again. If that happens then luck in running will come into play and the question of Dettori being proactive enough if the chance comes to take a more prominent position early on. If, however, the race is run in the same manner as the last time it was held at Keeneland, I don't see the wid drawer being a hindrance at all.
wowcha ! so your telling me a draw of 13 of 14 around a tight track is not a negative ! your delusional , he may win , but , the draw is most certainly a negative !
Thought Emaraaty Ana was a sporting e/w bet at 25/1 4 places.
Decent draw and the intermediate 5 1/2f trip looks his optimum.
Ryan Moore jocked up and he seemed to have worked out how to ride the turf track last night.
Decent draw and the intermediate 5 1/2f trip looks his optimum.
Ryan Moore jocked up and he seemed to have worked out how to ride the turf track last night.
Outside draw for Kinross certainly not a positive.You can
back him @ 4/1+ now.
I like the American horse,Annapolis in this but he's in (11).
Got a good E/W chance if he can overcome that.
Tuesday in the F&M,can see her running a big one on the faster
ground.Her last 2 runs were on Sft.Around the 6/1 mark.
Main bet will be on Nest (F&M Distaff).7/4 or thereabouts currently.
GL ALL
back him @ 4/1+ now.
I like the American horse,Annapolis in this but he's in (11).
Got a good E/W chance if he can overcome that.
Tuesday in the F&M,can see her running a big one on the faster
ground.Her last 2 runs were on Sft.Around the 6/1 mark.
Main bet will be on Nest (F&M Distaff).7/4 or thereabouts currently.
GL ALL
the superiority of the european horses in fridays turf races was vast......impossible to back american horses on turf
so your telling me a draw of 13 of 14 around a tight track is not a negative
I said it could be a negative if they go slow early. If you're telling me it's a negative in a fast run race, especially against largely inferior runners, then no I don't believe it.
I said it could be a negative if they go slow early. If you're telling me it's a negative in a fast run race, especially against largely inferior runners, then no I don't believe it.
Well done Ballydoyle and a great performance from Tuesday and the whole team. Ryan on his game and riding superbly.
How many of the British/Irish winners will be household names in the future? Zilch, I'd think. Is this year's renewal a below par one?
I hope the hotpot Flightline is the real superstar to lift this uninspiring collection of winners.
I hope the hotpot Flightline is the real superstar to lift this uninspiring collection of winners.
A Talking Horse delivers .... Everything you want to see in a racehorse,pure class.
Well done Ballydoyle and a great performance from Tuesday and the whole team. Ryan on his game and riding superbly.
3 winners too for Charlie Appleby
3 winners too for Charlie Appleby
Tuesday and Mind Games x8 and x7 Group 1 races respectively since May 2022 and still fresh as paint. Up there with the likes of Giants Causeway.
I think if Tuesday had been foaled in January instead of June she would have had more 1's to her name. Tough as teak and great that she's staying in training.
maybe but apart from the BC it's not like she was mopping up G1s at the back end of the season.
I think the ground she ran on might have something to do with that. Can only see her getting better and better.
possibly the ground but the competition in the BC turf races is very weak - barely european G2 standard. all the european BC winners were not the best of their class.
Takes a special filly to start in April and finish in November looking even better.
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