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gpz6316
27 Oct 18 17:36
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enable takes up the market and she will need a good draw and to have improved since the arc as sea of class would have had her in a stride or two,  so shes not as good as last year and i think theirs some value to be had here in the shape of another high class 3yo filly magical  around 8-1 ish . shes been running over 1m ish so has plenty of tactical pace and has proven over her last two runs that stamina is not an issue . she was laid out for the oaks , but , picked up a niggle and comes here in top form , having won on champions day , my niggle is its a little quick 14 days , but , shes fresh,  in top form , thought very highly of and at 8-1 ish is where i wanna be .
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Report gpz6316 October 27, 2018 7:02 PM BST
did,nt see the arc thread pick up on magical so apologies to harry and figgis whom were already thinking this race , but , hadnt started a thread for it
Report impossible123 October 27, 2018 7:15 PM BST
I believe Magical would have won the Epsom Oaks had she not been injured; she beat Coroner and Lah Ti Dar on merit in the Yorkshire Oaks. He'd give here Enable a run for her money, but receiving only 4lbs may not be sufficient as I expect Enable to improve from her Arc victory.
Report Millerracing67 October 28, 2018 10:48 AM GMT
Enable clearly wasn't at her best in winner her 2nd Arc.
The "stats" on Arc winners going to the BC is woeful, none have won!!!
But having only raced twice this season due to a setback, she could well brake the mould & do the biz.
A spot or 2 of rain would aid her cause, & if she does improve for her Arc win, she could well do, I'd expect her to win.
& I hope she does, she's a bit special in my book.
Report Andrew in Sweden October 28, 2018 10:56 AM GMT
Millerracing67,

I agree, there isn't a 3 old filly to touch a fit Enable in my opinion and it's difficult to see what can beat her next weekend, but i want to see the field, draw and going before i back her.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y October 28, 2018 11:04 AM GMT
I believe Magical would have won the Epsom Oaks had she not been injured; she beat Coroner and Lah Ti Dar on merit in the Yorkshire Oaks.


Fack me Ascot must have moved considerably further North Plain
Report impossible123 October 28, 2018 12:51 PM GMT
The chance of Golden Horn winning in America after his triumph in The Arc from a car-park draw was scuppered when the heavens opened big time, and who was there to take advantage? Yes, Found the winner of The Arc the following year, the same horse that was comprehensibly beaten by Golden Horn (prior), Highland Reel, Postponed, Almanzor and even Seventh Heaven. All things being equal Enable has an excellent chance but her price is extremely skinny.
Report EastLower Gooner October 28, 2018 8:19 PM GMT
Use her in your exotics.

Shaping into a very nice race for exactas and trifectas.

Might just keep it simple and double up with Catalina Cruiser in the Dirt Mile.
Report Andrew in Sweden October 28, 2018 8:52 PM GMT
The chance of Golden Horn winning in America after his triumph in The Arc from a car-park draw was scuppered when the heavens opened big time

The Breeders Cup Turf 2015 was run at Keeneland, one of the tightest tracks in the USA where an inside draw is very beneficial. Golden Horn was drawn 1 (not in the car park) the best possible draw.

He broke well, raced up with the pace behind a run-away leader, led off the last bend and was beaten 0.5L by Found (and the filly allowance) close home. The ground was good.
Report Figgis October 28, 2018 9:45 PM GMT
Most Arc winners who end up going for this have had the edge taken off them when winning in France. However those who believe Enable is as good as ever must fancy her very strongly here. If she was only unimpressive in the Arc due to a lack of fitness then that race surely would've brought her to a peak for this?
Report Andrew in Sweden October 29, 2018 9:59 PM GMT
Enable draw in 2, a good draw around Churchill Downs.
Report gpz6316 October 29, 2018 10:11 PM GMT
what draw did magical get andrew ?
Report harry callaghan October 29, 2018 11:34 PM GMT
stall 5
Report EastLower Gooner October 29, 2018 11:53 PM GMT
Heavy rain forecast for Wednesday and Thursday.

Roaring Lion could miss the Classic because of it and I’m not sure Aidan will be too keen on Mendeldog either.

Just something to be careful about...hopefully by race time everything has dried out a bit.
Report RozelKid October 30, 2018 3:18 AM GMT
Churchill’s dirt Track is notorious for draining very quick - Back on derby day 2004 the track started sloppy , then got fast , then it rained turning it back to sloppy, then within 2 hours it was fast again -  it then started raining up to the Derby and ended up sloppy - All in the matter of 8 hours from day break.


The turf at Churchill drains quick also ....But you don’t want to run on inside as the course drains towards the inner hedge -  so the inside could be heavy and the outside could be soft... if you catch my drift.
Report RozelKid October 30, 2018 3:27 AM GMT
The dirt track official going actually went from sloppy, fast, sloppy in the space of 4 hours. Shocked
Report happysandwich October 30, 2018 9:07 AM GMT
What UK day & time is the Breeders Cup Turf off ?

Also why is it Suspended on the anti-post market ?
Report Andrew in Sweden October 30, 2018 1:06 PM GMT
Happysandwich,

Friday 2nd - first race 19.21

Saturday 3rd - first race 16.00

Breeders Cup turf (Enable) is Saturday 3rd - 20.56

Ante-post market closed for declaration stage
Report happysandwich October 30, 2018 1:34 PM GMT
Andrew,

Lucky I asked as I thought it was about 3.00am Sunday morning. It's 4.56pm local time.

I'm at a friends 90th birthday dinner Saturday from 7.00pm (no, not the girlfriend Laugh) so will back Enable before we go out.

Thanks for the heads up.
Report gpz6316 November 3, 2018 7:58 PM GMT
according to matt chapman quotes on atr site gosden thinks he now has enable fully fit for this race . that being the case its game over for the pretenders . i will stick with my view that she isnt as good and if she is well fair play to a wonderful filly best of luck .
Report gpz6316 November 3, 2018 9:05 PM GMT
congrats to enable a true champion
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