Horse Antepost
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15 Oct 18
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There look to be an awful lot of horses with holes in them that are currently engaged in this race. And there are quite a few horses that are in the same yard, so unless Gosden, O'Brien, Mullins etc have multiple runners the field size could collapse too.
Sir Erec improved a whopping 33lbs (RPRs) on his fourth start on Sunday. He's totally unexposed, bred to stay 2 miles and loves cut.
No idea if he's even being considered for this but 100/1 is insane (if you can get it) and the 50/1 next best price is bloody big too. Laying 1/5 1st 3 I wouldn't be going much bigger than 14/1.
Sir Erec improved a whopping 33lbs (RPRs) on his fourth start on Sunday. He's totally unexposed, bred to stay 2 miles and loves cut.
No idea if he's even being considered for this but 100/1 is insane (if you can get it) and the 50/1 next best price is bloody big too. Laying 1/5 1st 3 I wouldn't be going much bigger than 14/1.
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you do love a priced horse headmaster
 i have to say if taking up his entry he is a really fair shout tbf if that race didn't take to much out of him, ive done this race to death tbh...are the 5 day decs out yet or is it the 22 the racing post have up do you know headmaster?? |
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Yes I do Harry. Thankfully, for the forum, I only start threads on the ones I'm really sweet on
I'm keen to take on the fav here. The balance of his form would suggest soft or worse ground would be a negative, and they drilled him to get the million up (understandably). He was reportedly pooped after York so at a shade of odds-on I'm happy to pass. When you start going through the rest it really takes very little time to get down to Sir Erec. Multiple out-of-form horses, multiple non-runners, including one that isn't even in the continent at the moment, I could go on! |
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Confirmations, including any supplementaries, will be out in about an hour hopefully.
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i'm the same pal i want to get him as well, it's a shame they aren't nrnb he still ran well in this last year though, so him not handling the swamp is not a guarantee but we have to try as it certainly isn't his ideal
like you say countless out of form horses and this horse devoured the swamp at limerick and picked up strong in the furlong that day, however the second did collapse quicker than a cheap millets tent and isn't the most willing lets just say but the third horse is a good stick to rate the race so he is a cracking long shot if taking up the engagement are those the 5 day decs on the racing post do you know headmaster 22 left if so, i have one other that interests me but not sure if it is a guaranteed runner?? |
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ah thanks
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12/1 i think it's fair to say, you have a minor edge headmaster...fair play
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For those that aren't on I really think the 20/1 is still a big price given what's left in the race. I've had a top up.
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Twilight Payment seems to be a reliable old stick and on a line through him Sir Erec has very little to fear from anything. And he's fresh. And he's improving. And he's 20s.
Not many you can say that about. Just need him to run now  |
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you really are a horrible thief headmaster, i admire it
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you won't know he is a runner till thursday now i'd say but they clearly fancy taking a shot with him headmaster
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Certainly an interesting horse - the way he bounded clear inside the final furlong at Limerick was visually taking and left the impression that stepping up to 2 miles might see him in an even better light. Good luck Headmaster, I've had a few quid on him at 20/1 just for S&G.
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Thank you Harry and MW. I see he's in the Prix Royal-Oak the following weekend too, which is good in terms of what his trainer perceives him to be, but not so good if he needs another week. But at these sort of prices my moto is bet first, pray later. 20s gone now. The remaining 16s I still would not want to lay (assuming Kew Gardens and Capri are no-shows he'd be 3rd in on my book).
What a shame Betfair decided to "optimise" (ffs) their ante-post offerings. He would have been a very nice green on here, I'd imagine. |
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headmaster if he is third in on your book who are the 2 above him just out of interest??
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Stradivarius and Flag Of Honour, Harry. I wouldn't argue they found the right fav and 2nd fav...it was the order after that which got me excited.
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fair enough pal i'm not keen on either but least of all flag of honour and think thomas hobson is the play here at least that is what i've played a pleasure ew...if we ignore his early season form where melbourne clearly took plenty out of the horse like so many that try, i think he will reach his peak here on the swamp he desires and have played him, lets pray we get payed
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any idea which O'brien horses will run in this? I think Capri is the value if turning up in this
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V surprised if he goes, bloob. Think more likely for the Champion. Obviously Flag Of Honour is the No.1. Hoping Sir Erec makes up the B team.
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yes, with no other obvious choice for the Champion I'm pretty sure Capri will run in that, although it's an inadequate trip the ground may bring it into the equation. I'm thinking of Kew Gardens as a viable alternative but I would think they would swerve this due to the short time since the Arc run
Coolmore do waste a lot of money on entries, I've just about given up backing their horses antepost |
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well done headmaster, phase 1 complete
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best of luck with this, the booking of Donnacha suggests it's not in this as a pacemaker
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i've had a small bet, it's a shame it hasn't ended up an 8 runner race but i like the horse, so have had a small win bet as he really is an unknown here and is seriously bred for the job along with thomas hobson ew who is my main fancy
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tricky to sort the pace of the race in regards to horses chances... flag of honour is very likely to go on here but in order for it to favour his other fancied horse sir erec surely he will want a truly run race, so will flag of honour take a lead from cypress creek who could be the lamb here or will flag of honour get loose on an easy uncontested lead...a slowly run affair will surely suit stradavarius who has a decent turn of foot and after a long season probably won't want a gruelling affair
much to ponder and i can't quite figure it out in regards how this will pan out pace wise |
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Warm words aec, thank you.
I'm sure we all know what's going to happen tomorrow. The horse shortens all day, goes off 5/1...and finishes 4th. |
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Great stuff HM, best of luck
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Great stuff HM, just what the Ante Post forum is about, the spotting of overpriced horses, that we hope will shrink in price, and run in the race
I hope it comes off. |
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irrespective of getting paid out, this was a great post! good work. well done sir.
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echo the two posts above - good luck HM
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GL |
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The Headmaster,
Irrespective of the result today, a very good shout, well done and good luck. |
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You can lay '3 places' at around 1.7 !
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Just seen this post now. What a brilliant pick. GL today
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Great call, great thread - surely one of best ever, win or lose.
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great effort headmaster. well done!
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20/1 place return for you, well done HM!
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Cheers all. That was a close call - would have bitten your arm off for 3rd a furlong out.
Well done anyway Sir Erec - you're going to make some 4yo I suspect. Bet JP wouldn't mind him in the team. |
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well done headmaster you got the ew pal so well done to you on an exceptional call, really enjoyed the chat on this thread
sickened really, i knew o'brien had to take the race by the short and curlys and he didn't and just set it up for stradivarius...had my bollox on that thomas hobson ew so a putrid result for me personally, although we obviously got the place it still sickens me he didn't get the run, although i have a feeling the winner was to good but no thanks to o'brien who similarly to the arc could of controlled the speed and didn't and just gave the race to gosden on a platter |
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Great call HM
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Great Play HM, glad you nodded the 3rd back from Ryan Moore on the line.
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Yooo are still the man Headmaster class always tells.
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