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By:
Charlton2005
When: 06 Oct 18 18:21
now 7s and tomorrow maybe 10s as predicted

4/1 ffs, what a joke
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 06 Oct 18 20:24
I must admit to being confused with this one. I must be the only person who thinks the horse will actually be better off on soft ground. The dam hasn’t had many top class horses but the other couple rated above 100 have excellent form on soft.

STS wasn’t ground dependant and some of his best progeny have absolutely excelled on soft ground. Harzand being a prime example.

The extra emphasis on stamina will surely help too? Of course she may well not be good enough, but I just can’t understand why she was backed in as low as 3/1, but now some rain is forecast, she’s out to 13/2? Unless of course it’s something else and she just hasn’t travelled over particularly well?
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Oct 18 20:46
Now, she's available at 7/1 probably due to her adverse draw, persistent support for Waldgeist and possibly the forecast of 8mm of rain tonight into tomorrow; 7/1 a price worth chancing given her proven ability and potential?
By:
Charlton2005
When: 06 Oct 18 21:17
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I must admit to being confused with this one. I must be the only person who thinks the horse will actually be better off on soft ground. The dam hasn’t had many top class horses but the other couple rated above 100 have excellent form on soft.

STS wasn’t ground dependant and some of his best progeny have absolutely excelled on soft ground. Harzand being a prime example.

The extra emphasis on stamina will surely help too? Of course she may well not be good enough, but I just can’t understand why she was backed in as low as 3/1, but now some rain is forecast, she’s out to 13/2? Unless of course it’s something else and she just hasn’t travelled over particularly well?


should never have been 4/1. nothing to do with travelling.
By:
Charlton2005
When: 06 Oct 18 21:25
Lion King 29 Sep 18 21:27 Joined: 21 May 05 | Topic/replies: 163 | Blogger: Lion King's blog
Wow you could go bankrupt very quickly. She gets a lot of weight and has a good turn of foot. Won't be 5/1 on the day imho if no Cracksman.


no she won't
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 06 Oct 18 21:28
That’s not really the point though Charlton.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 06 Oct 18 21:29
Paddy obviously know something. Can’t get her price out fast enough.
By:
Charlton2005
When: 06 Oct 18 21:32
ccm, isnt the point the "drift"?

the price was just wrong. thats why i made the thread, to point that out. why a few mugs are happy to take way under the odds, well this won't be the first time that's happened surely. Grin
By:
Charlton2005
When: 06 Oct 18 21:33
if cracksman was in the race, she would have ended 20/1 on the french pari
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 06 Oct 18 21:55
Personally, I don’t think the drift is merely a ‘correction’.
By:
Charlton2005
When: 06 Oct 18 22:29
well i can tell you i don't have any knowledge of whats going on yet i predicted exactly this move, so for me it is a correction
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 06 Oct 18 22:54

Oct 6, 2018 -- 8:24PM, Can't Catch Me wrote:


I must admit to being confused with this one. I must be the only person who thinks the horse will actually be better off on soft ground. The dam hasn’t had many top class horses but the other couple rated above 100 have excellent form on soft. STS wasn’t ground dependant and some of his best progeny have absolutely excelled on soft ground. Harzand being a prime example. The extra emphasis on stamina will surely help too? Of course she may well not be good enough, but I just can’t understand why she was backed in as low as 3/1, but now some rain is forecast, she’s out to 13/2? Unless of course it’s something else and she just hasn’t travelled over particularly well?


You're not the only one- would add that the damsire Hernando's stats are at least as good with soft and heavy in the description as they are on good and good to firm - his progeny include the likes of Cape Tribulation and Taws so on that basis Sea of Class should n't be found wanting on softer ground or for the stronger test of stamina which ensues due to a more testing surface.

The idea that she does n't want soft ground is a function of her trainer's comments and the fact that he withdrew her before The Oaks due to soft ground (though I think there may have been an element of expediency involved in that because of his reservations about her lack of experience).

However, it's a bit like when you disagree with the manager about the selection of players for the football team you support - he is usually privy to information you don't have because he's sees them in training every day. Haggas ran Reverend Jacobs in the Mallard recently and expressed reservations about whether he would stay beforehand - my pedigree analysis led me to believe that he probably would stay and I backed him - he finished 9th and shaped like a non stayer Sad

Would n't knock you for having the courage of your convictions and ignoring the rhetoric about the ground though - won't be backing her myself as I think there is better value elsewhere at the prices.

By:
lewisham ranger
When: 07 Oct 18 15:11
better draw and it would have won! Shocked
By:
roadrunner46
When: 07 Oct 18 15:14

Oct 5, 2018 -- 4:30PM, roadrunner46 wrote:


the way seas of class finished that race at the curragh, was amazing the way it dipped its head on the line,manner of that win was something you dont see very often in top class races like that, with the WFA allowanceentitled to run a very big race, just hope it can battle enable all the way to the line.the horse has a goodchance its still improving. will findout on sunday


like i said that win at the curragh was something very special, that you dont see very often in top class races

By:
Jack Bauer '24'
When: 07 Oct 18 15:23
Lovely filly with a high cruising speed and turn of foot, unfortunately for connections she was beaten by the draw.
By:
Lion King
When: 07 Oct 18 15:27
All about the draw.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 07 Oct 18 20:26
Hope you will be reassessing your opinion of her now Charlton. Mighty run.
By:
Charlton2005
When: 07 Oct 18 21:39
indeed. i was totally wrong and lucky to still be in the game.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 08 Oct 18 10:10
takes a big man to step up and admit he was wrong. wd.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 08 Oct 18 10:49
Yes fair play Charlton. Thought she was definitely going to get there with a couple of hundred yards to go Sad Miraculous performance where you see where she was off the final bend.
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