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By:
impossible123
When: 17 Oct 18 17:44
I think TDH might break with tradition and take in a Derby trial after The 2000G, win or lose, if aspiration for Epsom is heightened as I believe connections will not do a "Ballydoyle" eg Saxon Warrior and Australia.
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 17 Oct 18 18:28
Since when has the 2000 Guineas not been a Derby trial.Cry
By:
Millerracing67
When: 19 Oct 18 18:45
2000gns is one of the best Derby trials.
Time will tell on TDH ?
But atm I don't view him as a Derby horse?
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 10 Apr 19 12:31
1-3 this weekend to kick off his three year old career. fingers crossed he has trained on.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 10 Apr 19 19:20
out of the greenham heat in leg !
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 11 Apr 19 13:38
that might be a negative for the guineas, but positive for the derby. too many runs beforehand could bottom the horse.
By:
impossible123
When: 13 Apr 19 22:43
He's 2/1 fav for the Irish version on 25th May; Epsom Derby is 1st June.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 21 Apr 19 08:57
is it just me or is the family injury prone? I know both his half sisters missed their oaks day through injury. I suppose the blessing in disguise is that the injury has come now, so they have plenty of time to get him ready for targets later.

dante has been mooted, that will tell us a lot about his chances at Epsom. alternatively the irish 2000 guineas is an option, although I doubt that would teach us much about his chances of getting the trip.

I just wonder at the back of my mind if the horse is small, hasn't trained on and they are looking for excuses to retire him. although maybe that's my negative side taking over. Sad
By:
gpz6316
When: 22 Apr 19 22:57
i think he will go dante next and then a decision regarding st james or derby
By:
gpz6316
When: 22 Apr 19 22:57
i think he will go dante next and then a decision regarding st james or derby
By:
impossible123
When: 23 Apr 19 00:24
I think he'll go to the Irish 2000G given Gosden's doubt about his stamina citing So Mi Dar and Lah Ti Dar as examples. Then, St James's follow by the Eclipse and Juddemonte in Aug.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 23 Apr 19 14:37
didn't lah ti dar finish second in a leger? Mischief
By:
gpz6316
When: 23 Apr 19 21:19
i think johnny g will wanna go irish guineas as i,m sure he sees tdh as a miler like i do and given heat in his leg and stamina issues it makes sense  . however , given lloydd webbers dont hold onto colts and hes missing our guineas surely the play is dante
By:
impossible123
When: 23 Apr 19 21:26
I agree, TDH is more likely Irish 2000G bound given the thoughts of Gosden plus 2 weeks later than the Dante; 3/1 is a good price, I believe. Also, I hope the Webbers do not sell TDH to Sheikh Mo.
By:
gpz6316
When: 23 Apr 19 21:33
wtf i do not agree hes going irish , hes going dante
By:
impossible123
When: 23 Apr 19 21:51
Sorry, TDH could forego a win in the Irish 2000G, and go Dante instead just like Roaring Lion. If stamina limitation is exposed there TDH could always revert back to 8f for the St James's, I guess; if not, Epsom beckons, I'dthink.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 07 May 19 13:04
he has been pricewised, so best price 5-1

pretty reasonable price still I feel. next step Dante and hopefully I can get down there and cheer him on as not far from where I live. Cool
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 17 May 19 19:53
well, it was fun while it lasted

just too small really. think if it had grown it would have won yesterday and they'd have been going to Epsom, stamina doubts or not.
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