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Every time I watch Saxon Warrior's run in the Guineas, he looks more like a sprinter than a middle-distance performer. He travels like a bull, quickens decisively between the three- and two poles, and is being closed down by Tip Two Win as the post looms.
For me, every yard he goes beyond a mile makes him an inferior horse and every yard he goes back from a mile will make him a better horse. You couldn't look at the Guineas and how and where he quickened and think - if you weren't looking at his genes - that he could be better for a further test of his stamina. |
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A bit more ££ interest on Lion at 4.2 for me, little bit surprised he's going out the way?
Gd luck with your plays lads. Cracking race, just hope they don't make it a crawl?? |
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An intriguing race in prospect nevertheless, unless Saxon Warrior has not been inconvenienced by the bug in his yard, and the run in The Eclipse was a fraction too soon after his exertion in the Irish Derby just a week prior, I think, this will rest between Poets Word and Roaring Lion - both 10f specialists to me. But the deciding factor could be that 7lbs wfa to the younger runner; Latrobe looks the most likely to pace-set, I think or I hope.
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Nice to see the money coming for Benbatl, 12s into 8s now
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I’ll be very disappointed if the winner doesn’t come from the first three in the market.
RL has had the perfect prep and is becoming tempting e/w at 3/1+. |
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An emphatic win for Roaring Lion - a champion 10f horse no doubt. Saxon Warrior had every chance; Poets Word was a little unlucky being boxed in, but the result was never in doubt once Roaring Lion had taken it up even if Poets Word had had a clear run.
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I enjoyed that :-) Back pain!!! What back pain :-) lol.
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Andrew in Sweden 13 Aug 18 21:19
Anyone want to lay Roaring Lion at better odds than the general 3/1 bookmakers price ? I would back it tomorrow if so (you then have the NR advantage). ![]() |
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Have they overdone the watering at York?? Looks very loose on top? Everyone charging to the stands side ??
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Did the same when Frankel won it
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Ever since they relaid the track about 10 years ago they have come centre to stands side - always used to stay on the rails before that and it was a huge advantage to be drawn low on the round course.
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The winning times for this race and The Great Voltigeur were below standard despite no prisoner was taken at the off.
Roaring Lion, if running in the Irish and/or Ascot Champion Stakes, and on good/good to firm ground will take a lot of beating regardless of opposition. Gosden has indicated the horse will run even on good to soft ground, but not soft. |
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Well done RL backers. Backed him for the Derby but haven't touched him since
. Looks a below standard winning performance to me, but with the way he won and the shortage of good horses this season it would be no surprise to see him go in again. |
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ya shame he didnt quite stay in the derby as i fancied him myself and highlighted his chance . anyhow keep looking the next winner is just around the corner .
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the way the track is riding is a little odd, it seemed to be recently that the golden highway was about 3/4 of the way across from the stands side, and in the sprints that favoured horses drawn low. But recently this seems to have changed back to what it was 5 or 6 years ago when the stands side was the place to be
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I think it had more to do with soumillion where the horses went. But as an aside, today's daily mirror indicated that horses drawn low on the starlight course held sway...be interesting to see if a jockey goes up the rail on the turn tomorrow. My memory fades, but when Ascot was transferred to York, which year I don't know, but didn't we get some strange results for the Royal meeting?
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I think you have a valid point for the winning time above standard despite a decent pace set from the off; a longer and unconventional taken by Soumillon on Thunder Snow looked the likeliest reason.
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