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12 Nov 16 17:27
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Two Taffs - 12/1
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Report The Dragon November 14, 2016 6:59 PM GMT
and the reasoning is...................
Report Facts November 14, 2016 7:19 PM GMT
It meets my system requirements.
Report cvbyrne. November 14, 2016 8:45 PM GMT
I thought Born Survivor would be shorter. Any word if he skips race or something?

Have him backed along with Kruzhlinin. Westren Warrior also interesting
Report luckyme November 14, 2016 11:50 PM GMT
16 ran in it last year, anyone know the number of runners allowed this year.
Report IrisDeBalme November 15, 2016 7:20 AM GMT
I instinctively backed Two Taffs after I saw your post Facts, and the with the added value Skeltons won the big hurdle on Sunday  - managed to get 8's.

Having said that I do get a bit nervous as he has another runner Born Survivor 12/1... you did see how many runners he started with in the Greatwood Hurdle and how many he ended up with?

But quite happy to side with him in this race. 

Fingers crossed one of the two turn up


Good Luck
Report shockster November 15, 2016 9:56 AM GMT
Born Survivor is more likely to go to the Hennessy meeting the following week according to Dan Skelton on ATR last night.
Report IrisDeBalme November 15, 2016 8:03 PM GMT
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Report IrisDeBalme November 15, 2016 8:06 PM GMT
Thanks Shockster - glad I posted - you responded and I read :)

So bet on CAID DE BERLAIS 9/1 instead - been bitten by this horse when he didn't turn up in the BetVictor Gold Cup - think he is well handicapped with a claimer on board has a serious good chance.

Albeit Nicholls hasn't won a big Saturday handicap yet - bit tentative with my selection - but surely based on last season form should have a shout in a race like this?
Report shockster November 15, 2016 8:48 PM GMT
As it stands at the minute, the one i like is another Nicholls horse.  Mr Mix  can see it coming on for the Chepstow run and going close. 12's looks fair.
Report IrisDeBalme November 16, 2016 9:10 PM GMT
Anyone know if AFFAIR DHONNEUR turning up see him cut from 25's (but still available) - had a favourable mention in the Weekender this morning, he is on 10st-1, came 4th in Betfair hurdle 4lbs higher...

Not sure he will make the cut - but if he does surely he is value under that weight?
Report duffy November 16, 2016 11:48 PM GMT
MR MIX for me, was starting to stay on in the martin pipe when coming down and ran a really promising race in the silver trophy first run back, the key is the extra distance which he is crying out for and that big long straight.
Report luckyme November 17, 2016 11:54 AM GMT
Iris

posted lastweek on a website I visit,

Affaire D'honneur, 25/1 Brush hurdle, Haydock.

Anyone remember this horse in the betfair hurdle at Newbury last year, racingpost comments say....

Behind, headway on inside 3 out, stayed on well closing stages, never nearer.

Try this, horse standing sideways when starter let them go, lost about 10L, jockey took forever to put him in the race, finally storming home two out, the jockey thinks to himself, Can't wait for the brush hurdle at Haydock next year, I hope it's soft or heavy
Report shockster November 17, 2016 3:23 PM GMT
Mr Mix taken out then. Typical.
Report Can't Catch Me November 17, 2016 3:29 PM GMT
Well done on the 12/1 Facts, looks good now!

Another Affaire d'Honneur backer signing in. Just taken the 14/1. Think this will be a real war of attrition and that should suit him. He's very well in with Two Taffs on their run at Kempton last Christmas, and although I think he might not have the class to quite win this, and the trainers early season form worries me a bit, I think he's a very solid ew bet off this mark in these conditions.
Report Facts November 17, 2016 4:36 PM GMT
Thanks. Still has to win though !
Report IrisDeBalme November 17, 2016 9:06 PM GMT
to be fair from 12s to 4s is pretty good value - so win win from ante-post perspective...

But as you rightly say - they still have to win... that's the frustrating bit...

But actually looks fiercely competitive...

Anyway, my main bet is AFFAIR DHONNEUR 14s now - Havent been doing well since start of jumps (for ante-post) - hoping this will change fortunes.

Good Luck
Report IrisDeBalme November 17, 2016 9:09 PM GMT
Actually Luckyme

Sorry didn't see you post - read it now... :)

yeah remember now how frustrating that race was - I backed him then to win... and came up short... because he was left 10 lengths behind... trainer did have him primed for that run - but things went dreadfully bad from the start.  His 4th place looks even better now.

On the same racing weight - hope redemption comes round for him...
Report Alices November 17, 2016 10:06 PM GMT
I like the chance of Ballybolley, certainly fit after his recent runs over fences, 8lb lower taking into account  Bargarys claim, he's riding well and hurdles may suit better.
3 out of the top 4 in the handicap haven't had a run this season and Two Taffs didn't impress me at Carlisle, Caid du Berlais is a danger but may be a bridle horse, just a little concerned the ground may be too soft but at 16/1 it's a risk worth taking.
Report Autocue November 18, 2016 4:05 PM GMT
I'll put up Theo's Charm, currently 14.5 on here. Nicely weighted on form against Two Taffs, I particularly liked the way he splashed through Plumpton ground that looked similar to Haydock today, to win by a distance. His form tailed off at the end of last season but his trainer was going through a desperate spell. Considered good enough to run in the Festival bumper (seventh to Moon Racer beaten nine and a quarter lengths) he wears first time cheek pieces and Wayne Hutchinson has been booked.
Report Facts November 18, 2016 4:28 PM GMT
Because of the prevailing ground ( and a very astute trainer), I've been tempted to add Westren Warrior ( 8/1 BOG) to be my second bet in this race.
Good luck all.
Report brendrew November 18, 2016 7:57 PM GMT
yala enka(5th last year when fav-hopefully will front run)+ballybolley e/w for me.
Report nocturnal November 18, 2016 10:40 PM GMT
Just occasionally you see a really competitive handicap at the early entry stage,,and just the one horse stands out,whatever the reason,for me its rare.


From the cheltenham pertemps qualifier oct 22nd,there were at least 4 horses who finnished in the ruck,who ran much better than the bare form suggests.

Anteros bolted up last week,but the horse who travelled just as well,Westren Warrior, goes tomorrow in this race, with conditions that look ideal.

All his best form screams out he wants soft ground and a test of stamina,both of which he will get tomorrow.The jockey tried his upmost to keep him out of the frame at HQ,choosing the worst of the ground on the far side,up the home straight.

Like all things in racing there has to be a negative,the booking of Emlyn can temper the most enthusiastic of punters,he,s the **** of the north for a reason,if he can resist the showboating til after the line,that should be good enough.

The two down the bottom with first time headgear are interesting,this will be a real stamina test,both have nice racing weights.

GL ALL.
Report ReaseHeath November 18, 2016 10:52 PM GMT
Yep, I clocked the Anteros form line too, noc - Westren Warrior was 6th - think they still have that rule where you have to finish in the first six in the Pertemps qualifier to qualify for the final?

Stable is in good form too, he'll be my bet in this.
Report deepingfox November 18, 2016 11:14 PM GMT
Noc, just watched back the Cheltenham video of Westren Warriors Pertemps run, he wasn't put in the race, and wasn't beaten far. He loves soft ground, so if he takes to the baby jumps he could be a big player.
Report nocturnal November 19, 2016 12:14 AM GMT
Strangled deepingfox,Rease may have the answer,he was counting how many were in front.

That was my understanding RH,first 6 home to qualify,joke really.

If racing had any pretentions to encourage trainers,this series of qualifiers could be the ideal starting point,
as it stands you can run your horse down the pan,and even out the frame,they can easily qualify.

Racing remains stagnant to many,here is a chance to offer a bonus to qualifier winners,make it first 3 home to qualify,cut the penalty for qualifiers in the final,automatic entry to cheltenham should you win a qualifier.

At present the races are a means to an end,just a thought.
Report Giddy November 19, 2016 2:08 AM GMT
Theo's Charm here also. Autocue has already put this one up and I agree with his comments
Report GI MAC November 19, 2016 7:32 AM GMT
Young progressive types have been winning this in recent years, but this will be the first renewal ran on heavy ground for a good number of years; which invariably throws up surpriing results. Based on this I've sided with Rathpatrick at a price, suited by todays conditions.
Report FELTFAIR November 19, 2016 12:36 PM GMT
Fancied Caid du Berlais, Yala Enki and Theo`s Charm.

Backed Caid Du Berlais and Theo`s Charm each way,4 places.Sadly didn`t take the 27 on offer on Monday Theo`s.
Report Facts November 19, 2016 2:37 PM GMT
Got that all wrong then !!

Well done cvbryne. Well tipped.
Report Autocue November 19, 2016 3:45 PM GMT
Inspired early selection cvbyrne. Johnson's one of those jockeys who chins me when I don't back him and chins me again when I do (Coneygree). That was a real slugfest up the straight.
Report nocturnal November 19, 2016 6:15 PM GMT
Well done CVB.......not sure he would go on that ground,ran on really well,gutsy display.

Westren Warrior travelled ok to final bend,beaten fair and square on the day.

On to Newbury,great meeting on a lovely track.
Report IrisDeBalme November 19, 2016 10:05 PM GMT
yeap well done CVB

also well done to Paul Keally in the Weekender tipped this horse - was 25s (I think on Tuesday... and 20s-->16s Wednesday...

Shame about Affair Dhonneur - run was appalling...
Report Facts November 20, 2016 12:15 AM GMT
Two Taffs wasn't much better tbh Sad
Report sageform November 20, 2016 7:27 AM GMT
The going found out a lot of horses at Haydock. Older horses tend to handle heavy better than young ones and Kruzhlinin and Cue Card reinforced that view. Ch'tibello very impressive though for a less experienced horse.
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