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Coronation Stakes.

Tascro

10 Jun 16 05:35

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Is ballydoyle going here for sure does anyone know? I think Qemah at 10s is a huge price. Very surprised if shes not in the first 3. Has very little to find on ratings. Was very free in French 1000 last time. Was only beaten 1 1/4 lengths by ballydoyle in prix marcel boussac last year. She should settle better in coronation as hopefully be a strong pace and going around a bend will suit.

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sintonian When: 10 Jun 16 12:34

Ive backed her too. She was far too keen lto and worth another chance. Ballydoyle runs btw.

trainer has excellent record in race too...Ervedya '15 & LessTalkinparis '15

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Can't Catch Me When: 10 Jun 16 13:30

Had a good study of this race the other day and decided it was one to avoid! Hard to split Qemah and Nathra on their running in the French Guineas... Ballydoyle has the best form and if over her problems and 100% she will win win imo, but Nemoralia could be anything and thought she she should have won the Breeders Cup race last season. She was also very impressive at York first time up. She would have been my bet but not at that price.

Really tough heat and wouldnt be surprised if 4 or 5 of them won. Good luck with yours.

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impossible123 When: 10 Jun 16 17:45

I think if the ground is good or better Ballydoyle is the one. However, if it's soft or worse, I'll go with Jet Setting to prove her victory over Minding in the Irish 1000G was no fluke.

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FELTFAIR When: 10 Jun 16 18:36

Backed Ballydoyle.

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impossible123 When: 11 Jun 16 14:35

Jet setting is for sale in the Goffs on 13th just prior to Royal Ascot; she cost her owners 12k guineas, and the last Classic Oaks winner fetched 6m euros. What will Jet Setting fetch? At least 500k euros? Still many multiples of outlay - what a shrewd purchase!

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sintonian When: 11 Jun 16 14:49

Ballydoyle will want quick ground.

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ffs When: 11 Jun 16 19:23

Jet Setting great value at 5s still imo, she's absolutely a one-trick pony but she's lucked .

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ffs When: 11 Jun 16 19:26

Also, the lucky owners, imo, will be banking an extra 100% profit on the potential sale price because owners who want to buy a winner will get no clearer chance of a ready-made Group 1 winner to run at the Royal festival.

I think Jet Setting is fav material.

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unclepuncle When: 11 Jun 16 19:33

Think the French horsec is the value.

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impossible123 When: 11 Jun 16 21:49

Jet Setting's (JS) victory over Minding has yet to be lauded the same recognition as any other Classic winner despite the 3rd horse home was a distance behind her and Minding; Nemoralia, as hinted by trainer, might wait for another day if the ground is soft; Ballydoyle, a late confirmed runner for the English 1000G because of the softish ground (good to soft), in my opinion is not a certain runner if the likelihood of even softer ground at Ascot next week (light showers at the moment) prevails.

If Minding was running she'd be odds-on so why is JS still available at 5/1 or more with the uncertainties concerning the two market leaders? JS is value, in my book unless her victory over Minding was a fluke but I don't think so.

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ffs When: 11 Jun 16 22:27

Jun 11, 2016 -- 9:49PM, impossible123 wrote:

Jet Setting's (JS) victory over Minding has yet to be lauded the same recognition as any other Classic winner despite the 3rd horse home was a distance behind her and Minding; Nemoralia, as hinted by trainer, might wait for another day if the ground is soft; Ballydoyle, a late confirmed runner for the English 1000G because of the softish ground (good to soft), in my opinion is not a certain runner if the likelihood of even softer ground at Ascot next week (light showers at the moment) prevails. If Minding was running she'd be odds-on so why is JS still available at 5/1 or more with the uncertainties concerning the two market leaders? JS is value, in my book unless her victory over Minding was a fluke but I don't think so.

I don't think there was any fluke about it - Minding has never run a bad race in her life, you could set your clock by her - ok, she may not have been brilliantly suited by the conditions but she does in general handle the ground, and she had just run a tremendous 1000G and followed up her Irish race with a v good Oaks, ... so yes JS should be taken v seriously

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sintonian When: 12 Jun 16 08:35

Minding used the Irish Guineas as her final piece of work before Epsom, she would not have been fully fit.

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sintonian When: 12 Jun 16 08:35

Minding used the Irish Guineas as her final piece of work before Epsom, she would not have been fully fit.

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impossible123 When: 12 Jun 16 10:57

Minding might not have been fully wound up for the Irish 1000g nonetheless Jet Setting (JS) enhanced her superiority over Now Or Never by an additional 7l in the race. Also, JS beat Alice Spring by 5.75l prir to the English 1000G, and a price of 5/1 does not do her justice especially on anticipated softish ground at Ascot next friday.

Ballydoyle is an exceptional filly but only on good/firm ground.

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knavesmire007 When: 12 Jun 16 11:33

Take a close look at how Jet Setting came down the dip in the English 1000 guineas.Changed legs umpteen times,hated it.Ignore that form and look at the form around it.Shes the one to beat,should be half the odds.I'd like good to softish going for insurance.

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impossible123 When: 12 Jun 16 18:59

ATB has warned if ground is soft Ballydoyle would not run.

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Boxman When: 13 Jun 16 10:27

Jet Setting to go off quite short from where he is now IMO come friday

I doubt Ballydoyle will run and Jet Setting was very impressive in the soft against Minding recently

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Fashion Fever When: 13 Jun 16 13:15

what price jet setting to be wearing quatar colours friday

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impossible123 When: 13 Jun 16 15:28

I think Jet Setting could be in the ownership of Al Shaqab, Qatar or Godolphin by friday.

If Jet Setting was trained by AOB, Gosden or Stoute she'd be even money in the absence of Ballydoyle, I imagine.

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ffs When: 13 Jun 16 20:29

1,3mio to China Horse Club

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sintonian When: 13 Jun 16 20:32

I cant have Jet Setting at all so backed Qemah again ew at 7/1.

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impossible123 When: 13 Jun 16 22:22

£1.3m? What a return for £12k - very well done! I'd have done the same given similar position.

Jet Setting has an outstanding chance in bottomless ground, with or without Ballydoyle, the main danger being Fireglow, I think.

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impossible123 When: 15 Jun 16 11:05

Ballydoyle has not been declared according to Sporting Life but Nemoralia is.

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impossible123 When: 28 Jun 16 14:17

A respiratory infection had been blamed for the below par performance of Jet Setting in the Coronation Stakes at Ascot. next race could be The Matron in September in Ireland.