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Disappointed too as the the price of my main selection Zand is no way near what I was hoping it would be about a few days ago. Hoped to get it somewhere in the 20's. Might have to half my stakes with another I fancy.
Only Orsenfoolsies (25/1 at corals right now) tracked Argus all the way last time at Doncaster and lost nothing in the finish, ending up a close forth. That piece of form alone makes it a good bet for me at the price. Hasn't gone up in weight either for that run and add a 7lb claimer on board tomorrow and the argument gets even more convincing. Drawn in stall 14 which shouldn't be an issue and the soft ground and distance gives me even more confidence. When the horse has run on going with at least soft in the description and a minimum distance of 11 furlongs the form reads 41214. No concern either should the going be heavy as it has placed form on that type of ground as well as winning hurdles form. It maybe more of an in running bet though, as it's 4 wins over flats have been when it has made all the running. Worth keeping an eye on as it looks a really good bet. |
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He doesn't need to front turn so don't let that put you off in-running. I wouldn't want him too actually. A handy sit 3rd, 4th or 5th, wide, will do very nicely.
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20 odd runs over flats and its never won when it hasn't made all. I'd be much happier to see it up there
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I see you backed it too. I think me seeing you mention it a few days ago made it stick in my head and have a closer look at it today. If it wins then I got you to thank. Good luck!
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gutted the seamour price is gone, was hoping for 10/1 5 places sat morning, will do deffo go off fav
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Best of luck, dibdob. Orsen must be one of the only horses in training who doesn't owe me. Luv him. For clarity, I won't him up there too....just not sure makign all is the way to go.
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"won't" = "want"
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agree dyno layer he could be up there...thx for contributing to the thread
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quite like the balding horse here, seems to fit a lot of the trends.
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Not keen on the race and will only back one horse,Cousin Khee each way. Will be mildy annoyed if Manhattan Swing or Barwick make the frame.
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Interesting runner giantstepsahead right at bottom of weights got a good draw and a top lightweight jockey on board looking at form won on soft with 9st 13lb on back at newmarket although in lot lesser race only negative not run for some but worth a each way punt at 33-1
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Whats interesting about this race more than any other handicap run on the flat this summer is that i think everyone that has contributed to this thread has put up a different horse
with a reason to back it! |
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it does look a total minefield, I could back about 8 of them, has anyone mentioned Manhattan Swing yet? I give it a sneak at 33/1
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yeah I think the ground makes it an imponderable with the added fact most of the horses have a bad run to their name but are very capable on the day...
Having said that, I think the 'real' market will unfold before the race and I'm sure something will get gambled on... and maybe bring some clear water to the proceedings? |
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I have the bloob on my thread
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Seamour will relish the going and has class to go with his stamina. Has the ability to take this.
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GROUP runners don't normally win this race, and it's had quite a break
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Yep. It's got no chance. Rumour has it Pricewise has tipped it up. Ffs
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Woohoo - Litigant - gtfi. Biggest winner of Flat seaon for me, in the last big race of the season. Amazing price. Couldn't believe he was trading on BF over 20. You start to wonder if his leg has fallen off but had to go in again
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Litigant wins
Only second Top weight to win since 1998 ( Yavanna's Pace) Also the first 7yo to win since ?? my records go back 34 years |
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Well done Johnny. Saw the money coming in for Litigant, but didnt follow. Had no clue how it would handle the ground.
Callum Shepherd riding 3lbs overweight cost me some decent place money, not happy! |
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Very well done Johnny ! Litigant proved - that on his day, given the right conditions - he's a class act. And a shed load of money for him near the off too !
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Thanks chaps. Been a tough old Flat season in the main but came good for me in the autumn having backed Grumeti in Ces, Energia Davos in Darley Stakes and Litigant today.
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won with a bit in and group1 horse well done Johnny hard one to pick
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yeah well done winners ... what a decent horse litigant is...
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2nd and 3rd(ew) for me didnt cover my stakes though
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Fantastic call on Litigant. Couldn't have backed it with borrowed money, just didn't fancy it at all.
Won a few quid with Mistiroc so not complaining and Withernsea did me a big favour. Feel quite sad the flat season is over ![]() Roll on March ![]() |
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dreadful run from seamour, gather he was stuck in the mud there
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usually not G. Lee's greatest fan but thought he rode a cracking race for a place
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Well done winners, can't believe i didn't have even a shilling on him
after backing (mistakenly admittedly) TWICE at 40s in the ebor closest my lot came to was 2nd 4th and 5th but cost me a small fortune. |
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I agree Iris, shame Latenightrequest didn't get in. The way it ran in the listed fillies race, where it 12lb worse off with the winner than it would have been in a handicap, it would surely have gone close over 2 furlongs further in the handicap. Like you, I got my money back
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excellent performance by Litigant to win like that giving so much weight. Going to be an interesting runner in the 1m 4f to 2m Group races next season, especially when the ground comes up Soft
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