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31 Aug 15 20:39
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An Olympian ...great sportswoman but a dreadful dancer.  Normally id laugh at someone taking up such a challenge but there is no laughing matter about Victoria Pendleton as she proved today on the 14/1 shot short head.  That start is what she needs ... not a fairy tale win... she needs to understand that the uncertainty of how a race unfolds, the element of timing and the most important bit - knowing your horse.  Mix those ingredients and a bit of luck you can get a horse over the line.

That second will sit with her for months... as she will pick out the lessons learnt from it... and she will train as hard as ever... as she is the most committed athlete you will get.  No disrespect to jockeys but not many will be able to match her fitness, for her a lot will depend on horseman skills and today there is no argument she is progressing.. 6 months away think she will be tighter .. lower and more astute than she is now, as her learning is definitely not complete, but she is much further progressed than I could have imagined.

If she continues to progress and she catches the attention of a trainer who has prepared a horse specifically for the race in mind then 66/1 to win Foxhunters at betfreds is worth a bet, I'm sure some trainers would love to snap her up for the big day and wont be surprised if she is on a leading fancy... and the big picture is it will be a massive boost for racing.

Good Luck Victoria.
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Report Facts September 1, 2015 12:18 AM BST
Very good write up - and I concur. Thought I'd see what limit BFred were imposing on the 66/1 offer. £15 was the max they would accept Sad
Report polo minx September 1, 2015 9:23 AM BST
Report polo minx September 1, 2015 9:23 AM BST
Report sageform September 1, 2015 10:42 AM BST
Riding well in a flat race is one thing, getting round Aintree quite another. Like getting off a track bike and on to a Mountain bike.
Report polo minx September 1, 2015 10:55 AM BST
Report Facts September 1, 2015 11:27 AM BST
Report Autocue September 1, 2015 8:57 PM BST
Seems to me she's a publicity seeker. Joining Strictly despite being a garbage dancer showed her desperation and this foxhunter aim seems like more of the same.
Report PJay September 1, 2015 11:57 PM BST
Didn't she say she that she was worried about falling off in the dips the other day?

I'd nearly pay you the winnings myself if she won this.
Report PeteTheBloke September 2, 2015 1:36 PM BST
Publicity seeker? No way.
Report IrisDeBalme September 2, 2015 5:26 PM BST
Corals offering 6/4

Victoria Pendleton to ride in the 2016 Cheltenham Festival Foxhunter Chase

Worth covering your win stake with this... I cant imagine her not racing in the Foxhunters.
Report Autocue September 2, 2015 5:54 PM BST
That's a better bet than backing her to win.
Report Benjy September 2, 2015 6:11 PM BST
No it's not, assuming her mount goes off 25/1 or under...

I'd want 5s for her to ride though tbh. Only 6 months away.
Report sageform September 3, 2015 7:37 AM BST
Sorry, the string was just entitled Foxhunters. I didn't know which one she was aiming for when I replied about Aintree. My comments would be the same for Cheltenham.
Report PJay October 27, 2015 1:05 PM GMT
Falling off in her latest flat race won't have been ideal.
Report Eeternaloptimist October 27, 2015 5:48 PM GMT
If she auctions off her saddle I'll bid. Silly
Report PJay January 18, 2016 4:49 PM GMT
Bit of a result to 66/1 backers that Pacha Du Polder has been made available to her.
Report sageform January 19, 2016 8:18 AM GMT
Very nice price now if anyone had the courage to take it. Still a very big ask against the best amateurs and if Long Run turns up fit and well he should laugh at them.
Report mrtopnotch January 19, 2016 11:08 AM GMT
Should be 66/1 to get over the first or at least to complete.
Report Facts January 19, 2016 9:28 PM GMT
^ why ?
Report koikeeper January 20, 2016 6:28 PM GMT
sageform 19 Jan 16 08:18
Very nice price now if anyone had the courage to take it. Still a very big ask against the best amateurs and if Long Run turns up fit and well he should laugh at them.

Long Run has to qualify 1st, hasnt got long to fit 2 races in, 3 if anything goes wrong and they dont want to run it on heavy ground.
Report Facts January 25, 2016 1:07 AM GMT
Long Run a non runner at Cheltenham.
Report SEATHESTARS....NO1 January 27, 2016 11:05 PM GMT
Dropping like flies in this race aren't they. Given that there will be a max field, is it 18? How many of them will actually have a chance of a place? And given that Pendleton has been promised a more than capable horse in Pacha Du Polder as long as the partnership continues then the 10/1 to finish in the first 3 and 33/1 for the win by koral last week is proving to be massive never mind the 66s you lot got last summer Tongue Out
Report koikeeper January 28, 2016 7:20 PM GMT
Will PDP stay, I have my doubts and is VP strong enough to last the distance, I also have my doubts...
Report SEATHESTARS....NO1 January 29, 2016 2:43 PM GMT
I don't know koikeeper, but 33s the win and 10s the first 3 was too big seeing as the horse is only 25s. I don't have any doubts VPTongue OutLove can last the distance, however the horse is a different matter Whoops
Report koikeeper January 29, 2016 5:10 PM GMT
She has looked weak imo and they reckon she needs at lead another 10 rides before chelt, hopefully one in a Hunter Chase.

Pacha du Polder runs on Sunday at South dorset P2P in the Ladies Open
Report SEATHESTARS....NO1 January 29, 2016 8:35 PM GMT
Well they have said that she rides the horse on each race before the fez. Whether she gets anymore though remains to be seen.
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 4:56 PM GMT
PDP finished 2nd in the ladies Open.
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 31, 2016 8:04 PM GMT
Beaten by whom ?
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 8:12 PM GMT
1    Queens Bay (GB) 5/4       Miss B. Frost
2    Pacha du Polder (FR) 5/2  Ms V. Pendleton
3    Terra Bleu (IRE) 50/1     Miss A. Goschen

Winning Trainer    Jack Barber
Winning Owner    Mr Robert & Mrs Lucy Dickinson
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 31, 2016 8:33 PM GMT
many thanks koi.

Always had PDP as 2m6f horse.
Report SEATHESTARS....NO1 January 31, 2016 10:56 PM GMT
I wouldn't crab its last run under rules personally. 10 lengths behind Moroman and Paint the Clouds who if am not mistaken was sent off fav' for last years foxhuntersConfused

That race was 3m 3f, just a 1f shorter than the foxhunters at the fez, no i think if you have bagged any of them special bets i.e the 33/1 for the win and 10/1 to finish in the first three think you got a nice bet there given the all likelyhood of VP being offered a fair few rides between now and the fez for experience and the trainer (being close to Nichols ahem) is a good thing imo.

Can't see PDP winning or beating On the Fringe, but if a scrap for the minor placings ensues as is often the case in this race, PDP am sure wont be too far away from it especially with the likes of Long Run and Prince de Beauchene non runners
Report kenco February 19, 2016 4:22 PM GMT
Report betilyerded February 19, 2016 4:51 PM GMT

Im not involved in this and do think its a bit (?) of a publicity stunt but have to say she was unlucky and got clattered by the other horse. Takes some bottle to ride in a NH race and whilst I think for her own safety she should steer clear of Cheltenham she has the ability to win one of these on the right horse.
Report PJay February 20, 2016 12:36 AM GMT
The jockeys she would be up against at Cheltenham would have sat on that betilyerded. I'm all for her and what she's doing and think it's a positive for the sport but I just can't see how they could let her ride at the Festival. It's the 20th February and that was her only ride under rules. Next year maybe.
Report Facts February 20, 2016 3:24 AM GMT
Are there any qualifying rules relating to the amateurs jockeys wishing to take part in the Foxhunters ?
Report PJay February 20, 2016 10:47 AM GMT

"It was just an unfortunate incident. She got unseated and that's happened to us all. She's got to look at it and learn from it and gain experience. She is a novice rider and has done very well in a short time, but she's got to keep on learning. I think the team will have a look at it and it's a possibility we might find another hunter chase for Pacha in ten days' time and she needs a clear round to get to Cheltenham. She'll learn from and it was just an unfortunate incident.
"I'd be lying if I said I was reasonably happy and she'd probably say the same because you don't want an incident like yesterday going to Cheltenham. I do think we need to run again somewhere and get a clear round. Pacha could go to Wincanton and if we can get everything to go right, fine. Between us all we're going to sit down and have a talk about it and make sure we do the right thing and I'm well aware of that. If she can get a nice clear round then we'll be back on track."
Report betilyerded February 20, 2016 11:52 AM GMT
Youre right Pjay but thats my point. I think its easy for us sat at home to say the things that have been said about her and basically slag her and take the p**s.
I dont think she is capable of getting around Cheltenham never mind be involved. I always think they go a million miles an hour in the Foxhunters as half of them have no control over their mounts so it would be a seat of the pants job.

I do, however, think she is competent enough to win a race such as that one yesterday with a clear round. Its hypothesising to say who would and who wouldnt have stayed on the horse yesterday but some possibly would, many wouldnt.

Be interesting to see how she gets on at Wincanton as it would appear to be last chance saloon for her there.
Report PJay February 20, 2016 1:38 PM GMT
"I dont think she is capable of getting around Cheltenham."

And for that reason she shouldn't be let ride there betilyerded. It's no disaster if she doesn't make it. It shows how difficult a job it is. Put her in front of the Channel 4 cameras telling the public how hard it is. Let her come back next year. She loves what she's doing and it looks like she is very keen to keep doing it.

And I'm not slagging her or taking the piss. Racing is a closed door too often. Try anything new and it will be condemned, despite the sport slowly but surely eroding. I welcome what she's doing and think it's a great idea. It's a pity she didn't get a weekly diary or something in one of the main newspapers to spread the word further. Racing is losing it's connection with the public and anything like this can only be a plus.
Report Facts February 20, 2016 2:39 PM GMT
Report Autocue February 20, 2016 4:27 PM GMT
Publicity seeker who looks as poor riding a horse as she did on the dance floor.
Report Facts February 21, 2016 2:57 AM GMT
Ridiculous post.
Report betilyerded February 21, 2016 9:01 AM GMT
I wasnt suggesting you were taking the piss Pjay but many others are on other threads. My initial post was in response to the ROFL post by Kenco which is pointless. The rear view camera shows the other horse's hind leg kicked her foot out of the stirrup - bet it was feckin sore more than anything else.

See Smith Eccles has come out and said pretty much the same as we are in that she should wait a year. Im not sure her sponsors would agree and probably not Pendleton herself (as she proabably has something else lined up in a jungle somewhere!)

Lets see what happens next week Scared
Report Autocue February 21, 2016 11:26 AM GMT
It's a publicity stunt waiting to backfire. The media are pushing her into riding at Cheltenham and presumably she's taking the bookies' money to do it. It's up to her what she does as it's her neck on the line and she's the one putting herself at risk of breaking it. I've got nothing against her but if anything goes wrong it's her own fault for getting involved in all this media cr@p. Racing will do anything for publicity nowadays.
Report Facts February 21, 2016 2:45 PM GMT
You seem to be suggesting she has no choice and she's being forced into this. I can assure you, VP is a very confident,self assured and ' driven' young lady. She is very committed to what she does and is a ' winner ' .
I'm sure she's well aware of her abilities and the risks involved in what she's undertaking.
I for one, admire her and wish her well in her endeavours.
Report maleuk01. February 21, 2016 10:26 PM GMT
She isn't upto the standard yet to go round at Cheltenham.

The unseat in the last race was pretty poor and she should have been able to stay on its back.

But there's always next year if she puts the graft in and gains a lot more experience in P2P and lower level foxhunter chase's.
Report polo minx February 22, 2016 10:37 AM GMT
Will she ever even win a point?
Report Facts February 22, 2016 12:15 PM GMT
I'm sure she will
Report Facts March 4, 2016 8:13 AM GMT
With a win now under her belt, I hope she takes her chance in the FoxhuntersHappy
Report PJay March 5, 2016 3:05 PM GMT
Falling off today on the flat in a PtP won't have helped.
Report sintonian March 5, 2016 8:32 PM GMT
Sorry but I still agree with John Francome when he says she is an accident waiting to happen.
Report roobuck March 5, 2016 9:04 PM GMT
She has done brilliantly but needs to wait a year. A positive story for racing
Report tim6 March 5, 2016 10:12 PM GMT
think the same as John Francome and Sint, jockeys are born and bred into their sport. Racing if you don't know what you are doing is a very dangerous sport. Hope she will be ok and the press are delighted just hope she dosen't get injured.
Report dunlaying March 6, 2016 12:53 PM GMT
It is reported on the other side that the lady fell off again. If true I would expect a sensible chap like Paul Nicholls to pull the plug on the venture. I certainly hope so.
Report SEATHESTARS....NO1 March 7, 2016 11:58 AM GMT
She is allowed to take her chance at Cheltenham

SL website just now

Personally think its a great decision!
Report Facts March 7, 2016 2:04 PM GMT
Me too.
Report kincsem March 7, 2016 3:35 PM GMT
That theory that you need to put in 10,000 hours to be good at anything - she needs about 9,900 hours more.
Report Facts March 7, 2016 4:21 PM GMT
She's been learning/preparing for a year. Methinks she's put a fair few hours in !
Report Facts March 7, 2016 4:23 PM GMT
Good job that 10,000 hour stat was ignored for the pilots in the 2 world wars ! I think a couple of hours learning the ropes , and they were away.
Report mrtopnotch March 7, 2016 4:59 PM GMT
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Should be 66/1 to get over the first or at least to complete.

I stand by this comment I made on the 21st JanCool
Report Facts March 8, 2016 6:13 PM GMT
You'll be laying then !
Report inrunninggg March 9, 2016 6:02 PM GMT
place lay will pay for my cheltenham
Report Facts March 10, 2016 3:37 PM GMT
Go mad - splash out , put £4 on Laugh
Report betilyerded March 14, 2016 2:55 PM GMT
I think what we are all missing is the fact that the OP put this up at 66-1 and her mount is now a general 16-1 shot.

So if nothing else well done and I hope you get a good run for your money.
Report PJay March 18, 2016 4:20 PM GMT
Full credit to her.
Report kincsem March 18, 2016 4:39 PM GMT
That was a very good performance.
She did much better that I expected.
Report betilyerded March 18, 2016 7:25 PM GMT
Bloody good effort and could easily have run into a place. Im not particularly a fan of hers but you cant fault the effort and commitment so a big well done to her and Iris should feel a little unlucky that she wasnt in the money.
Report nocturnal March 18, 2016 7:33 PM GMT
As someone against the idea,credit where due,that was a stunning effort,very well ridden.

There are quite a few jocks that could learn from that,giving the horse time to settle,amazing how well it jumped and travelled,food for thought if some horses were left alone, for just a little longer.
Report IrisDeBalme March 19, 2016 12:07 AM GMT
Thanks Bertyl for your comments...

Massive shame there was no fairytale ending  - but in reality when looking at the ride I do feel it was a bit too safe... She was careful ... She wanted to get round ... And past events clearly playing on her mind   ...

I think the journey she took was amazing - the pressure she faced must have been enormous and the barrage of criticism was unfair and in the end she probably took the right approach...

But to achieve what she has achieved in one season is phenomenal - I think she is an amazing woman and has bought something special to racing...
Report Rydal March 19, 2016 6:39 AM GMT

I agree completely.

It must be hard for a sportsperson to develop a new career after leaving their sport. Not everyone is suited to management, coaching or journalism. The sense of purpose she got from this must have outweighed the risks for her. Her focus and dedication have been outstanding from the beginning and it has now given her an entry into a new career which isn't focussed on bikes.

The upside for the sport we love has been immense. It will help counter the negative impact of the bad news we often get (for example, the sad number of fatalities this week) and get over to a wider public (especially women and younger people) how exciting and enjoyable the game can be.

Also, although her ride was cautious, she got a great result out of a horse which had previously shown its best form at much shorter distances.

By the way, I don't blame Francome or Smith-Eccles for expressing their concerns - I am just pleased that they were wrong this time.
Report argosy March 19, 2016 2:15 PM GMT
Paul Nicholls must surely take some blame for tactics. It looks very much tht she was told to jump off last, stay out of the way and concentrate on getting round. Had she been told to jump off with the rest she could j
Report argosy March 19, 2016 2:15 PM GMT
Paul Nicholls must surely take some blame for tactics. It looks very much tht she was told to jump off last, stay out of the way and concentrate on getting round. Had she been told to jump off with the rest she could j
Report argosy March 19, 2016 2:15 PM GMT
Paul Nicholls must surely take some blame for tactics. It looks very much that she was told to jump off last, stay out of the way and concentrate on getting round. Had she been told to jump off with the rest she could have won.
Report gnashersblackpool March 21, 2016 12:00 AM GMT
thik getting round carefully was her own idea, she was on a 6 figbonus if she completed the course.
Report GREEDISGOOD March 21, 2016 5:34 PM GMT
I'm in Dubai and just managed to watch the race highlights on Youtube.  AP mccoy or Ruby Walsh would have won on that horse.  Pendleton is a poor excuse for a jockey.
Report Facts March 21, 2016 9:57 PM GMT
Report betilyerded March 22, 2016 7:08 PM GMT
Think youre missing the point somewhat Greed. It was the Foxhunters - a race for amateurs. Doh!
Report GREEDISGOOD March 22, 2016 7:25 PM GMT
lol good point.  Doh!
Report dunlaying March 23, 2016 4:04 PM GMT
I am obliged to say that I was very impressed with her ride. She did not do much on the run in but overall impressive.
Report inrunninggg April 8, 2016 9:20 PM BST
place lay was very nice,gave me a little fright when she started coming through them but the money is in the bank. mind you she rode it to try to finish and place in my eyes....cheers miss pendleton
Report IrisDeBalme March 17, 2017 4:50 PM GMT
Hope Victoria watched the race....
Report Facts March 17, 2017 6:34 PM GMT
She did.
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