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Zarwaan does indeed appear to be the word RB if todays support is anything to go by. Good support for Hillbilly Boy too.
I hope this is one of the times you are right Fab ![]() Its been a dry week and looks like a fairly dry run up to the race, little bits of rain forecast but nothing substantial. Any Donny residents around to keep us updated? |
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Where is Town Moor when you need him..he walks the track every day.
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About 8 Miles away, not much rain to speak off this week been mostly cloudy and misty with not much wind either. If my golf course anything to go by then it will be good with good to soft patches at worst.
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No worries Big Issue, I'm wrong a lot more than I'm right
Guess I'm in that particular boat too. See my first post and Munaaser ![]() |
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Mick Channon has Lincoln entered for the Lincoln.
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Just been watching a few old Lincoln Handicap's from the 80's & 90's on you tube.
Some great names there including Amenable ridden by Alex 'Queen of the turf' Greaves, Star Of A Gunner, K-Battery, Saving Mercy winning for the Irish. Please note: I did not back any of the above winners before anyone tries to put me on the aftertimers thread ! ![]() |
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Found this on the Sporting Life website from 18th March.
The one just behind the principal pair in most ante-post lists is ZARWAAN and there still looks to be plenty of juice in the 16/1 quotes about him. Now set to be Hamdan Al Maktoum's sole representative following Munaaser's defection, the Ed Dunlop-trained four-year-old still holds Group-class potential on what we saw of him last term. Four 2014 starts yielded four highly creditable efforts, without getting his head in front, and he's another who has been kept fresh (for this?) since the summer. His trainer was fairly candid about the problems the yard was enduring early last season, yet this son of Dutch Art still posted two excellent seconds before a slightly unlucky fifth in the Britannia after encountering a far from ideal passage at Royal Ascot. He didn't quite run up to that level when tried in Listed company on the July course on his most recent start but a mark of 102 has since been protected [b]and the Newmarket gallops watchers have liked what they've seen in recent week[/b] There was a major move for him the following day so this could have been part of it. Im liking that Hillbilly Boy has shortened to 20's too ![]() |
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Custard Cream - I dont mind being shoved into the aftertimers thread if Mighty Fly is on there.
I was a 16 yo paper lad and as the shop owner liked a punt he asked me if I fancied a bet. I did my round that Saturday morning, reading all the racing pages, went back to the shop and said id have £1 of my £3.50 wages on Mighty Fly at 16-1. He talked me out of putting it on to win so i ended up having 50p e/w I could have retired!!I do remember watching the race and not hearing the horses name mentioned until it lead close home. I think Steve Cauthen was on board. Probably the one and only time Ive backed the Lincoln winner! |
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i got the word for high low once at 25,s,
always remember it backed it ew and in an ew double with a jumper called billybathgate at newbury ,that was nowhere,in those days there was a really good handicap for 4 yr old hurdlers on that newbury card with lots of runners always tried to do an ew double with the lincoln,whatever happened to that race and meeting |
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He didn't quite run up to that level when tried in Listed company on the July course on his most recent start but a mark of 102 has since been protected and the Newmarket gallops watchers have liked what they've seen in recent week
If you believed the news from the 'watchers' - you'd be broke within the month. Everything on the gallops is 'catching pigeons '! |
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so true Facts - they see a horse run across the gallops next to a pony and they think its a Frankel
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Gallops reports are the most unreliable punting tool ever.
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of those not mentioned above, Mondialiste has some interesting form in France, an interesting trainer in Yorkshire and a fair bit of blue on 0ddschecker...
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As for Zarwaan,breeding,Dutch Art and Pivotal are 7f 8f performers,any info on the Dam anyone?.If Ed Dunlop has learnt from his dad then he may not win this.John Dunlop never won this race nor the Cambs or the Stewards for that matter,so like all trainers they have their own M.O.
As for the Maktoums,well theyre not known normally for farming big handicaps,their horses are group race in mind .But they can nick some of these because of the compression of the weights,its harder for unexposed light weights these days [they cant get in!!!]. As for aftertiming, we all have our stories from the past,its merely a testament to how good it used to be if you studied hard,as compared to now. Now you have so much more info to go through, and study to the point of exhaustion. We also have our hard luck stories,mine is Spanish Don,2nd in my ratings and i went to the paddock just to observe it,left perplexed and never had a bean on it, 100/1 is enough to make you cry,i nearly went mad!!!. even forgot to back L.P. Kenirys brothers ride namely Ballyvady that won at 11/2. I blame all the heaving drunks at Newmarket that day [couldnt move, couldnt think straight],anyway another testimony to what can be possible if we all study harder. So no more talk of aftertiming,how are we going to know the level of a poster on here if we dont divulge info about ourselves [i've seen postings about the Martindale system!!!!!!!,god help us!!!].Anyway this forum wasnt around years ago. Must check whether lincoln winners had won furter tan a mile prior to winning this,any info on this anyone?. |
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Rease,' Mondialiste certainly the 'dark horse' and with O'Meara having 2nd in the Spring Mile and 3rd and 4th in Lincoln last year, one to be feared.
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93 left in at the 5 day stage
No jockey booking for the favourite yet. |
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As far as I'm aware there are several big chain bookmaking firms with branches in Newmarket Town. They don't seem too scared to do business there. I wonder why? I would also wonder what is the % of winning gamblers on horses in Newmarket and if it's a bigger % than anywhere else? I seriously doubt it is.
People who look for "inside info" generally tend to be non believers and lazy people looking for easy money. People with that mindset will lose no matter how much "info" they have. They want it easy and don't believe it is possible without the easy info. It's a losers mentality. Be lazy with a non believing attitude and of course you will look elsewhere for "info" rather than doing the work and trusting your own opinion. Interesting to see Spencer booked for Jack's Revenge rather than Gabrial's Kaka. Smullen booked for Belgian Bill. |
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^ absolutely spot on !
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The weld horse isn't coming over so that is down to 23. Anyone know which number is likely to get in please ?
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backed Moohaarib @20s for this,hopeing
the grounds alright for him to run. 4yr old so there should be room for improvement in him.Closely matched on Ascot form with Mange All with the revised weights and finished in front of GM Hopkins at Nottingham end of last season.Twice the price of those two. GL ALL |
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The Runners and William Hill prices
Mange All 5/1 Gm Hopkins 6/1 Zarwaan 8/1 Gabrial´s Kaka 12/1 Hillbilly Boy 14/1 Mondialiste 14/1 Moohaarib 14/1 Gabrial 16/1 What About Carlo 16/1 Baraweez 20/1 Belgian Bill 20/1 Bronze Angel 20/1 Lincoln 20/1 Ocean Tempest 20/1 Bertiewhittle 25/1 Fire Ship 25/1 Jack´s Revenge 25/1 Boom And Bust 33/1 Don´t Call Me 33/1 Emell 33/1 Robert The Painter 33/1 Tres Coronas 33/1 |
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nobody going 1st 5 a place, tightwads.
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I think it will be Saturday morning....
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cheers, I'm gonna wait then, in hope.
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The clock says Tres Coronas.Will probably be a bit sharp for him and not getting any younger but will have a little each -way at a big price.
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Another each way that can be considered is Robert the Painter 3rd in the race last year and is also 33/1
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I agree that Robert the Painter is over priced, 50 on here, a couple of runs at Meydan will have helped fitness. They weren't very good runs but the horse is clearly much better on turf. Too big to ignore from a trainer that knows how to win these sort of races
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Has there been any rain at Donny 2day?
Are they due to get any before the race 2moro? |
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4-5mm yesterday morning. There might be showers tomorrow morning but not a lot expected.
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Cheers. Hopefully no slower than gd.
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Ocean Tempest 25-1 ew, 1st 5, 46.0 on here for my day of race bet.
The ground could be softer and this years race looks stronger than last year but he impressed me then. Came all way over from stall 3 to finish near stand side and still had bit to spare. Only 2 have won back to back Lincolns in last 150 years but horses have run well when returning to this race. |
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Whats interesting about Ocean Tempest preparation last season... the kept him fit in Dubai without fully unleashing the horse... I remember early prices he was 66s... then on 6 day decs... he was 33s... and shortened slowly on the day to 20s... and won
he was drawn 3 but the horses behind him were 22 - 18 - 14 - 16 which suggests pace was on the other side... so you have to respect the horses ability it was a great run... Also, connections werent suprised at all that he won... and they expected him to have good shout... At the time I thought they plotted that well... This season, the same approach ... few gallops in Dubai and still unconsidered at 25s (may be 33s in the morning)... he has a claimer on board... So whatever you fancy tomorrow me its Gabriels Kaka... but its worth putting a cheeky fiver/tenner on this horse... as Im not sure which horse will turn him... but ignore him at your peril as many did last season. |
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btw for those who love Irony LINCOLN winning the LINCOLN would be the most apt winner.
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Hillbilly Boy each way to bounce out and keep battling away on his side, and the 2 Gabrial's to get involved late on with Robert the painter somewhere in the mix for the places . Might even hit the tricast ! To kickstart the flat
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Some excellent observations have been given above, it's been a pleasure too read and digest the different views upon the great race , well done and thank you all!
Just gonna add the Timeform free race pass link - https://www.timeform.com/racing/racecard/race/2015-03-28/14/5 |