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deepingfox When: 24 Jan 15 20:14

Good enough performance from Peace & Co, but not wirthy of 7/4 fav tag for Triumph. Theres interesting candidates in Ireland, and they have produced the last two winners in Our Conor and Tiger Roll.

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deepingfox When: 24 Jan 15 20:15

worthy of course, not wirthy.

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GREEDISGOOD When: 25 Jan 15 23:20

don't back this horse at stupid odds. u can back it in running n the day and probably get double odds

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duffy When: 25 Jan 15 23:24

you'll probably get 3/1 plus on the day pre race...pretty much everyone agrees that his price now is daft, there's only one way it will go on the day I'd have thought.

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PeteTheBloke When: 26 Jan 15 21:14

Bit of (small) money for him in the Supreme. I wonder...

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CJ When: 27 Jan 15 00:31

This years Dunquib. Just watch it bomb.

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CJ When: 27 Jan 15 00:32

g not a q!

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Flashy When: 28 Jan 15 19:11

I may be talking nonsense, but I have visions of a fast run race and peace and co coming to the end of his tether after the last..and being swallowed up by a horse with more stamina. I know the race is 2m 1, but it was a slowly run race at the weekend. His dosage mark indicates he has it all to do as all horses with his dosage have not won the triumph in the last 10 years as it indicates all speed.

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Eeternaloptimist When: 28 Jan 15 19:32

I think it very much depends on the ground. I wouldn't want to be a backer on soft ground at the festival. Lets not forget though that The New One was outstayed on trials day before sluicing up at the festival over course and distance. I think on good ground he will take all the beating.

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metro john When: 29 Jan 15 10:43

All the above points valid, but what is gonna beat it? Oh yes, should be a bigger price without any doubt,but we never get those prices very often do we?

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kavvie When: 29 Jan 15 23:21

often you see one 3/4 weeks before the triumph sluicing up ..mayne the triumph winner hasnt appeared yet.

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ReaseHeath When: 29 Jan 15 23:40

Chartbreaker would be one interesting one that we've not seen yet, Nicholls has entered him in both Triumph and Supreme, Flat RPR of 92 and got within 10 lengths of Sea The Moon in a Group 2 at Cologne last summer.

Intriguing that he's entered in both races (though I could be reading too much into that), looks like he prefers a softer surface so they may just be thinking he's more likely to get that in Supreme.

Anyway, a lot of supposition for a horse yet to run over hurdles but one to keep an eye out for when he appears.

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Howdi When: 30 Jan 15 21:55

^^ agree good post.

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metro john When: 30 Jan 15 22:31

Yes Reaseheath, any horse getting within 10L of Sea The Moon(In my opinion the best individual performance I witnessed last year) must be considered. Hope the books read this and ease the jolly a few points.

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CVByrne When: 30 Jan 15 23:39

I have to say I'm enjoying the wild disparity of the comments about the horse in this thread and the one in the other forum. Lots opposing him (rightly so at his odds in a Triumph) but I think every possible reason has been brought up. He won't win for 19 reason now by my count.

I'm still wildly confident. I call him wonder horse, our WhatsApp chat is renamed Peace & Co Fan Club after that one Donny race!! He's just a phenominal talent and I hope he progresses to fulfill that promise.

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buddeliea When: 31 Jan 15 07:16

Well to my eyes there has not been a more impressive Juvenile seen thus far,so to see he cannot win is just plain stupid,and probably being said by backers of other horses,and those that missed prices.
Yeh,fair enough re the price,i cant back him at that,but just cos one has backed something else or missed the price,dont come on forums saying he cannot win!!

Pathetic imo.

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metro john When: 01 Feb 15 06:08

Now I am confused CV

, Thinking they could all use a flat track myself, Nichols thinking the same? and Hendo? Still the best seen thus far over here,for all the obvious quirks(Nervous),I do wonder if they will reach for headgear?

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Ibrahima Sonko When: 01 Feb 15 12:37

Cannot win

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buddeliea When: 01 Feb 15 12:38

wind up merchant

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metro john When: 13 Mar 15 17:20

Oi Oi

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Eeternaloptimist When: 13 Mar 15 21:49

So let me get this right. Two months ago you advised people to back a horse who was 11/4 and on the day you could back it at 4-1 with it opening on course at 11/4 and you are running around like you are King Dong?

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IrisDeBalme When: 14 Mar 15 00:35

well done - metro john

Did slate your thread a bit... but you firmly believed in this horse.. and although short odds... hope you backed it heavily ... and got your reward.

There are still question marks with this horse in terms of how close Top Notch was... but does clearly have a bit of class and you definately caught him at the right time.

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metro john When: 14 Mar 15 06:30

Jan 23, 2015 -- 4:49PM, Eeternaloptimist wrote:

Let's hope not but tomorrow there may be few other sounds coming from Cheltenham other than air rushing out of a popped balloon and metro sobbing uncontrollably.

Notears here my son

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Eeternaloptimist When: 15 Mar 15 02:06

You were about a month late to the bandwagon. Son:

Don't get me wrong. I've backed him but at the right price and this isn't the right price.

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metro john When: 15 Mar 15 09:14

Jan 17, 2015 -- 7:44PM, Eeternaloptimist wrote:

Dear god man. I knew you were mad but not this mad. What's changed between him being 8-1 and 10-1 following his last run and now when the best you can get is less than 3-1? That ship has sailed. Piling in now is madness. They are running him next week to see if they can switch him off for the big day. What happens if he lights up like a Roman Candle and starts flagging off the home turn next week?Don't get me wrong. I've backed him but at the right price and this isn't the right price.

The horse was about too win a Cheltenham thus proving his effectiveness for the track,his previous win was just wfa short of Champion hurdle class(yes I did see previous run),most would expect the horse too shorten,many would have been surprised at the layers optimism too get it beat?,even if we can see attitude and possible flaws in character?(high head carriage). Value we never really get that unless you match a few quid(and they only match you for a few quid at bigger prices has the charge happens just after the event) a good trading angle maybe?,but I much prefer the old days(pre betfair, concerning ante post) when the old guys had more patience(lets get them too the event first), you remain one of the better forum trolls around sir

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metro john When: 15 Mar 15 09:49

But well done too all who did match,trade at bigger prices(above 7/2) at whatever stage you did it at!

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metro john When: 15 Mar 15 09:53

Jan 28, 2015 -- 7:32PM, Eeternaloptimist wrote:

I think it very much depends on the ground. I wouldn't want to be a backer on soft ground at the festival. Lets not forget though that The New One was outstayed on trials day before sluicing up at the festival over course and distance. I think on good ground he will take all the beating.

Did you trade out sir?

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Eeternaloptimist When: 15 Mar 15 14:45

I didn't and it was far closer at the finish than I was comfortable with.

The horse was about too win a Cheltenham thus proving his effectiveness for the track,

Clearly you have a special crystal ball.

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metro john When: 15 Mar 15 14:51

circle ,square ,triangle

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metro john When: 15 Mar 15 14:54

https://youtu.be/qr1tB3Fy1Xs

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Angel Gabrial When: 15 Mar 15 14:58

4/9 spooky predictions alright

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metro john When: 15 Mar 15 14:59