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I hope Hurricane Flyruns and wins and does the same thing in the Irish Champion Hurdle. Conditions are ideal for him. I'm starting to get the feeling he won't go to Cheltenham but you never know. I think if he did, Ruby would find it hard to ride something else in opposition to him.
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I took 20/1 the fly for chelt this afternoon, 5s a place the way the race is looking is miles too big imo. Backed Jezki at 13/2 and faugheen at 7/4 (biggest bet ive ever placed).
I don't think we will be seeing Jezki on Monday, been watching the market today after racing and nothing been matched yet fly been shortening. If Jezki don't go fly will be 7s or 8s on. 4/5 could be monsterous! |
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won 600 quid on horses today went to collect, thought id reinvest on the fly in this around the shops at 4/5, got offered 200 and couple 100s various places, told i was sp only on ante post in another work that one out.
got incline jessie might wait for the irish champion hurdle on better ground, why slog his guts out in this when everything favours the fly, plus jp left in plinth to give himself a runner. then on a 1/10 shot, if not will lay my bet off at 1.5 near the off. |
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888 sport just took there prices down were 1.83 5 mins ago
not sure if they are exchange or bookie |
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irish champion is rarely better ground...they should just take their chance...he handles heavy ground.
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I don't see HF turning up at Cheltenham where he'll get battered.
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ruby will have no problem getting off fly for the machine.
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i heard fly was going w hurdle or that was the plan at start of season.
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Personally i cant see why fly wouldn't run on the Churdle at Cheltenham, different owners to Faugheen and surely they can't dictate simply on jockey decisions. Yes a difficult decision but am sure Ruby will choose the 21 grade 1 winner over the up and coming and there are plenty other decent jockeys out there to choose from. If i was Willie Mullins though i would take away the decision from Ruby and just tell him who he's riding, i.e the fly. Especially after that.
This is the way i see it Faugheen Ruby Wlash, Mr p.w mullins, Townend ?? TNO - STD Jezki - Mccoy Hurricane Fly Ruby likeliest imo but also Mr p.w mullins, Townend ?? |
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hurricane fly v istabraq - evens the pair - where would your money go?
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istabraq for me as he never showed signs of vulnerablility that HF has on the rare occasion...would be close though
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i agree
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HF for me. Istabraq fell twice and 2nd to Royal Thyne, Pridwell and Limestone Lad.
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Hurricane Fly has won most of his Grade 1 races off a slow pace on soft ground and while Istrabraq has a similar profile is both a quicker jumper and faster horse and denied a 4th Champ Hdr because of foot in mouth (gob) I suspect the bookies organised or welcomed the outbreak (Maybe??)
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Hurricane fly has won a lot of his races where he's had one opponent.
Talk about him being 'the best over jumps' or whatever nonsense Mullins said is laughable bilge. He's an exceptional horse but lets get some perspective. |
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Istabraq would destroy HF in a Champion Hurdle. And that's where it really matters.
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Istabraq would be probably due another fall. I dont see how a horse which has fallen twice over hurdles can be deemed to be one of the best hurdlers ever.
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HF shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Istabraq.
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Rose tinted glasses where Istabraq is concerned. There were plenty of races where he only had one horse to beat - sometimes fewer!
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They are very closely matched as far as I am concerned.
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I thought Jezki looked in great nick during the race and was gagging for that stronger pace. Shame he could not outbattle HF in the finish but it was a good run,.
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Platini 29 Dec 14 12:24 Joined: 20 Dec 02 | Topic/replies: 9,876 | Blogger: Platini's blog
I don't see HF turning up at Cheltenham where he'll get battered. ![]() Platini 31 Dec 14 12:14 Joined: 20 Dec 02 | Topic/replies: 9,876 | Blogger: Platini's blog HF shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Istabraq. Stop fishing plat ![]() ![]() |
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Istabraq & Hurricane Fly, different times, both up there among the absolute greatest to ever race. You'll have one camp say one is better, another camp say the other is better. Just opinions at the end of the day mostly fueled by how much a person is fond of one or the other.
One thing to be said about Fly though, he has been so great to his supporters is in betting terms, at sp level stake profit of 1900% he's been a joy to follow. What a horse. |
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Istabraq's Cheltenham record is what puts him in a different class to HF.
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Best Mate's Cheltenham record is what puts him in a different class to Kauto Star
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Everything is ''just'' an opinion CV. People are allowed them.
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Sure I know that Sint. Can't see where I said people weren't allowed them
Opinions on current horses who will face eachother serve a purpose though, they will race and you can find out if you were right or wrong and aim to make money from that opinion. Everyone is right or wrong many times in this game after all. I just don't see the point to say one or other of 2 great horses was the better when they raced a decade apart is all. |