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Any chance Champagne Fever or (more outlandishly) Vautour feature in the entries for this tomorrow?
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surely the tizzards should look down this route there not gonna win the KG if they start know, was thinking the same for dynaste could be worth a go at 2 mile on heavy.
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Can't find the entries. Has it been re-opened due to lack of interest?
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Well, found mention of the entries but as usual the racing sites are sh!t slow at getting the list of horses out.
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Finally found it. Some wishful thinking going on in that lot. Mad Moose???
Alderwood Balder Succes Ballycasey Claret Cloak Dodging Bullets Felix Yonger God's Own Hinterland Mad Moose Oscar Hill Oscar Whisky Pepite Rose Somersby Third Intention Twinlight Vukovar William's Wishes Wishfull Thinking |
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Big field possible but with the weather set pretty fair the going should be decent and I'd be disappointed if the old guard were good enough.
Balder Success @ 100/30 seems fair enough and, if he runs, I'd also be keen on Third Intention @ 25/1 with a view to laying off in running at single figures. |
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Balder Succes missed Cheltenham as they don't thing he likes the track, but his only run at Sandown was also hugely below par. Maybe he is a flat track bully?
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Anyone happen to know whether Ballycasey is likely to turn up? Would definitely be interesting imo.
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I don't know but he is also entered in John Durkan at Punchestown on Sunday, I'd've thought Twinlight would go to Cork on Sunday to run in the Hilly Way chase he won last year.
Don't think I'll be getting involved in this until final decs - there's decent cards in Ireland at Navan,Cork and Punchestown over the weekend and Oscar Hill, Pepite Rose, Vukovar and Wishfull Thinking are all entered in the Peterborough Chase at Huntingdon on Sunday as well as this. |
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Worst tingle creek field I can remember.
Moscow Flyer v Azertyuiop v Well Chief it is not. |
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I would side with Balder Success too. I think his run last time out was good enough especially given he blundered and lost his chance after that. It is never easy winning handicaps in the 160s so I reckon they must have been aiming him at this race. Doubts are who rides him and the trainer does not often deliver in these top races despite all the ammunition he gets. I hope he wins though as he's in my TTF list.
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If I could stay 2 mile I would run in this myself! Whats gone wrong a shortage of 2 mile hurdlers and chasers and no obvious outstanding Gold Cup horses either. Well there are a few 2m hurdlers but very few competitive grade 1s.
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Ballycasey the stand out horse to me as well. PP are as low as 7-1 for the QMCC against a top priced 16-1 which suggests they think he will be campaigned over the minimum.
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Balder loves small fields, think this one will be a little too big for him and there will be too many for him to bully
This is a very weak renewal, but without a strong fav I'd be tempted to see out a double figure winner. Still looking at the card |
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Twinlight shortlisted if ground comes up softish
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Although Millins chase record over here is dire!!!!!! hmmmm
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Twinlight a bit of a strange one - not a horse I would trust. I doubt if he is grade 1 class but I've been wrong before. I would imagine he goes for Hilly Way chase in Cork which he won last year.
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I know it sounds mad, but Mad Moose for a place? lol
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Ballycasey taken out of John Durkan and not entered in Hilly Way so looks increasingly likely he will end up here, Felix Younger and Twinlight both have alternative engagements in Ireland.
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Backed MAD MOOSE at 120, few a few quid on him lol
Down to 70's now Just need him to be declared, then for him to actually run and not refuse to race (AGAIN), then to actually put in a good run after a year off........... and win    Not asking for much! lol |
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Should PP be taken notice of CCM? Them and B0yles are habitually different on Irish runners in most markets.
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I would say they are worth listening to Sint.
Interesting post by Tory on the tell Us More thread... FAO CCM The guy who does Road To Cheltenham at the oddschecker site has picked up on something you noticed. Quoted below. "Finally, some bookmakers make it their business to have a mole in a top yard. Last season when Pricewise put Annie Power up for the Champion Hurdle, Paddy Power were a stand out 14/1, (10/1 was the biggest price other layers in the Pricewisebox were offering.) During the summer Paddy Power seemed the first to know that Faugheen was staying hurdling and Vautour and Un De Sceaux were going chasing. It’s interesting they offer only 7/1 on Ballycasey for the Champion Chase, (Stan James go 16/1). Whilst they’re ducking Vautour generally, they are especially under the general price for the JLT, (they offer 9/4, top price is 100/30). In the Gold Cup they’re top price Champagne Fever (12/1) and Sir Des Champs (25/1) and bottom price Boston Bob, (14/1 – top price 25/1). If you’re thinking of backing a Willie Mullins horse ante-post, it’s worth checking Paddy Power’s prices." Anyway, Tell Us More is best price at Paddy for the Supreme, and Paddy has him shortest for the Neptune. |
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Sorry, posted by Tucho,
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Dodging Bullets for me. He may have taken longer to get fully fit than they thought and seems to be the one who will be best suited by the conditions on Saturday. It is a pity that there is a lack of star quality this year.
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Williams Wishes e/w 33-1. Stable going well, kept dossing up in handicaps before injury inc over C&D, not ground dependent, nice return over hurdles and it could be a very average renewal. Boom!
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Just backed Oscar Whisky at 8/1. Think this race could be right up his street. With the front two in the market questions to answer over whos going to beat who this time around and are their form up to the level of this ones? His run in the PP where he jumped fluently and only got tired in the closing stages will bring him on a bundle and although 2 miles might not be his optimum i think he could well get away with it at this track and on his preferred testing conditions in this field!
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Will Ballycasey be coming over for this?
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Oh and of course i have only backed OW due to him being 8/1 and 8.4 on here lol as I always tend to do anyways, above are reasons to which i would have just done him on the day otherwise.
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What race were you watching STS? OW's PP run was almost the opposite of what you just described. He jumped ok, but very slowly at times (particularly the last three when the pace was lifted), and then he stayed on really well to the line and would have been second a furlong on. Even so, I still think he's interesting at the prices if the ground doesn't dry up too much. He needs to be a lot quicker through the air at 2m however.
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I am a big OW fan but just don't see him as a 2m chaser. Yes soft ground may help his chances,but I just don't think hes quick enough at the distance. I am hoping he don't run cos I will have to back him and will probably lose money,rather that than he actually proves me wrong and I aint backed him!!
I like him for the Ryanair though. |
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I honestly don't think he will need to prove himself as a 2mile chaser to win this. Think he could prove to be the class in the race. Neither in front of him in the betting achieved quite as much as he over hurdles, a churdle 3rd being one of his good runs. With only a little bit of improvement to which his seasonal debut could give he could be the one to give them most to think about. Would be great compo to the team Hendo
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yeh,you may be right. Shall wait till the final decs and see his opposition.
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Current market tells me he's an intended starter fwiw happy with the 8s ive got anyways
 . I would say there is a chance, small i know, but still a chance Gods Own could run in the Henry V111 chase .Out of the rest, i am interested in a couple, Vukovar though the price has long gone and Ballycasey if turning up  |
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To be honest I was expecting him to run at Cheltenham the following week, how confident are we that he will run at Sandown? heard anything from connections STS??
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No unlike some i have no contacts. I am confident he will run here based solely on the market on here. There are just certain yards you can associate with knowing what their plans are going to be before the press does just by looking at the respective ap market on the exchanges and Henderson's is one of them. Though 90% of the time the market is a great guide to many!
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I think Henderson may have said he was running when SS was declared unfit to do so.
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Hes been saying for sometime now he is a 2 and a half miler,which we all knew before his World Hurdle debacles anyway. He has a 2 and a hlf m race next week.
I guess hec sees a soft ground 2 mile race without the the top horses as a chance for him to win a big race......okey doke and I hope hes right. I do worry hes quick enough and I do worry about his jumping on a course where they come up quick. Fascinating stuff. |
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*The fences come up quick
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OW simply does not jump well enough to win a Tingle Creek. Yeah he had good hurdles form, how many hurdles are there in the Tingle Creek?
He's up against genuine 2 milers and at Sandown he cannot afford to be sloppy, which he has been several times over fences so far. |