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Dell' Arca, Sametegal, Rawnaq and Flaxen Flare, the first four home in the Greatwood Hurdle at Cheltenham last month, are among 57 entries for The Ladbroke at Ascot on Saturday, December 21.
The sponsor has installed the first two home as the 12/1 co-favourites of six for the two-mile £150,000 Grade Three handicap hurdle, alongside Nicky Henderson's Blue Fashion and Rolling Star, and potential Irish raiders City Slicker and Quick Jack. Henderson is the most successful trainer in the contest, having captured the prestigious and valuable prize with Sentry Duty (2008), Jack The Giant (2007), and Chauvinist (2002). His eight-strong entry also includes the classy River Maigue, Snake Eyes and Chatterbox, who finished second to Ifbutandwhynot on his seasonal return in the Gerry Feilden at Newbury last week. The progressive Dell' Arca made the perfect British debut when landing the Grade Three Greatwood Hurdle. His trainer David Pipe is also responsible for Shotavodka, Ronaldo des Mottes, Swing Bowler, Waterunder and Dan Breen. Auteuil Grade One scorer Ptit Zig is among six entries for seven-time champion jump trainer Paul Nicholls, while Alan King, successful with Raya Star in 2011, has entered Grumeti and impressive Newbury victor Vendor. Gordon Elliott was victorious last year with Cause Of Causes and could bid for a repeat victory with this year's Fred Winter Juvenile Handicap Hurdle hero Flaxen Flare, who was last seen coming fourth in the Greatwood Hurdle and is one of seven Irish-trained entries. Rawnaq fared best of the Irish raiders at Prestbury Park and trainer Michael Smith is hoping his charge can reproduce that effort at Ascot. The six-year-old completed a hat-trick of wins during the summer months, before finishing a respectable seventh on heavy ground in the Galway Hurdle. Smith, who has just eight horses in training, reported: "All being well, Rawnaq will run in The Ladbroke. "He has come out Cheltenham well and is in good form. I was delighted with his performance there but we were expecting a big run as he was in such good form. "We expected the same in the Galway Hurdle, but he came back sick and ran a great race for a horse that wasn't well. It was bottomless as well and he is much better on better ground. "During the summer, he won a Flat race and two hurdle races really impressively and then ran two good races on the Flat before Cheltenham. "I've had my licence for nearly a year now and it's great to be associated with a horse like him. "He is still improving and we think he will be even better over a longer trip. We will wait and see how he gets on in Ascot, but we have always thought further the better for him because he does stay two miles on the Flat." Other notable entries include Elite Hurdle victor Melodic Rendezvous and Pine Creek who landed a Listed handicap hurdle decisively over the course and distance last month. |
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THE LADBROKE
Saturday 21st December 2013ALL ODDS Favourites:City Slicker (12), Dell Arca (12), Quick Jack (12), Blue Fashion (14), Chatterbox (14), Rolling Star (14), Sametegal (14), Caid Du Berlais (16), Call Me Bubbles (16), Chris Pea Green (16), Flaxen Flare (16), Ifandbutwhynot (16), Melodic Rendezvous (16), Pine Creek (16), Ptit Zig (16), Snake Eyes (16), Swing Bowler (16), Upazo (16), Vendor (16), Cash And Go (20) |
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111-15 Melodic Rendezvous21 7 11-12 Jeremy Scott 152 150 160
131-21 Ptit Zig41 4 11-11 Paul Nicholls 151 125 147 31/4-3 Grumeti21 5 11-11 Alan King 151 135 159 1165-1 Rolling Star28 4 11-10 Nicky Henderson 150 130 157 332-12 Sametegal34 4 11-10 Paul Nicholls 150 138 153 411-87 Court Minstrel34 6 11-9 Evan Williams 149 136 157 15-112 Call Me Bubbles48F 4 11-9 W P Mullins 149 137 155 PP0-08 Get Me Out Of Here34 9 11-9 Jonjo O´Neill 149 136 155 141-42 Blue Fashion28 4 11-8 Nicky Henderson 148 — 155 17-922 Shotavodka21 7 11-4 David Pipe 144 134 152 21173 Rawnaq34 6 11-3 Matthew J Smith 143 138 154 114-2 Chatterbox23 5 11-3 Nicky Henderson 143 138 159 292-21 Caid Du Berlais15 4 11-3 Paul Nicholls 143 142 154 2128-3 River Maigue14 6 11-2 Nicky Henderson 142 133 152 1213-F Irish Saint23 4 11-2 Paul Nicholls 142 142 153 167-23 Chris Pea Green23 4 11-2 Gary Moore 142 138 154 4-2134 Flaxen Flare34 4 11-1 Gordon Elliott 141 141 154 376-04 Ruacana14 4 11-1 John Ferguson 141 136 152 213-20 Zuider Zee28 6 11-0 John Ferguson 140 134 154 331-52 Doyly Carte28 5 11-0 Donald McCain 140 125 155 9F-301 Ifandbutwhynot23 7 10-13 David O´Meara 139 137 152 63U-01 Vendor21 5 10-12 Alan King 138 123 152 2U70-0 Cash And Go34 6 10-12 Nicky Henderson 138 126 158 11P-93 Clondaw Kaempfer14 5 10-12 Donald McCain 138 121 155 423-11 City Slicker34 5 10-12 W P Mullins 138 127 155 P64/41 Dunraven Storm29 8 10-11 Philip Hobbs 137 127 152 14615 Waterunder14 6 10-11 David Pipe 137 146 152 4P03-9 Ronaldo Des Mottes14 8 10-11 David Pipe 137 111 160 115-16 Pine Creek34 5 10-11 John Ferguson 137 137 156 1/130- Swing Bowler284 6 10-10 David Pipe 136 145 157 7/003- Kazlian14F 5 10-10 Johnny Farrelly 136 139 156 145F3- Landscape244 5 10-10 Venetia Williams 136 101 155 2121 Dell´ Arca34 4 10-10 David Pipe 136 137 152 2000-1 Ranjaan26 5 10-9 Paul Nicholls 135 124 152 307-04 Dan Breen29 8 10-9 David Pipe 135 137 158 28-050 Vulcanite14 6 10-8 Charlie Longsdon 134 94 140 315-3F Kaylif Aramis36 6 10-8 Nigel Twiston-Davies 134 131 155 2275-1 Upazo21 5 10-8 W P Mullins 134 106 145 1115/0 Recession Proof35 7 10-8 John Quinn 134 68 143 1655/8 Alaivan14 7 10-8 Jonjo O´Neill 134 137 146 11/B-7 Lexi´s Boy14 5 10-8 Donald McCain 134 140 151 2O10- Bordoni283 4 10-6 John Ferguson 132 108 148 3/25-3 Dildar49 5 10-6 Paul Nicholls 132 142 155 26-117 Makari49 6 10-5 Nicky Henderson 131 125 155 500-11 Quick Jack36 4 10-5 A J Martin 131 135 150 2115- Totalize48F 4 10-5 Brian Ellison 131 137 153 7486-1 Knight Of Pleasure34 4 10-5 Gary Moore 131 136 157 U05-68 Sarabad37 5 10-4 W P Mullins 130 112 152 52P-11 Willow´s Saviour43 6 10-4 Dan Skelton 130 143 159 84233- Chesil Beach Boy254 10 10-3 John Coombe 129 121 156 2111- Karazhan328 5 10-3 Nicky Henderson 129 — — 113 Franciscan29 5 10-2 Donald McCain 128 118 155 1450/1 Moujik Borget28 5 10-1 Venetia Williams 127 — 156 224-20 Seventh Sky14 6 10-0 Charlie Mann 126 142 158 4-F238 Milord14 4 9-12 Kim Bailey 124 138 154 3/24-4 Snake Eyes51 5 9-11 Nicky Henderson 123 125 143 2P6-80 Whitby Jack14 6 9-7 Gary Moore 119 120 157 |
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Lads are NRNB
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I would be very interested in Blue Fashion in this. He may be better suited by 2m4f, but that's the only negative I could put on him. Yes Hendo has a bucket load entered, but he will probably run 3 or 4, and there isn't much else for him to run in at the moment. Second to the hugely progressive More of That lto, he has been given a 5lb raise, but that looks very fair in the light of yesterdays win for his conqueror. BF and MOT, travelled like much the best horses in that highly competitive handicap, and considering Hendos have been coming on plenty for their first run, I would expect the same of this lad. Plenty of 2 and half milers have won this event before, and at 16s, he looks worth an investment. Obviously if anyone knows that this is definitely the target, it makes it much better.
Sint, Lads have decided not to price this lad up, otherwise would gladly take 14s, or even 12s there. |
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chatterbox for me, lightly raced sure to improove for the run im on..
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Agree alleged 14/1 nr no bet cracking price, given rain that has fallen as well, im in!
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Just had some 14/1 nrnb CHATTERBOX though that concession may prove not to be as good as it looks hence they are rule 4 may apply notice up on their screens in store!
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Quick Jack likely to stay in Ireland apparently.
I can't make head nor tale of this race at the moment. Going to wait for next dec stage. |
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backed Zuider Zee,on here and 33/1 e/w
With crookes(nr/nb). Dont think this get 2 1/2 miles,strong run 2m should suit,imo. GL ALL |
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Really like Recession Proof here , had a nice tootle around Cheltenham at the Paddy Power meeting on his return off a long absence over a distance about a mile further than he's ever been before.
Back on the same mark he won the Totesport Trophy off in 2011. His only hurdles run inbetween those two efforts was the 2011 Supreme Novices hurdle - he was 5th beaten 8 lengths, the first four were Al Ferof, Spirit Son, Sprinter Sacre and Cue Card. Of course, he might not be as good as he was but 33/1 is a reasonable price to pay to find out. |
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ZZ,n/r.
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I had a horse in mind for this race and like Double Ross last week I had my write up ready to post once he was in the 5 day Decs. Alas Dildar is not among the 5 day decs and that write up is now gone to waste haha so we move onto the remainder of the shortlist.
I had two antepost plays in this already, City Slicker was one I was keen on as Mullins had said he would go for this race next after his win at Punchestown last month. The other antepost play as I said was Dildar who is not in the 5 day decs. City Slicker is now best priced 8/1 and given there is plenty of rain about I’m struggling to see any value in that antepost price. If he were that price day of the race though he could still be tempting. But as he’s entered on Friday also in a Nov hurdle he could take up that option if he gets better ground. Instead we need to look elsewhere. With the key for me being the likely going, there seems to be rain every day this week including plenty of Friday which will likely mean soft ground. Which gives us the perfect angle to tackle this race, horses who will improve for this ground. Three jump out at me straight away. Chris Pea Green 16/1, Shotavodka 25/1 & Ruacanna 40/1 all three have run fine races on their last start and all three will really benefit from soft ground. We’ll start things off with 1pt Chris Pea Green, 0.5pt Shotavodka & 0.5pt e/w Ruacana. I’ll do a full write up on the weekend preview section of http://jumpsadvisor.com/weekend-preview.html |
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Stars no rule 4 mentioned on-line matey,re Ladbrokes.
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Willows Saviour is mildly interesting as he looks progressive for his new trainer but he too is entered in the Grade 2 noivce race on the Friday.
Pine Creek won well on his previous run at Ascot and is interesting too. Has won twice on Soft but for some reason get the impression he is better on a sounder surface? Dunno. |
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Missed the boat a bit with the Chatterboc price but taken some 10/1 at Lads. The Gerry Fielden has a good record of throwing up winners of this race and he has smart form on Soft/Heavy, beating MTOY, and if he improves for his first run of the season he should be right in the mix for NJH who has a great record in the race. Well done to those who snaffled the 14's quickly.
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Illegal to apply Rule 4 to ante-post wagers with or without NRNB.
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Why is it illegal? It may not mention it online, but certainly is in shop!
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certainly DOES in shop
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Cant apply a r4 till after final decs, just cant be done
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Tattersalls Rule 4 states that NO DEDUCTION shall applied to ante-post bets.
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Ascot Racecourse @AscotInsider 26m
Track Update: The current Going is now Good to Soft, Soft in places; following 12mm rain during the past 24 hours to 10am Tuesday. Totalize is a massive standout at the prices (25s) imo given its gonna be tough going if the forecasts are correct Fit from the flat after minding his jumps mark, loves cut and there is definitely a lot of upside off a mark of 131 |
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Some of you might find this interesting:
The Ladbroke Handicap Hurdle takes place at Ascot on Saturday, 18th December. Always a highly competitive affair, it is generally won by more unexposed improving types. Last year’s race was abandoned. Below we take a look at the 8 runnings in the past decade. Age (Win-Place-Runners) 4yo: 0-7-27 5yo: 5-6-52 6yo: 1-7-32 7yo: 2-2-18 8yo: 0-1-15 9yo+: 0-1-10 8 of 8 winners have been aged 5 to 7 Horses aged 8+ (0-2-25) have a very poor record having gained no wins and just 2 places from 25 runners. Weight (Win-Place-Runners) Horses carrying 10-9 or more: 7-13-97 Horses carrying 10-8 or less: 1-11-57 Horses carrying 10-9+ have won 7 of the last 8 (including the last 6) and have filled 19 of 24 places in the last 6 renewals. Official Ratings Horses rated 140 or higher: 1-2-16 Horses rated 130 to 139: 4-10-77 Horses rated 129 or lower: 3-12-61 No strong trends on official ratings. Recent/Past Form 5 of 8 winners won last time out 7 of 8 winners finished in first 3 last time out 6 of 8 winners gained their highest RPR on their last outing 7 of 8 winners was having seasonal debut or had run once that season 7 of 8 winners ran in 4 to 10 times over hurdles beforehand 7 of 8 winners had run in 5 or fewer handicap hurdles 6 of 8 winners were second season hurdlers (2 exceptions were third season hurdlers) 5 of 8 winners (last 5) ran at that year’s Cheltenham Festival Other races Previous year's winner: 70 (0-0-2) WilliamHill.com H'cap Hurdle winner (Tocca Ferro): 1 (1-0-1) Gerry Feilden Hurdle winner (Tocca Ferro): 5 (0-0-1) Totesport Trophy Hurdle winner (Get Me Out Of Here): 0 (0-0-1) 3 of 8 winners ran in the Caspar Caviar H'cap Hurdle last time, finishing 321 2 of 8 winners ran in the Swinton Hurdle, finishing 01 2 of 8 winners ran in the County Hurdle, finishing 70 5 of 8 winners ran at the Cheltenham Festival (2 County Hurdle, 1 Arkle, 1 Triumph & 1 Supreme Novices) Trainers Nicky Henderson (3-2-13) has won 3 of 8 runnings to date, including the last 2. The Pipe stable (3-2-21) have also won the race 3 times since its inception in 2001. Venetia Williams (1-1-6) is the only other trainer with an entrant to have previously won the race. Trainers who have saddled multiple placed runners are Gary Moore (0-3-10), Philip Hobbs (0-3-12) and Paul Nicholls (0-2-7). Irish trained runners (0-2-15) have gained just 2 places from 15 representatives. Price 5 of 8 winners have been priced between 7/1 and 14/1 Favourites (1-0-8) have a poor record having won just once in eight runnings, leaving a level stakes loss of 4.75. Summary: Based on the trends from the past 10 years you are looking for a horse: Aged 5 to 7 Finished in first 3 last time (ideally won) Posted their highest RPR last time Carrying 10-9+ Run no more than once this season Run in 5 or less handicap hurdles Ran at the 2010 Cheltenham Festival Second season hurdler From either the Pipe or Henderson stables Still like Chatterbox for this ![]() |
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Nicked from
![]() http://tippinggames.racinguk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8829 And just noticed it's from the year 2010 Will much have changed since then![]() |
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Totalize smashed up this evenin
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Ruacana has run with credit on unsuitable quick ground ever since he was a good 3rd to Our Conor & Diakali on soft ground in a Grade 1 in Feb. He ran a good race in the Fred Winter and they were always going a yard too quick and he kept plugging on. Found proper good ground too much either side of the summer but ran a fine race lto at Sandown when 4th off a big weight. With the forecast of rain including likely all day rain on Saturday it should be soft ground ground which he hasn't had since that fine run at Leopardstown.
Another horse who has run with lots of credit on ground quicker than he would like is Chris Pea Green, his 2 runs so far this season have been very promising. Especially his run at Ascot. That race won by Pine Creek looks like it was a hot contest with both Dunraven Storm and Makari winning nto and Jumps Road running a blinder in the international on Saturday behind The New One. Importantly he looks one who will improve for soft ground and I like his consistency. Finally a very interesting runner is Jonjos sole entry Alaivan. The horse had a prep race 2 weeks ago and all his wins came on soft or heavy ground. He was off the track for over 2 years and has been dropped 8lbs from his last Irish mark. He ran a blinder off 144 in the County Hurdle in 2011 when 2l behind Final Approach and on soft ground off this mark he could be competitive. It's equally possible they will take it easy with him and further lower his mark possibly for a tilt at another handicap later in the year. Ladbrokes are non runner no bet on this race. Selections 1pt e/w Ruacana 40/1 1.5pts Chris Pea Green 16/1 0.5pts Alaivan 33/1 http://jumpsadvisor.com/weekend-preview.html |
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Cause of Causes won it as a 4 yo last year and Raya Star carried only 10-01 the year before that
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BRIAN ELLISON, the trainer of the first plunge horse in the last big betting contest before Christmas, did nothing to dampen punters' enthusiasm for Totalize on Tuesday stating: "he's got a good chance".
Damp weather is what the unexposed four-year-old wants in the build up to the £150,000 Ladbroke Hurdle at Ascot on Saturday, and Brian Ellison hopes the softening ground will play to the strengths of the son of Authorized, who is proving hugely popular with punters. The race sponsor initially went 16-1 from 25-1, but were later forced into 12s. After 26mm of rain fell on Ascot in 48 hours, the going was on Tuesday eased to good to soft, soft in places, from good to soft - having been good on Sunday morning - with clerk of the course Chris Stickels prepared for further softening in the face of a largely wet forecast through to Saturday. Totalize, beaten favourite when badly drawn in a valuable Leopardstown handicap on the Flat last month, needs two to drop out to be guaranteed his first start over hurdles since finishing fifth in the Fred Winter at the Cheltenham Festival in March, which was only his fourth start over hurdles. "We'll have to see if he gets in but if he does he'll run well," said Ellison. "He won a couple, then ran a great race at Cheltenham. He won at Pontefract and was then badly drawn in the Movember Handicap at Leopardstown. "He's got a good chance and the more rain the better. He's by Authorized so he loves soft ground." Stickels said on Tuesday: "The course has taken the rain well and we're now good to soft, soft in places. It's forecast to be wet from late afternoon tomorrow through the night, better on Thursday and then wet again on Friday night and through Saturday. "There's a possibility the ground will ease. At best it will be similar to how it is now." The Willie Mullins-trained City Slicker is a solid 7-1 second favourite with the sponsor behind market leader Rolling Star and on Tuesday received a strong endorsement from jockey Ruby Walsh - though he will not be on board. Walsh told Racing UK: "City Slicker is likely to run in the Ladbroke Hurdle and as he's owned by JP McManus my old friend AP McCoy is likely to ride him. "He has a good chance and was a good handicap hurdle winner the last day at Punchestown, so Ascot will suit him going right-handed. It's obviously a competitive Ladbroke, but not an outstanding one. We'd have a chance." That would explain the money! |
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I am treading caution on the move for Totalize, though it is interesting all the same. The reason being is just the betting volume. It's moved all rates down from 44 yet has only shown a total of
Total matched on this event: £12,998 Betting summary - Volume: £914 Last price matched: 13.50 Would be interesting to see what price he is Saturday morning and how strong he is in the market. |
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Chris Stickels is a joke like a lot of COC's. Playing down just how testing the ground might be. He did the same on Champions Day. It doesn't take Stephen Hawking to predict it will be Soft at best by race time on Saturday.
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All over Chatterbox, secured the 14s Monday morning nrnb so happy bunny. Now to just wait for Saturday morning see whats strong and whats not in the market and pinch some juicy prices from the PW table for a couple of savers bets
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I can see the argument for Ruacana at the price on the ground CV. He does like testing ground looking at his form. But he was fortunate to win at Chepstow when Swynmor was decked at the last hurdle by Johnson and he is 10lb worse off with Totalize from their novice hurdle in Dec last season. That said, 40/1 covers the doubts about his mark/chance.
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Looks like you've got a decent bet at 25/1 BJG. Tops 14/1 now.
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Totalize got in alright.
Going off Oddschecker those not declared are Chesil Beach Boy, Ruacana, Snake Eyes, Dunraven Storm, Samtegal and Moujik Borget |
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Ascot stick readings from last season :
21-Dec-12 Heavy (Soft in places) C: 5.9 H: 5.9 21-Dec-12 Heavy C: 6.4 H: 6.5 on Thursday at 08:30 24-Nov-12 Heavy C: 6.3 H: 6.9 24-Nov-12 Soft C: 6.4 H: 6.7 on Friday at 09:00 23-Nov-12 Soft C: 6.8 H: 6.6 Currently 6.6 on hurdle track as of 8-30 this morning.. Almost certain to be heavy |
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Shotavodka runs though. Added another 1pt @ 25/1
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Interesting jockey booking on Totalize .. Wayne Hutchinson. He won the race on Raya Star.
Williow's Saviour gets in right at the bottom too. Would be quite something if Dan Skelton could land a race like this in his first season. |
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I am satisfied with young Brendan Powell on Recession Proof too - as far as I can ascertain, he's not ridden for Quinn before.
Need another string to my bow but gotta go through the race in detail first. |
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Interesting that BJG opts for Rolling Star though David Bass has a good record for NJH too.
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