Love this meeting. A fourfold of Group 1s to try and crack.
18/11/2013 - Supplementary Entries Close 20/11/2013 - Selections Announcement 05/12/2013 - Barrier Draw 08/12/2013 - Race Date
The Melbourne Cup runners may participate as follows:
Japan Cup on November 24 and/or Hong Kong Vase on December 8 - Red Cadeaux (2nd), Simenon (4th), Dunaden (11th) Hong Kong Vase - Mount Athos (3rd), Dandino (5th)
No Ambitious Dragon this year for the locals, he's out injured. Next Sunday we have the 3 G2 trial races and tomorrow Lucky Nine runs in Aus. gold Fun is proving to be interesting this season so far, California Memory And Military Attack both ran well giving weight away over 1600m 2 weeks ago and looks like they will both run next weekend. The mile race in dec looks like it will be a very good renewal if the intended runners make it.
No Ambitious Dragon this year for the locals, he's out injured. Next Sunday we have the 3 G2 trial races and tomorrow Lucky Nine runs in Aus. gold Fun is proving to be interesting this season so far, California Memory And Military Attack both ran wel
Hello HK :) The section of HKJC that I was looking at didn't have much on it, that's a much better link. Love the fact that you can watch nearly all the races for each horse too.
Military Attack has been in rude health. Was the mile the other week too sharp for him?
Excited about the possibility of Sky Lantern turning up for the mile.
Hello HK :) The section of HKJC that I was looking at didn't have much on it, that's a much better link. Love the fact that you can watch nearly all the races for each horse too.Military Attack has been in rude health. Was the mile the other week too
Hello Fato - booked my tickets to the big day today, 20 of us going this year, it's a cracking day out.
Probably was too sharp for both MA and CM, MA's run looked just like a trial run, wasn't pushed at all. The race next Sunday should be a good race with them both over 2000m, looking forward to seeing it
It looks like Moonlight Cloud is to run in the mile.
Lord Kanaloa is coming back to defend and it looks like Just a Way is going to run in the cup race too instead of the Japan Cup.
Hello Fato - booked my tickets to the big day today, 20 of us going this year, it's a cracking day out.Probably was too sharp for both MA and CM, MA's run looked just like a trial run, wasn't pushed at all. The race next Sunday should be a good race
Doesn't look like Lucky Nine will be arriving in top form after his defeat in Melbourne. Perhaps he just didn't travel well.http://www.scmp.com/sport/racing/article/1352122/lucky-nine-disappoints-melbourne-sprint-feature
Yes, watched it and he just didn't fire at all. He does throw some bad runs in, sometimes when backing up too soon. It's looking like a wide open sprint though. You'll be able to watch the replays of the G2 races from the HKJC website on Sunday. Military Attack v California Memory but don't rule out Rainbow Chic, he has to be one of the unluckiest horses in HK, always finds trouble in running one day it will drop for him. MA has drawn the 10 gate too, CM is in 5. In the sprint I'm looking forward to seeing if Amber Sky can go round the bend - he was brilliant over the straight 1000m last time out.
Yes, watched it and he just didn't fire at all. He does throw some bad runs in, sometimes when backing up too soon. It's looking like a wide open sprint though. You'll be able to watch the replays of the G2 races from the HKJC website on Sunday. Mili
Draw bias at Sha Tin favours low to mid stalls HK?
Will Rainbow Chic most likely target the Cup? b.365 currently have him at 60/1! They've priced up all the G1s now. Military Attack 4/1 and Sky Lantern 5/1 :)
Draw bias at Sha Tin favours low to mid stalls HK?Will Rainbow Chic most likely target the Cup? b.365 currently have him at 60/1! They've priced up all the G1s now. Military Attack 4/1 and Sky Lantern 5/1 :)
Definitely low to mid bias, though you need to take into account style of running - CM will always drop out and finish like the proverbial. Rainbow Chic is entered in the cup, not guaranteed to make the line up yet but to many judges eyes he should have won the HK Derby last year if he'd had a clear run - you can look at replays, I was one who thought he should have won it. MA and CM are proven at the level though and will be very hard to beat.
Definitely low to mid bias, though you need to take into account style of running - CM will always drop out and finish like the proverbial. Rainbow Chic is entered in the cup, not guaranteed to make the line up yet but to many judges eyes he should h
Amber Sky at 14-1 interests me, if he handles the bend he will be right there as his last run over 1000m was 0.5 seconds outside Silent Witness' track record and he carried 7lbs more than Silent Witness did - will have a little on at that price as a just in case.
Amber Sky at 14-1 interests me, if he handles the bend he will be right there as his last run over 1000m was 0.5 seconds outside Silent Witness' track record and he carried 7lbs more than Silent Witness did - will have a little on at that price as a
He did bleed unfortunately, that's the 2nd time he's done it in as many runs over 1200m was looking very good until he hit 150m from home. The interesting run in the 2000m race was Akeed Mofeed who passed CM in the finish after being given a lot to do by Douglas, Military Attack looked like he blew up as he looked like the winner turning in so perhaps he was a little short on fitness. The mile was another good run by Gold Fun but I'm not too sure he'll be good enough to beat the overseas horses, still have to see what Glorious Days does in trials as he's not been seen yet due to a setback and with Ambitious Dragon out it looks as if the home defence of the mile could be weak.
He did bleed unfortunately, that's the 2nd time he's done it in as many runs over 1200m was looking very good until he hit 150m from home. The interesting run in the 2000m race was Akeed Mofeed who passed CM in the finish after being given a lot to d
I'm struggling to see past the favourites, which is a shame really!
The home team have a stranglehold on the Sprint and I think Lord Kanaloa will take all the beating, but I think Slade Power is a bit of ew value at 25/1.
The Mile should be between Moonlight Cloud and Sky Lantern. MC has never won on the road though, and surely 7f with a little cut is her ideal trip. If I could bet without the fav I may have a few quid on Xtension. Currently 80/1 in the win market.
The Cup feels like the most competitive field. I like Military Attack but I have missed the odds.
As for the Vase, I never manage to get the Fugue right. This really is hers for the taking, but at odds of 7/1 I'd rather chance Red Cadeaux retaining his crown.
I'm struggling to see past the favourites, which is a shame really!The home team have a stranglehold on the Sprint and I think Lord Kanaloa will take all the beating, but I think Slade Power is a bit of ew value at 25/1.The Mile should be between Moo
Think the mile is the best race - 7 group 1 winners. The sprint is so dependent on the draw, if Lucky Nine gets the draw then he could turn the tables on LK. Shame that California Memory is out, taken something away from the cup race. I'm thinking The Fugue should be the banker on the day in te vase, but is this an afterthought as she was aimed at the BC?
Think the mile is the best race - 7 group 1 winners. The sprint is so dependent on the draw, if Lucky Nine gets the draw then he could turn the tables on LK. Shame that California Memory is out, taken something away from the cup race. I'm thinking Th
Hard to say. Last season she ran at the BC then got withdrawn from the Vase because she had a temperature. I thus imagine it was part of the plan all along this season.
Agreed it's a shame re California Memory.
Hard to say. Last season she ran at the BC then got withdrawn from the Vase because she had a temperature. I thus imagine it was part of the plan all along this season.Agreed it's a shame re California Memory.
Decent form guide can be found herehttp://www.hkjc.com/english/corporate/racing_news_item.asp?in_file=/english/news/2013-11/news_2013112801326.htmlWill be updated as and when info is available.
Love this meeting and can't wait for next Sunday. Had a look at a few races and I'm going to keep it simple and go with horses I've backed this year. In the HK Cup it's has to be Military Attack, the HK Mile Sky Lantern and in the HK Sprint one of my favourites Lucky Nine (if he gets a good draw).
I'm going to take on Moonlight Cloud because of her poor record outside of France and the quick ground (dry week forecast). 3yr olds haven't got a brilliant record in the HK Mile but Sky Lantern looks the right type for this and will love the ground and track. With Sky Lantern it all depends on how well Hughes rides the race because he might find traffic problems coming from the back but the 7-1 available is good value IMO. Of the home team Dan Excel and Packing Whiz are horses I like but not sure they are good enough to win. Dan Excel is one of those nick it from the front kind of horses that have won this race in the past (Able One, Beauty Flash). If he gets a good draw I might have an EW saver on him.
I'm not too worried about Military Attack's last two runs because they have been warm up races and I'm confident John Moore will have him spot on for this.
Lord Kanaloa is a top class sprinter and will be hard to beat but as mentioned by FS and HK the draw is huge in this race. It's a wait and see for me but Lucky Nine is a favourite of mine and will be the one if he gets a good draw. Lucky Nine and Lord Kanaloa are also very similar because they are both top class 6f sprinters but can also win races at 7f and 8f and that's what I think you need in this race because it usually run at a very strong pace and you need a horse with a bit of stamina to finish it off. Of the two Power horses, I like Slade Power because he has that extra bit of stamina but he can be very iffy in the stalls and you don't want that in this race. He didn't have any problems at Ascot(won) last time so he's an EW maybe for me.
The HK Vase doesn't look the greatest race of the meeting and I don't think The Fugue is great value at her current price. IMO 1m 4f isn't her best trip and the form of her races over 1m 4f don't look that brilliant. The 1m 4f race she won at York, the 2nd and 3rd both bombed in their next races and she only finished marginally in front of some American plodders at Santa Anita. Looking at the rest they all seem to be strong staying types so I will be surprised if this race isn't run at a good pace. I respect Red Cadeaux because of his international race record but his price is a bit short for me so I've backed one I think is an improver at 1m 3f+ trip and that's the Japanese runner Asuka Kurichan. I really like his last two runs which have been over longer trips and in both races he's stayed on powerfully. His last run was his best winning the G2 (Handicap) Copa Republica Argentina, comfortably beating Admire Rakti who was only a length away from winning the Japan Cup last week. His 50-1 price is too big and a bit of an insult so I've backed him EW with the Ray Winston mob.
Love this meeting and can't wait for next Sunday. Had a look at a few races and I'm going to keep it simple and go with horses I've backed this year. In the HK Cup it's has to be Military Attack, the HK Mile Sky Lantern and in the HK Sprint one of my
In the mile I may take a chance on Glorious Days, he's had his issues this season and is going in on 2 trials which may not be ideal but if you take on trust that they wouldn't run him unless he was fully fit you are getting a massive price for him. Gold Fun has been excellent this season and is very professional in all he does but he needs to take another step up, he may be capable but 5-1 is too short.
In the sprint I think Eagle Regiment is way over priced at 22-1, he has been lightly raced over the past few seasons due to issues but he showed he can get 1200m at ST in the previous run when giving 5lbs to all and finishing 3rd - LK is the obvious choice though, he is just all class. I was going to make
The Fugue my banker, but is way too short and is likely to be short on the HKJC too so I'm not too sure what to go for so it's likely to be one for the day - maybe Red Cadeaux to repeat.
My banker now is Military Attack with no CM in the race I'm not convinced he's got that much to beat and will be much shorter than the 4.0 on offer on BF, it should be a cracking day anyway with the sun set to shine and it to be a nice cool day with low humidity - fingers crossed for a few winners!
Hello Mr D and ELG - hope you are well. In the mile I may take a chance on Glorious Days, he's had his issues this season and is going in on 2 trials which may not be ideal but if you take on trust that they wouldn't run him unless he was fully fit y
Props to betfair for putting this up....I'll post something later in the week when the draw comes out...
Don't suppose we can get an Arima Kinen market up too? Or too much to hope for?
Props to betfair for putting this up....I'll post something later in the week when the draw comes out...Don't suppose we can get an Arima Kinen market up too? Or too much to hope for?
Howdy HK, I'm not too bad. It's been an up and down year on the flat for me but really looking forward to one of the best meetings of the year. I have to say I'm very jealous of you and wish I was going to Sha Tin this Sunday.
I was looking at Eagle Regiment as well because I remembered his good run at Meydan earlier on in the year behind Shea Shea but he looks more of a 5f specialist to me. I agree with you 22-1 is a tempting price and his first try over 6f last time out was a good run giving weight away but I have my doubts he will have the staying power to beat Lord Kanaloa and Lucky Nine.
There doesn't seem to be much between the Hong Kong milers and the pace of the race is the big question mark for me. I'm finding it hard to separate the home team challengers but the more I look at the race the sweeter I am on Sky Lantern, her turn of foot on fast ground could prove too hot for some of these. It will be interesting to see what price she is on the day in Hong Kong.
I'm with you regarding Military Attack and sticking with him in the Cup. He's been a different horse this year and looks to be coming back to the boil nicely, John Moore knows what he's doing.
What day does the draw take place HK? I couldn't find the info on the HKJC website!!!
Howdy HK, I'm not too bad. It's been an up and down year on the flat for me but really looking forward to one of the best meetings of the year. I have to say I'm very jealous of you and wish I was going to Sha Tin this Sunday. I was looking at Eagle
I won't keep banging on about how it only costs approx GBP 60 to be in a box all day with food and beer included then as that wouldn't be fair!!! Agreed on ER that he is a 5f specialist but he did look better this time at 6f, I'm just looking at over priced horses at the moment and you never know LK and LN could get the 2 outside draws.
The draw is on Thurs morning after the Happy Valley meeting for the jockey challenge - I'm backing Hughes at 8-1 for the challenge as he's picked up a couple of live chances IMO.
I won't keep banging on about how it only costs approx GBP 60 to be in a box all day with food and beer included then as that wouldn't be fair!!! Agreed on ER that he is a 5f specialist but he did look better this time at 6f, I'm just looking at over
I don't actually think 7/4 is too short for The Fugue. She wasn't given the best of rides last time out remember which had William Buick crying after the race. Mount Athos is the danger to her for me because a couple of times in his career his has looked really classy on good,fast ground. I'm having an eachway on him at 10/1, and putting The Fugue into some multiples with Lord Kanola at 6/4, Military Attack at 3/1, and Gold-Fun at 4/1.
I don't actually think 7/4 is too short for The Fugue. She wasn't given the best of rides last time out remember which had William Buick crying after the race. Mount Athos is the danger to her for me because a couple of times in his career his has lo
You're a lucky boy HK getting all of that for £60. All I will have is a bowl of porridge and an orange juice, what a way to watch top class horse racing!!!
Thanks for the link and draw info HK (not sure HOW I missed the info on FatoteSport's first post)!
Brett Prebble's oozing confidence and it sounds like Lucky Nine is primed to run a massive race. I'm preying for a good draw now HK, I will feel sick if he gets another stinker! If the draw is good I will be putting Lucky Nine, Military Attack and Sky Lantern in an EW treble.
I'm still not sure about The Fugue, she has only won 1 of 4 races against the boys and the 1m 4f race she did win was a very average G1 at York against her own sex. At Santa Anita she was going nowhere at the furlong pole and looked like she was out of puff to me, I really don't think 1m 4f is her trip. Fair enough it's not a vintage G1 race and she is a good filly but I wouldn't want to be backing her at those odds.
She will probably go and win on the bridle now I've posted all of this!!!
You're a lucky boy HK getting all of that for £60. All I will have is a bowl of porridge and an orange juice, what a way to watch top class horse racing!!!Thanks for the link and draw info HK (not sure HOW I missed the info on FatoteSport's first po
Interesting choice for the mile Sint - he has been good this season but do you think his form really adds up to him being a true G1 performer if you look at the weights and proximity of CM and MA having their first runs of the season over what isn't their ideal trip? Think he needs another step up and is 4-1 value to find that out?
Interesting choice for the mile Sint - he has been good this season but do you think his form really adds up to him being a true G1 performer if you look at the weights and proximity of CM and MA having their first runs of the season over what isn't
MrD it costs 80p to get in to the normal enclosure for all meetings! I will post a link for you on Saturday that you can view reviews of the races for Sunday on the local tv station - its in English and it's done for all meetings
MrD it costs 80p to get in to the normal enclosure for all meetings! I will post a link for you on Saturday that you can view reviews of the races for Sunday on the local tv station - its in English and it's done for all meetings
I cannot believe it costs only 80p to get in! I thought 4 euro's at Longchamp on Arc day was cheap! I need to get myself over there next year.
Cheers HK.
I cannot believe it costs only 80p to get in! I thought 4 euro's at Longchamp on Arc day was cheap! I need to get myself over there next year.Cheers HK.
HKD 10 entry, if you want to push the boat out you can go into members enclosure/stand for HKD 100, but you'll have much more fun in the beer garden on a weds night - some marvelous things to take one's eye!
HKD 10 entry, if you want to push the boat out you can go into members enclosure/stand for HKD 100, but you'll have much more fun in the beer garden on a weds night - some marvelous things to take one's eye!
Moonlight Cloud is way ahead of anything in the race HK but like other people I have reservations about fast ground and racing abroad where she has been well beaten previously.
Moonlight Cloud is way ahead of anything in the race HK but like other people I have reservations about fast ground and racing abroad where she has been well beaten previously.
I'm a bit concerned with the vibes coming from the Hannon yard regarding Sky Lantern. Not sure what to make of it but I will be waiting till the day of the race before I back her now, hopefully she will be OK!!! If Dan Excel gets a good draw, he could be the EW play for me, he has got some good form against Glorious Days and some of the other Hong Kong runners. 25-1 seems a decent price for a horse who works well with Military Attack and has been campaigned the same sort of way by John Moore.
I'm a bit concerned with the vibes coming from the Hannon yard regarding Sky Lantern. Not sure what to make of it but I will be waiting till the day of the race before I back her now, hopefully she will be OK!!! If Dan Excel gets a good draw, he coul
It's not that i don't like him Sint he has done nothing wrong this season so far and he may step up again but Dan Excel, as an example, gave him 5lbs and was beaten 2 lengths lto and it was only DE's 2nd up run so 4-1 is a bit too short for me.
Mr D - these were notes from yesterday;
SKY LANTERN (GB)
The filly made her first appearance on the track today, and attracted a mass of media attention.
Assistant trainer Richard Hannon jr said: “She was a bit quiet when she arrived at the weekend, but she is fine now and is eating and drinking plenty. We’re just giving her a quiet canter today.”
It's not that i don't like him Sint he has done nothing wrong this season so far and he may step up again but Dan Excel, as an example, gave him 5lbs and was beaten 2 lengths lto and it was only DE's 2nd up run so 4-1 is a bit too short for me.Mr D -
Reversal on the draw in the sprint this year http://www.hkjc.com/english/corporate/racing_news_item.asp?in_file=/english/news/2013-12/news_2013120501217.html
Yep, I think your spot on with that HK regarding Sky Lantern. I will be having Dan Excel as my EW saver, pretty good draw for him. GD and GF got a couple of stinkers.
I'm a bit worried with Military Attack in 9. His best runs have been when he's sat just off the pace. He could struggle to get an ideal position from there!!!
Yep, I think your spot on with that HK regarding Sky Lantern. I will be having Dan Excel as my EW saver, pretty good draw for him. GD and GF got a couple of stinkers.I'm a bit worried with Military Attack in 9. His best runs have been when he's sat j
9 is not ideal at all but he has won from wide draws before as he does have some gate speed to sit just off if he can get in, Side Glance in 2 means he could do what he did in Aus from there.
9 is not ideal at all but he has won from wide draws before as he does have some gate speed to sit just off if he can get in, Side Glance in 2 means he could do what he did in Aus from there.
Couple of stats for you if that's what floats your boat - no horse drawn over gate 9 has won the sprint since it was moved to 1200m in 2006. 19 runnings of the vase only 4 times have horses won that were drawn in double digits.
Couple of stats for you if that's what floats your boat - no horse drawn over gate 9 has won the sprint since it was moved to 1200m in 2006. 19 runnings of the vase only 4 times have horses won that were drawn in double digits.
The sprint is the interesting one - there have been some decent horses drawn high too. If you like Lord K I would suggest the price will be bigger on the HKJC on Sunday than it currently is, think Lucky Nine will get a lot of cash.
The sprint is the interesting one - there have been some decent horses drawn high too. If you like Lord K I would suggest the price will be bigger on the HKJC on Sunday than it currently is, think Lucky Nine will get a lot of cash.
Agree with Sint regarding the draw stats for the HK Vase. They have all of the home straight to sort themselves out so I wouldn't be worried with a high draw.
Agree with Sint regarding the draw stats for the HK Vase. They have all of the home straight to sort themselves out so I wouldn't be worried with a high draw.
Dr Dino was the last winner from a double digit draw (2008) and the only placed horse in the race drawn in double digits since Six Sense came 2nd to Ouija Board in 2005 so not great stats - I do agree with you though that they do have 2f before the bend so should be able to sort themselves out but these stats are worse than the mile race where there isn't such a bias. I haven't looked at the prices of those unplaced horses drawn wide and can't be bothered to do so as I know what I'm doing in that race anyway - it was just a bit of info should you take those things in to consideration.
Dr Dino was the last winner from a double digit draw (2008) and the only placed horse in the race drawn in double digits since Six Sense came 2nd to Ouija Board in 2005 so not great stats - I do agree with you though that they do have 2f before the b
Some interesting stuff HK, it's surprising how some stat's work out. I never thought it would that biased in the HK Vase!
The one I've backed is in 10!!!
Some interesting stuff HK, it's surprising how some stat's work out. I never thought it would that biased in the HK Vase!The one I've backed is in 10!!!
Just had a quick look and those drawn high are usually longer priced runners so that balances it out a little - double digits in the main, Dr Dino was fav when he won in 08 drawn 12.
Just had a quick look and those drawn high are usually longer priced runners so that balances it out a little - double digits in the main, Dr Dino was fav when he won in 08 drawn 12.
First multiple bets onFourfoldSky Lantern 6.50 Hong Kong Mile - 08/12/2013Red Cadeaux 9.00 Hong Kong Vase - 08/12/2013Lucky Nine 5.00 Hong Kong Sprint - 08/12/2013Military Attack 4.00 Hong Kong Cup - 08/12/20131 bets @ £5.00Stake £5.00Estimated Ret
Looks like a decent bet F, I will post my multiple bet on Saturday night my time (I'm changing my mind frequently) - unfortunately it will be SP only on HKJC but at least they do accept all up bets.....my main bets will be done as singles on the day and I'm not too sure I can post from my phone as I can't access the forum by the ap. If you are watching live race 2 and 6 are decent too.
Looks like a decent bet F, I will post my multiple bet on Saturday night my time (I'm changing my mind frequently) - unfortunately it will be SP only on HKJC but at least they do accept all up bets.....my main bets will be done as singles on the day
7801 07-12-2013 13:28 Sha Tin Sunday All Up Win 4X11 $50
Race 4 11 THE FUGUE Race 5 2 LUCKY NINE Race 7 14 SKY LANTERN Race 8 1 MILITARY ATTACK
$550.00
Only 1 different to yours Fato - the $ is HKD.
Will back them as singles on the day, or change my mind but this is on as a multiple. I like Mt Athos, Frederick Engels, Dan Excel and Side Glance as EW bets as singles too - may do a place only multiple on them.
7801 07-12-201313:28 Sha TinSunday All Up Win 4X11 $50Race 4 11 THE FUGUERace 5 2 LUCKY NINERace 7 14 SKY LANTERNRace 8 1 MILITARY ATTACK$550.00 Only 1 different to yours Fato - the $ is HKD.Will back them as singles on
I've placed two EW Lucky 15 bets and an ante post bet on Asuka Kurichan (50-1 EW) in the Vase. I will probably add a couple of single EW bets as well but my main bet of the meeting will be Lucky Nine.
Freddy Engels was one I was looking at last night HK. He's got a good draw and his run in the Premier Bowl (G2 Handicap) was very good considering he was carrying a lot more weight than the others. His last run can be forgiven because he was drawn wide (12)! Very interesting contender who has slipped under the radar. If Lucky Nine wasn't running he would be the EW play.
EW Lucky 15 Bet 1 Vase: Asuka Kurichan @ 33/1 Sprint: Lucky Nine @ 4/1 Mile: Sky Lantern @ 11/2 Cup: Military Attack @ 3/1
EW Lucky 15 Bet 2 Vase: Asuka Kurichan @ 33/1 Sprint: Lucky Nine @ 4/1 Mile: Dan Excel @ 25/1 Cup: Military Attack @ 3/1
Have a great day HK, it looks and sounds like it will be absolutely fantastic!!!
Good luck all.
Great minds think a like!!! I've placed two EW Lucky 15 bets and an ante post bet on Asuka Kurichan (50-1 EW) in the Vase. I will probably add a couple of single EW bets as well but my main bet of the meeting will be Lucky Nine.Freddy Engels was one
I'm hoping I get some extra to play with from race 2 where I like the 3, the fav is the obvious selection and won well last time out but I think this race is easier than Destined for Glory has run in this season and at the moment he's 10-1 so a good EW play.
Mr D - this is my 6th one in a row, Snow Fairy is the best memory so far.
GL to you too.I'm hoping I get some extra to play with from race 2 where I like the 3, the fav is the obvious selection and won well last time out but I think this race is easier than Destined for Glory has run in this season and at the moment he's 1
Sha Tin is the one racecourse I would love to go to. Maybe next year, if I can get the funds together!!! 6th in a row, you know how to rub salt in the wound HK!
Some great memories over the last few years but Pride holding off Admire Moon was a real favourite of mine, especially after her agonising defeat to Vengeance Of Rain the previous year.
Snow Fairy was electric that day, another one of Dunlop's that thrived on traveling to the other side of the world!!
Sha Tin is the one racecourse I would love to go to. Maybe next year, if I can get the funds together!!! 6th in a row, you know how to rub salt in the wound HK! Some great memories over the last few years but Pride holding off Admire Moon was a real
I have lived her for 6 years so it would be criminal not to go - probably the best value racing I have been to.
As I mentioned before if you do get to come you would have to come from the Weds before so you could take in Happy Valley too as that place is mental.
Sha Tin is massive it takes almost 100k people - the only thing missing are bookmakers and being in the hands of late money from the syndicates if you think you've found a good value proposition. Though you don't have any worries about being paid out or getting on for any sum, 6 of us won the Triple Trio one weds night and got paid out HKD 432k in cash as soon as the weigh in sign was posted for the final leg.
I have lived her for 6 years so it would be criminal not to go - probably the best value racing I have been to. As I mentioned before if you do get to come you would have to come from the Weds before so you could take in Happy Valley too as that plac
I have a had a look into it, flights and hotels are not as expensive as I thought. If I did go, I would head out on the Monday before the meeting and come back the following Monday so Happy Valley would fit in nicely on the Wednesday. Hopefully one of my Lucky 15 bets comes in!
That Triple Trio was a good pay out!!!
Yep, that would be criminal HK.I have a had a look into it, flights and hotels are not as expensive as I thought. If I did go, I would head out on the Monday before the meeting and come back the following Monday so Happy Valley would fit in nicely on
This may be of interest to you - it's the racing to win show that they air the night before each meeting, you can click on each race number to get the analysis of the team for that specific race.
http://www.hkjc.com/english/press/showcase.asp
This may be of interest to you - it's the racing to win show that they air the night before each meeting, you can click on each race number to get the analysis of the team for that specific race.http://www.hkjc.com/english/press/showcase.asp
Vase - The Fugue. Class Act in the race. The Magician put in a crazy final quarter to beat her last time. sub 22 seconds. Really don't think the likes of Simeon and Mount Athos can match that.
Sprint - Lucky 9. Thought it was a fine run in the Manikato behind Buffering...just didn't handle the straight track at Flemington on Oaks Day....should be a lot fitter now, handy draw and hopefully blows this lot away.
Mile - Sky Lantern eachway at the prices...Guineas Winner, Coronation Stakes winner when draw way out in the car park and then probably her best performance when taking the Sun Chariot. The put her away straight after with this race firmly on the agenda.
Cup - Military Attack groupie. The Draw is tricky but if he's back to that Singapore Airlines performance then he takes this.
right lets see how many I get wrong....Vase - The Fugue. Class Act in the race. The Magician put in a crazy final quarter to beat her last time. sub 22 seconds. Really don't think the likes of Simeon and Mount Athos can match that.Sprint - Lucky 9. T
I've also got a fiver on that quad ELG at 251/1. Would kick myself if The Foog won and let down a fourfold :D
Despite the poor draw I can't help but think Slade Power is a big price. Potentially massive on HKJC too. Is there any way I can get HKJC prices in the UK? Can you get place odds too?
Would love to go to this meet one day. A Wednesday night at Happy Valley was the closest I got, but that was excellent.
I've also got a fiver on that quad ELG at 251/1. Would kick myself if The Foog won and let down a fourfold :DDespite the poor draw I can't help but think Slade Power is a big price. Potentially massive on HKJC too. Is there any way I can get HKJC pri
Well we've got 4 happy people or 4 suckers.....after watching the tv analysis I'm not convinced we are right about the girls but I'm on anyway so I can't do my usual and change my mind and then watch in horror as my original selection skates home. I suspect I might now just do the we selections I made as singles - depends how drunk I am....the trouble is I have a lot of people paying me cash today for their ticket which is always a danger!!
Good luck all
Well we've got 4 happy people or 4 suckers.....after watching the tv analysis I'm not convinced we are right about the girls but I'm on anyway so I can't do my usual and change my mind and then watch in horror as my original selection skates home. I
The draw may have done him but Neatico at 44.0 on here looks a huge price for the Cup. Suspect he will be huge odds on HK tote also.
I'm hearing Gold Fun is 6/4 over there in the mile!
The draw may have done him but Neatico at 44.0 on here looks a huge price for the Cup. Suspect he will be huge odds on HK tote also.I'm hearing Gold Fun is 6/4 over there in the mile!
Nightmare for me in the Vase and Sprint, no pace in the Vase and Lucky Nine rearing in the stalls were not what I was looking for. Lord Kanaloa was awesome today and even if Lucky Nine had broke well he wouldn't have won.
John Moore's horses are on fire today!
Nightmare for me in the Vase and Sprint, no pace in the Vase and Lucky Nine rearing in the stalls were not what I was looking for. Lord Kanaloa was awesome today and even if Lucky Nine had broke well he wouldn't have won.John Moore's horses are on fi
Thought The Fugue got a poor ride, think a local jock may have won on her. Great training performance to get Glorious Days to win, was heavily backed just at the off. Lord K was awesome but the race was marred - and showing the patrol replay on all the screens wasn't necessary as you saw it all head on. Did my conkers until getting out in the lucky last. Always next year.....
Thought The Fugue got a poor ride, think a local jock may have won on her. Great training performance to get Glorious Days to win, was heavily backed just at the off. Lord K was awesome but the race was marred - and showing the patrol replay on all t
Hope you had a good day HK, glad to hear you got out of the plop in the lucky last. Mine was pretty desperate to say the least and sort of sums up my 2013 flat season!!!
I agree with you about Buick's ride on The Fugue, Zac Purton made his move perfectly coming into the straight from last position. Buick got into a right pickle, the slow pace should have played into his hands against a bunch 1m 4f+ horses but he managed to **** it right up not getting a good position from decent draw. 1 in 5 against the boys now and I'm not sure she's as good as some people make out! The same can be said of Mount Athos, he really is one of those horses who gets talked up a lot because of his track work but very rarely shows it on the course. Too many excuses for me now and I didn't back him or The Fugue.
Lord Kanola is an absolute beast but what's amazing, he's managed to win all these G1 races with Yasunari Iwata on board. He has to be the worst jockey I ever seen, his riding style is just horrible to watch. Wretched jockey!
You were right about Glorious Days and his trainer was very bullish as well before the race saying it was the best he's ever had him. Should of took the hint!
The bad vibes about Sky Lantern proved correct and should have left alone, they even said her blood samples were not very good when she arrived in Hong Kong!!! Don't back 3yr olds in the HK Mile, they don't win.
I had my doubts about Military Attack performing to his best with the draw he got and it proved that way. Also after watching the race I'm not sure he wants really quick ground! He's never won on Good to Firm and his best performances have always been when the track is Good or Good to Soft. His two big G1 wins earlier in the season at Sha Tin and Singapore were raced on tracks which had a lot of rain during the week of the race. He's by Oratorio and they normally perform better with a bit of cut in the ground and I think his results have now proved that to be the case for him as well. Hopefully next year he will get his ground, if he does I'm confident he will turn the tables on the ones that beat him yesterday.
Hope you had a good day HK, glad to hear you got out of the plop in the lucky last. Mine was pretty desperate to say the least and sort of sums up my 2013 flat season!!!I agree with you about Buick's ride on The Fugue, Zac Purton made his move perfec
I'm a big fan of Buick but as James Willoughby said on RUK recently, The Fugue either makes him look incompetent or he has rode a couple of shockers. Much to my cost as I have backed her both times. Hey ho.
I'm a big fan of Buick but as James Willoughby said on RUK recently, The Fugue either makes him look incompetent or he has rode a couple of shockers. Much to my cost as I have backed her both times. Hey ho.