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BJT, you think Cirrus will will then?
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Cirrus Des Aigles has only run twice with the word "firm" in the going description (from 38 runs). RP says good/firm.
The rain needs to arrive and get into the ground. |
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Its was g/f when he won in Dubai last year. He does prefer it on the easy side & is a better horse over 10f. Hope he wins 2day & think he will if at his best or near to it.
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An overrated horse at under the odds, surely a lay then?
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Yeah, just waiting to see if it goes lower before I pull the trigger.
Looking to lay CDA, and will be backing UNIVERSAL and EKTIHAAM. Was on Trading Leather last start but just not enough there for me to back up again on it so sticking with those 3 plays... |
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Course Ascot
Next Race Saturday 27th July Report Date Saturday 27th July; 10:45 am Going Good to Firm (Good in places) GoingStick Standside: 8.6, Centre: 8.4, Farside: 8.4, Round: 8.0 Unless it dries up considerably over the next few hours, that is just Good. No idea how they come to the conclusion of Good To Firm but based on the readings they are required to use for their description that is right on the money GOOD... |
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For the record, to back up my post at 1:21 PM BST
Report Date Tuesday 19th June; 8:30 am Going Good to Soft Going Stick Standside: 8.1, Centre: 8.3, Farside: 8.1, Round: 7.4 Course Ascot Next Race Saturday 27th July Report Date Saturday 27th July; 10:45 am Going Good to Firm (Good in places) GoingStick Standside: 8.6, Centre: 8.4, Farside: 8.4, Round: 8.0 |
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Ascot readings are misleading and dependent on vertidraining
As just proved the 1st race was .30 outside henrythenavigators track record |
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yes quick ground today and an 8mph wind behind them
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although I dont make the ground as fast as it was on 2nd and 3rd day of royal ascot this year
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You'll have to ask Stickells how often they vertidrain, but you can get funny reading, thats from the horses mouth(or rather clerks)
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yeah we used to get readings in the 10s ans 11s. think it was 10 odd when henrythenavigator won
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The day HTN won, it was the slowest of the day though. First time racing on the track, as every race set the course record.
We are talking about records of 5 years, where there is very very limited racing of Group quality on it. For example, Miss Andretti ran the next race over 5F in 57.44. So we are talking 1 extra furlong, and that taking 15 seconds to complete, in a sprint race. The track was obviously fast that day, but to suggest that record means anything is a bit of a joke. Doesn't really matter what sort of uphill/downhill figures are relevant to that course, it is obvious that a fast run race would have netted a time closer to 1:11. That being said, being .3 outside of the course record, where only a handful of statistics can be found, when the course record was run at least 1.5 seconds slower than it should have been certainly doesn't equate to a fast track. Certainly not on that basis alone anyway. |
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Well its gone faster than this years RA 2yo winners, the Jubilee winner and the Wokingham winner for a start so id say it isnt good ground
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Yes, but we are talking about the G1 race, which isn't run on the straight don't forget....
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that hcap was 1m 37.78
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that's a similar time to the britannia stakes this year so thats very quick ground
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The ground is hard to heavy.
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Either way, have Galician and Trail Blaze running for me in that one, and got Yeager in the last.
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New track record for Galician as announced on channel 4
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Very fast ground judging by those times, it's possible that it's already quickened up after the first race. Round course is often, but not always, a bit slower, but would be surprised if it was any slower than good to firm judging by how quick the straight is.
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Maybe the horses are quicker.
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very good performance from Novellist there. course record
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2 secs quicker than harbinger. this is firm
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Dont take any notice of readings at this gaff
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I have it in my Tote Ten To Follow but not in real life. Backed Trading Leather for small money.
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Hugely impressive - well done backers.
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I will prove to you it is not firm.
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Trading Leather might have got closer had he not pulled hard early
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GOING: GOOD TO FIRM (GOOD IN PLACES).
Must be true. |
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If it was a swimming pool the clerk would have good in the description.
Same for a concrete runway. |
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Trainer said that CDA had improved again since last run. I actually believe it.
Novellist, beat him 4.5L last run in soft, and 6+ today. Any guesses as to rating? Has to be pushing 155 for Novellist.... rotflmfao |
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Leave Frankel out of this.
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^I wouldn't have mentioned it if CDA had won.
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Frankel?
CDA is rated nearly 140? This horse has gone back to back runs beating him total 11-12 lengths over slow and fast ground... If he can do that to a horse that has apparantly improved and trained on, and rated around 140, then this must be the best we have seen... |
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fast by 5.40. nice
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I'll probably be going around 129/130 for the winner on my figures, I'm quite confident the 2nd and 3rd have run close to my previous figures for them. I'll do them later
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Timeform will have it 150 minimum.... Have to...
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