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Will Bobs Worth relish the gold cup trip at Cheltenham?
Will Bobs Worth relish the gold cup trip at Cheltenham?
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bazzar, i think you're breeding influences may be past their use by date...Man O'War, Ballyogan, Alycidon
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I assume you would have been looking for a PRESVIS influence,
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I noticed SPEARMINT in there as well, so that should give you something to chew on, DUNCAN.
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Just a pointer, a pretty decent guide is SYNCHRONISED who,
though not an exact replica to BOBS WORTH, has a similar pedigree at least within 3 sires on both sides, BOB BACK, SADDLERS WELLS. |
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There have been a few Saddlers wells national winners?
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Sorry, Bosra Shame, I have to admit that Silviniaco Conti did beat Bobs Worth in the 2011 Feltham and, if you'd like to take that form literally, you can now back Silviniaco Conti at 7-1. By common consent, Bobs Worth didn't show his form there or at Ascot and I'd be prepared to say he's a much better horse with great Cheltenham Festival form. On balance I know who looks the likelier winner to me.
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On the Feltham I think there are strong grounds for suggesting that neither gave their true running there and a line should be put through the race where both horses are concerned.
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id put a line through it as far as Grand Crus is concerned as well,as he aint been that good since,and sometimes rubbish!!
SC and Bobs look a lot better than him now. |
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in fact may as well just forget the race imo
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I think it would be complete madness to take the Feltham form literally.
In terms of the rain, I have long thought one yr it would turn up bottomless and the rain we have had this yr is staggering. Nevertheless, I am not (at this stage) expecting bottomless this yr. Lets not forget, the 2008 Bula was abandoned due to rain. That same yr the water table I think was also fairly high (though obviously not as it is this yr) because the November meeting was pretty soft (though not equivalent to this yr), the Friday of December was wet, the Bula was abandoned due to ground, New Yrs Day was pretty soft and January was officially 'heavy', which it unquestionably was. Yet come March and the ground had improved considerably. Even with record rainfall, that drainage should not be underestimated. I would not read the signs at this stage as pointing towards silly (or old-fashiioned!) going and 2008/2009 maybe gives us a clue. |
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Its not a case of expecting it as such for me,but more a careful with my bets sort of approach,cos the possibility of soft or heavy ground does exist.
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Technically the possibility exists every year, but this yr the signs are more suggestive, I agree! I feel sure though, one year it will turn up heavy and although the drainage has reduced that prospect, it has not eliminated it.
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yes RC,it can never be elimintaed cos it depends when it rains,and theres nothing that can be done about that.
The big difference this year as opposed to others is the levels of the water tables. They are so high that its going to take time for them to go down,and any bit of rain just tops it back up again. We need a prolonged dry spell to get the levels down,and then we can start to think about a good/soft festival. If we dont get that spell,i think a soft ground festival is likely. |
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Any one seen the entries for this, as betting suspended?
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