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Hibore
24 Dec 12 13:45
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How is this trading at such a high price. Have spent a few hours watching prior races and studying the form.

My conclusion was that Long Run was the most likely winner and is "rock solid" at 9/4. Stamina will be at a premium to win this race and he has proved himself numerous times. The only problem is his sloppy jumping at times and with this race likely to be run at a faster pace (in the first mile) than previous KG's he's been in there is my only doubt.

Of all the horses I've watched stepping up in trip FNS looked the most likely to appreciate the extra trip. He looks a little bit of a nutcase but has run on in all his races..watch even when beaten...behind Cue Card....the Jewson...Sandown behind AlFerof and at Ascot last time. At 44 win and 7.4 a place I think that is value.

PP has ducked him and is only 20/1.

Any thoughts ?
Pause Switch to Standard View For Non Stop..overpriced ?
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Report harry callaghan December 24, 2012 2:00 PM GMT
seems to jump much better left handed and was trained for the minute to win at aintree...not a forlorn hope however and at 44+ to win there are far worse long shots...

his form reads well.... but a nigging feeling he is better left handed on a flat track...also not sure this ground is in his favour as seems much better on good... but all the best
Report Hibore December 24, 2012 2:10 PM GMT
It was very heavy at Ascot last time and he finished well. Being held up in this field may prove to be a blessing if they go fast up front.
Report flyingbolt December 24, 2012 3:17 PM GMT
For Non Stop tried 3m over hurdles and was tailed off.He was reported to have broken a blood vessel but Nick Williams hasn't tried him again over the trip.
I can't say he's ever struck me as a horse crying out for a step up in trip.
The other thing is the ground. While he seems to act on it he doesn't seem to jump very well in it.
Report red and white December 25, 2012 3:20 PM GMT
Looks very uncomfortable going right to me.
Report Hibore December 25, 2012 6:17 PM GMT
Got within a head of Al Ferof going that way.

Fair point if you dismiss that run.
Report 1st time poster December 25, 2012 7:38 PM GMT
with heavy ground what brain surgeon reckons they zre going to faster than the last 2 king georges
Report Fallen Angel December 25, 2012 10:34 PM GMT
The more I look at this race the more I think its quite a top class King George renewal. Yes the King has gone, but the field looks on average stronger than previous renewals. There a number of kempton specialists (Long Run, Riverside, Grand Crus) as well as some interesting prospects especially Cue Card. A horse will probably need to run into the high 160s to place. TBF there shouldn't be such a discrepancy between CC and FNS given that FNS was staying on at the end and giving away 6 pounds. My worry would be the trip as they clearly thought FNS was a 2m horse before the Ascot race. The same could be said of many though and you are getting a decent price to find out.
Report judorick December 25, 2012 10:45 PM GMT
FNS was getting 7lbs and was beaten 4 lengths, has virtually no chance of reversing form with CC on that form
Report buddeliea December 26, 2012 8:00 AM GMT
that was over a lot less though Judo,with the extra distance and the heavy ground that form could be ripped up.
at the prices hes worth a small punt imo
theres no telling how some of these will cope today with stepping up in heavy ground,so to take a chance on a 44 shot is ok i reckon,especially when you consider other horses are doing the same at a lot smaller price.
Report roobuck December 26, 2012 8:51 AM GMT
Nonner
Report buddeliea December 26, 2012 8:51 AM GMT
yep,shame
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