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harchibald
16 Dec 12 00:40
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Will David Pipe pull off the training performance of his life to get Grands Crus to the King George VI Chase in 10 days time with a real chance ?

As David said, the horse will tell them when he's ready. It don't matter what the owners or trainer thinks.

Last time we heard that it was about another son of Dom Alco who came good at the last minute and Al Ferof stepped forward and duly obliged at Cheltenham.

I'm balls deep in a voucher at 6/1 for a large sum. I have a vested interest. I wouldn't be backing with counterfeit until confirmed though.

If he's good, he's 'back' at 100% then he's the winner. I see that as a 40/1 chance though to be honest.

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Report Angel Gabrial December 16, 2012 6:32 AM GMT
Al Ferof was recovering from a cut. Grands Crus needs to recover from breathing issues, that is a big difference.

Don`t hold your own breath Harch.
Report sintonian December 16, 2012 11:37 AM GMT
He has two poor runs to overcome. Avoid.
Report ReaseHeath December 16, 2012 2:52 PM GMT
^ what he said plus ignore anything the trainer says (apart from reminding yourself what he said before GC's last two runs as opposed to after them!)
Report baNjackst December 16, 2012 4:36 PM GMT
wind operations are very common these days and there was plenty of time between the op and the race if that was the only problem. I myself invested heavily in anti post market and hope the horse gets to the course sound although as I already stated I believe the is other problems and that he is not the same horse as he was this time last year. without anything been publicly stated I assume something when wrong sometime between his run at Kempton and the Cheltenham festival. He had no run in between which is strange prep for a grade 1 novice. but thats only my opinion.
Report buddeliea December 16, 2012 5:02 PM GMT
Same as Sint says above.
Report roobuck December 16, 2012 5:28 PM GMT
I'm sorry he stopped too quick and most pertinently to me too far out in the PP to be simply a wind issue.

I agree harchi if the horse that won the Feltham turns up he's close to being the winner but too much happened since
Report harchibald December 16, 2012 8:47 PM GMT
Their every waking moment at Pond House is going to be dedicated, absolutely dedicated, to getting him there if he is truly back. If not they won't run him.

Pipe on record as saying he's the best he has ever trained. Now that's high praise indeed and David Pipe isn't one to trot that sort of thing out without backing it up. One day he'll come back and prove this. It may not be Boxing Day but I sure hope it is. He made Conti, Ferof, Cue Card, Bobs Worth all look average last season. I simply can't have it that the horse is gone at the game, I genuinely think it's breathing. Bobs Worth had the same thing and he came back better than ever.
Report johntucker December 16, 2012 10:11 PM GMT
At what stage last season did he make Al Ferof look average?
Report duffy December 17, 2012 3:54 AM GMT
^
I was wondering that......incidentally, one thing sticks in my mind, wasn't the quote a few days after the PP something along the lines of " we've had him checked out and it appears he has a wind issue, I thought it was a strange turn of phrasePlain
Report Brooksielad December 17, 2012 7:24 AM GMT
There's that much bull sh it that comes out that yard I'm not surprised there's a wind issue
Report buddeliea December 17, 2012 7:44 AM GMT
Laugh
Report Workforce December 17, 2012 11:25 AM GMT
"As David said, the horse will tell them when he's ready. It don't matter what the owners or trainer thinks."

Hate this phrase - complete load of whatever imo.

Horse looks gone, not sure i'd want to back it even if apparent wind issue has been resolved. Where is statement "best he's ever trained" please? Also not sure his Feltham victory is as good as some people think. BW had breathing issue during the race, whilst Silviniaco Conti just looks a different horse this year.
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