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Anaglogs Daughter
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299D JNwine.com Champion S'chase (Grade 1)

€84,000.00 ( 3m - 5yo+ )[MAX 18]

FIRST FORFEIT: 29-OCT-12
SUPPLEMENTARY ENTRY: 29-OCT-12


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05113 1 Bob Lingo(151) (TMullins)  11,10

2 Cannington Brook (C Tizzard) (GB)11,10

7-32b 3 Chicago Grey(147) (G Elliott) 11,10

2-234 4 First Lieutenant(154) (M F Morris)11,10

4412p 5 Follow The Plan(160) (O McKiernan) 11,10

6 Join Together (P Nicholls (in GB))  11,10

3127- 7 Joncol (P Nolan) 11,10

-731- 8 Kauto Stone (FR) (P Nicholls (in GB)) 11,10

46pp5 9 Magnanimity(140) (D T Hughes) 11,10

22-2p 10 Noble Prince (GER)(158) (P Nolan)  11,10

1113- 11 Quito De La Roque (FR)(160) (C A Murphy) 11,10

2-520 12 Realt Dubh(160) (N Meade) 11,10

53585 13 Roi Du Mee (FR)(145) (G Elliott)  11,10

p7121 14 Shakervilz (FR)(135) (W P Mullins) 11,10

15 Silviniaco Conti (FR) (PNicholls (in GB))  11,10

-1211 16 Sizing Europe(171) (H de Bromhead 11,10

17 Tidal Bay ( PNicholls (in GB)) 11,10

p0311 18 Blazing Tempo(153) (W P Mullins) 11,03
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Report Anaglogs Daughter October 23, 2012 3:44 PM BST
Quito De La Roque is set to attempt to defend his crown in the JNwine.com Champion Chase at Down Royal on 3 November.

Colm Murphy's charge got up close home to deny Sizing Europe in the three-mile feature but only ran once more last term, when third to Synchronised in the Lexus Chase at Leopardstown in late December.

"More than likely we'll start him in Down Royal again in the race he won last year. He seems well and is probably a bit more forward this year than last year. We had a good few stop starts," Murphy told At The Races.

"All's going well and fingers crossed he stays well for the next couple of weeks.

"I suppose we'll be looking at the obvious races like Leopardstown at Christmas and so forth.

"There was a lot of talk last year and we did plenty of dreaming about him.

"I think we'll take it race by race. He's had his fair share of problems and if he doesn't have any recurrence of those, you'd be hopeful of going for some of the better staying chases."
Report shockster October 23, 2012 6:44 PM BST
Why do they keep trying 3m with Sizing Europe?

It appears quite a competitive field without 3 mile Superstars, but it would be a poor renewal if QDLR wins again.
Report strontium October 23, 2012 10:48 PM BST
Any thoughts on which Nicholls will send over? They will make the race really.
Report revedesivola October 23, 2012 11:15 PM BST
not sure, id love to see tidal bay go
Report Glossy October 23, 2012 11:26 PM BST
Kauto Stone surely won't stay 3m? Massively overrated horse in my opinion.

At first glance, the two that look most attractive are Blazing Tempo with the mares allowance and the trip-proven Follow The Plan providing it stays dry.

I like Silviniaco Conti but would be concerned that he doesn't seem to be at his best when fresh.
Report revedesivola October 23, 2012 11:48 PM BST
re silv conti, nicholls said before his seasonal debut last year hed come on for the run. id imagine if he goes here for his first run, he will be fully fit and ready to go
Report shockster October 24, 2012 8:57 AM BST
I'd be tempted by whichever Nicholls sends actually.  Out of the Irish, I'd go with Joncol if it's soft to improve for his first run.  Like everything though, it all depends on the prices.
Report strontium October 24, 2012 11:00 AM BST
If it's G-S at worst Sizing Europe might be of interest  he was only chinned on the line last year because the ground was dreadful and he raced the Nicholls horse (Nightingale??) from so far out. First Liuetenant must surtely go close in this if he has any claims to be a Gold Cup contender.
Report shockster October 24, 2012 1:17 PM BST
Trainer Paul Nolan is confident Joncol will "strip a lot fitter" for his comeback run at Punchestown last week.
The dual Grade One-winning nine-year-old was a hot favourite for the Star "Best For Racing Coverage" Chase on his first start since December, but could only finish third in the extremely testing conditions.

He is now set for a return to the highest level in the JNwine.com Champion Chase at Down Royal on November 3rd.

Nolan said: "Everything is fine with him. He was a bit rung-rusty and he looked big in the parade ring beforehand.

"The ground was so testing he just got very tired at the end due to the lack of a run.

"He seems well since, though, and will strip a lot fitter for the run.
Report revedesivola October 24, 2012 1:30 PM BST
ive never taken to joncol. i think hes too slow
Report sintonian October 24, 2012 9:02 PM BST
Joncol appears to have had too many setbacks to recapture the form of previous years imo.

Join Together is a dour stayer, would be interesting if it was testing. As would Tidal Bay!
Report the clipper October 26, 2012 9:38 PM BST
realt dubh heading for this dont think he wull stay
Report strontium October 29, 2012 2:15 PM GMT
And then there were 12. Only Kauto stone left in from Nicholls. First Lieut also entered at Wetherby on Saturday.
Report sintonian October 29, 2012 3:02 PM GMT
Is FL likely to travel over or stay at home for a G1 ? Likely to remain in Ireland imo.

All depends on the ground here to decided the winner ..
Report Anaglogs Daughter October 29, 2012 3:39 PM GMT
6 took out, 12 left in from 1st stage decs


JNwine.com Champion Steeplechase (Grade 1) (5yo+) Winner €84,000 ATR
Good To Soft 3m Number of runners: 12




140000.00 For 5yo+ Weights 5yo 11st 8lb; 6yo+ 11st 10lb Allowances mares 7lb Penalty value 1st €84,000.00 2nd €26,600.00 3rd €12,600.00 4th €4,200.00 5th €2,100.00 6th €700.00


1  05113  Bob Lingo 42  10  Thomas Mullins 50   151  143 149
bay gelding Bob´s Return — Pharlingo (Phardante (FR))

John P McManus

22Sep12    Lis 20Hy HcH 13K  11-2 3/7 (13½L Drive Time 11-10) t 3/1  Mark Walsh  129 * *
31Aug12    Kln 22Sft HcH 12K  10-6 1/15 (¾L King Ali 10-5) t 4/1F  Mark Walsh  119 * *
01Aug12    Gal 22Sft HcCh 100K  10-3 1/20 (5L Casey Top 9-11) t 16/1  Mark Walsh  139 * *
18Jul12    Kln 14Y 4K  10-5 2/10 (12L Chamonix 9-5) t 9/1  Fran Berry  — * *
24Jun12    Gow 16Sft HcH 8K  11-0 5/15 (11L Golanbrook 11-2) t 14/1  Mark Walsh  120 * *
13May12    Kln 17Gd HcH 27K  10-5 17/18 (24L Satu 9-9) t 12/1  Alan Crowe  121 * *



2  15185-  Cannington Brook 203   8  Colin Tizzard 43   —  130 150
bay gelding Winged Love — Rosie Brook (Be My Native (USA))

Mrs Sara Biggins & Mrs Celia Djivanovic

14Apr12    Ain 25Gd C1HcChL 34K  11-7 5/14 (36L Saint Are 10-13) 25/1  Brendan Powell  150 * *
14Mar12    Chl 25Gd C1ChG1 74K  11-4 8/9 (56L Bobs Worth 11-4) 33/1  Joe Tizzard  150 * *
18Feb12    Hay 20Hy C3NvHcCh 8K  11-12 1/8 (35L Majala 11-5) 100/30  Tom O'Brien  135 * *
27Dec11    Chp 30Hy C1HcChG3 51K  10-2 5/20 (31L Le Beau Bai 10-1) 15/2  Tom O'Brien  132 * *
17Dec11    Hay 24Hy C2HcCh 19K  10-9 1/11 (1L Our Island 10-9) 3/1  Tom O'Brien  128 * *
03Dec11    Chp 24Hy C3NvCh 4K  11-1 3/8 (15½L Teaforthree 11-1) 11/2  Joe Tizzard  128 * *



3  732B-0  Chicago Grey 14   9  Gordon Elliott 55   145  127 149
grey gelding Luso (GB) — Carrigeen Acer (Lord Americo (GB))

John Earls

20Oct12    Chl 25GS C2HcCh 31K  11-12 10/19 (38L Balthazar King 11-4) t 9/1  P Carberry  147 * *
14Apr12    Ain 36Gd C1HcChG3 547K  10-13 BD/40 (Neptune Collonges 11-6) t 20/1  P Carberry  150 * *
18Feb12    Gow 20Sft ChG2 21K  11-6 2/5 (16L Rubi Light 11-10) t 16/1  Davy Condon  150 * *
26Jan12    Gow 24Sft/Hy HG2 21K  11-3 3/5 (15L Zaidpour 11-10) t 25/1  Davy Condon  — * *
12Nov11    Chl 28GS C1HcChG3 22K  11-11 7/11 (51L Galaxy Rock 10-10) t 4/1  P Carberry  150 * *
29Oct11    Wet 25Gd C1ChG2 56K  11-3 3/7 (31L Weird Al 11-6) t 7/1  Tom Scudamore  151 * *




4  P223-4  First Lieutenant 28   7  M F Morris 50   154  140 164
chestnut gelding Presenting (GB) — Fourstargale (Fourstars Allstar (USA))

Gigginstown House Stud

06Oct12    Gow 20Gd ChG2 21K  11-8 4/6 (12L Sizing Europe 11-10) 7/4  Davy Russell  157 * *
27Apr12    Pun 16Hy NvChG1 51K  11-10 3/7 (8L Lucky William 11-10) 9/4F  Davy Russell  153 * *
14Mar12    Chl 25Gd C1ChG1 74K  11-4 2/9 (2½L Bobs Worth 11-4) 9/2  Davy Russell  142 * *
28Dec11    Leo 24Gd NvChG1 42K  11-10 2/8 (6L Last Instalment 11-10) 7/4F  Davy Russell  141 * *
04Dec11    Fai 20Sft/Hy NvChG1 42K  11-10 PU/6 (Bog Warrior 11-10) 5/4F  Davy Russell  — * *
06Nov11    Cor 20Sft NvChG3 19K  11-6 1/5 (¾L Stephanie Kate 10-6) 4/6F  Davy Russell  — * *




5  412-P4  Follow The Plan 16   9  Oliver McKiernan   158  148 168
bay gelding Accordion (GB) — Royal Rosy (Dominion Royale (GB))

Redgap Partnership

18Oct12    Pun 23Hy ChG3 16K  11-10 4/5 (26L Roi Du Mee 11-8) p 11/2  Tom Doyle  160 * *
01Aug12    Gal 22Sft HcCh 100K  11-10 PU/20 (Bob Lingo 10-3) p 20/1  Tom Doyle  160 * *
28Apr12    Pun 25Hy ChG1 70K  11-10 2/8 (5L China Rock 11-10) p 7/1  Tom Doyle  158 * *
12Apr12    Ain 25GS C1ChG1 84K  11-7 1/11 (3L Burton Port 11-7) p 50/1  Tom Doyle  152 * *
10Mar12    Gow 18Sft HcCh 20K  11-12 4/10 (27L The Sneezer 9-8) 8/1  Tom Doyle  150 * *
12Feb12    Leo 24GS ChG1 76K  11-10 4/7 (8L Quel Esprit 11-10) 12/1  Tom Doyle  152 * *




6  127-3  Joncol 16   9  Paul Nolan 50   153  153 162
bay gelding Bob´s Return — Finemar Lady (Montelimar (USA))

Mrs K Browne

18Oct12    Pun 23Hy ChG3 16K  11-0 3/5 (6L Roi Du Mee 11-8) EvensF  Robbie Power  — * *
28Dec11    Leo 24Gd ChG1 80K  11-10 7/9 (49L Synchronised 11-10) 11/2  Barry Geraghty  161 * *
11Dec11    Pun 20Hy ChG1 44K  11-10 2/7 (5L Rubi Light 11-10) 5/2J  P Carberry  161 * *
03Nov11    Thu 22Sft/Hy ChL 15K  11-10 1/4 (12L Cooldine 11-0) 7/4  Barry Geraghty  155 * *
12Feb11    Leo 24Hy ChG1 89K  11-10 3/9 (9L Kempes 11-10) 13/8F  Alain Cawley  157 * *
28Dec10    Leo 24Hy ChG1 82K  11-10 3/12 (6¾L Pandorama 11-10) 5/1  Alain Cawley  160 * *




7  127F7-  Kauto Stone 204   6  Paul Nicholls54   —  129 166
chestnut gelding With The Flow (USA) — Kauto Relka (FR) (Port Etienne (FR))

R J H Geffen

13Apr12    Ain 20Gd C1ChG1 98K  11-10 7/8 (41L Finian's Rainbow 11-10) 12/1  P Carberry  162 * *
14Mar12    Chl 16Gd C1ChG1 182K  11-10 F/8 (Finian's Rainbow 11-10) 14/1  R Walsh  162 * *
18Feb12    Asc 22GS C1ChG1 84K  11-7 7/8 (71L Riverside Theatre 11-7) 11/4  R Walsh  162 * *
03Dec11    San 16GS C1ChG1 68K  11-7 2/7 (8L Sizing Europe 11-7) 7/2  R Walsh  162 * *
05Nov11    Dro 20Sft ChG2 28K  11-11 1/5 (6½L Roi Du Mee 11-10) 9/4  P Carberry  — * *
06Apr11    Aut 18VSft H 21K  10-8 3/9 (4½L Line Salsa 10-1) p EvensF  Christophe Pieux  — * *



8  6PP-52 Magnanimity 16   8  D T Hughes50   140  123 152
bay or brown gelding Winged Love — Mossy Mistress (Le Moss (GB))

Gigginstown House Stud

18Oct12    Pun 23Hy ChG3 16K  11-8 2/5 (5L Roi Du Mee 11-8) t 3/1  Davy Russell  140 * *
08May12    Pun 25Sft HcCh 24K  11-8 5/14 (8¼L Caduceus 10-2) b 16/1  Robbie Power  140 * *
28Apr12    Pun 25Hy ChG1 70K  11-10 PU/8 (China Rock 11-10) b 16/1  Davy Russell  142 * *
09Apr12    Fai 29GS HcCh 117K  11-2 PU/29 (Lion Na Bearnai 10-5) b 33/1  Robbie Power  143 * *
13Mar12    Chl 25Gd C1HcChG3 42K  11-1 6/19 (19½L Alfie Sherrin 10-0) v 14/1  Davy Russell  144 * *
25Feb12    Fai 25Sft ChG2 21K  11-8 4/8 (10½L Prince De Beauchene 11-3) tb 6/1  Davy Russell  147 * *




9  1/113-  Quito De La Roque 311   8  C A Murphy 67   160  57 167
bay gelding Saint Des Saints (FR) — Moody Cloud (FR) (Cyborg (FR))

Gigginstown House Stud

28Dec11    Leo 24Gd ChG1 80K  11-10 3/9 (11L Synchronised 11-10) 13/8F  Davy Russell  169 * *
05Nov11    Dro 24Sft ChG1 72K  11-10 1/7 (1¼L Sizing Europe 11-10) 11/4F  Davy Russell  159 * *
03May11    Pun 25Gd/Y NvChG1 42K  11-10 1/8 (14L Western Charmer 11-10) 7/2  Davy Russell  150 * *
08Apr11    Ain 25Gd C1NvChG2 42K  11-4 1/8 (nk Sarando 11-4) 6/1  Davy Russell  152 * *
13Feb11    Nav 24Hy NvChG2 21K  11-8 1/5 (4L Royal De La Thinte 11-3) EvensF  Davy Russell  — * *
15Jan11    Naa 24Sft/Hy NvChG2 22K  11-5 1/5 (14L Western Charmer 11-5) 11/10F  Davy Russell  — * *



10  1252-0  Realt Dubh 174   8  Noel Meade 67   160  123 169
bay gelding Beneficial (GB) — Suez Canal (FR) (Exit To Nowhere (USA))

D J Sharkey

13May12    Kln 17Gd HcH 27K  11-5 18/18 (26L Satu 9-9) 4/1F  P Carberry  135 * *
24Apr12    Pun 16Sft/Hy ChG1 72K  11-12 2/6 (2¼L Sizing Europe 11-12) 6/1  P Carberry  157 * *
14Mar12    Chl 16Gd C1ChG1 182K  11-10 5/8 (30L Finian's Rainbow 11-10) 14/1  P Carberry  157 * *
05May11    Pun 16Gd NvChG1 48K  11-12 2/5 (1¼L Captain Chris 11-12) 3/1  P Carberry  154 * *
24Apr11    Fai 20Gd ChG1 50K  11-10 1/7 (11L Loosen My Load 11-10) 9/2  P Carberry  151 * *
15Mar11    Chl 16Gd C1ChG1 74K  11-7 3/10 (8¾L Captain Chris 11-7) 17/2  P Carberry  147 * *




11  358-51  Roi Du Mee 16  7  Gordon Elliott 55   148  109 157
bay gelding Lavirco (GER) — British Nellerie (FR) (Le Pontet (FR))

Gigginstown House Stud

18Oct12    Pun 23Hy ChG3 16K  11-8 1/5 (5L Magnanimity 11-8) 6/1  P Carberry  145 * *
06Oct12    Gow 20Gd ChG2 21K  11-8 5/6 (35L Sizing Europe 11-10) 11/1  P Carberry  147 * *
09Apr12    Fai 29GS HcCh 117K  11-4 8/29 (75L Lion Na Bearnai 10-5) 50/1  A P Heskin  148 * *
11Mar12    Naa 24Sft HcCh 16K  11-5 5/12 (12L Paddy Pub 9-7) 5/1  Davy Russell  149 * *
25Feb12    Fai 25Sft ChG2 21K  11-8 3/8 (6¼L Prince De Beauchene 11-3) 12/1  Davy Condon  149 * *
01Jan12    Trm 21Hy ChL 16K  11-12 5/6 (20L Apt Approach 11-2) 9/4F  Ms N Carberry  151 * *



12  1121-1  Sizing Europe 28  10  Henry De Bromhead 57   171  157 174
Pistolet Bleu (IRE)  (11.2f) — Jennie Dun (IRE) (Mandalus  (12.3f))

Owner Ann & Alan Potts Partnership


06Oct12    Gow 20Gd ChG2 21K  11-10  1/6 (7½L Forpadydeplasterer 11-3) 11/10F  A E Lynch  171 *  * 
24Apr12    Pun 16Sft/Hy ChG1 72K  11-12  1/6 (2¼L Realt Dubh 11-12) 8/13F  A E Lynch  172 *  * 
14Mar12    Chl 16Gd C1ChG1 182K  11-10  2/8 (1¼L Finian's Rainbow 11-10) 4/5F  A E Lynch  177 *  * 
05Feb12    Pun 16Hy ChG2 21K  11-12  1/3 (15L Big Zeb 11-12) 9/10F  A E Lynch  173 *  * 
03Dec11    San 16GS C1ChG1 68K  11-7  1/7 (8L Kauto Stone 11-7) 11/8F  A E Lynch  177 *  * 
05Nov11    Dro 24Sft ChG1 72K  11-10  2/7 (1¼L Quito De La Roque 11-10) 7/2 
Report strontium October 29, 2012 3:57 PM GMT
Sint, you could weel be right about FL, but the fact he's entered at Wetherby has to be at least noted if considering an AP bet.
Report roobuck October 29, 2012 4:04 PM GMT
Actually think if its good ground he'll come over, especially if its soft in Ireland.
Report sintonian October 29, 2012 4:43 PM GMT
Absolutley Stront. One race is a G1 the other is a Grade 2 yet there is not much in it in terms of competitors. Just the prize money.
Report shockster October 29, 2012 5:04 PM GMT
This is a really poor G1 and the Charlie Hall looks more difficult.  Don't think FL would win either as he only seems to act around Cheltenham.  Can anyone remember a G1 chase with less 3m quality.  If the ground is good SE will probably win and show this lot up. He's the only class in the race.
Report strontium October 29, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
I agree Shock - Sizing only got beaten last season because the ground was awful and the before that only lost 4 l to Kauto Star (admittedly out of form). Even though he deosn't really get 3 miles he ought to be good enough to take care of this lot.

I disagree slightly about FL. If he's going to win the Gold Cup he has to go close in this because 14-20 lbs below Gold Cup form ought to be enough here.
Report shockster October 29, 2012 8:49 PM GMT
FL's form apart from Cheltenham where it is top notch, really is average and is about 14-20lbs below Chelt form.  Rating to me away from Chelt is about 140 and therefore no way would I look to back him.  This field on Good at chelt I'd make him a strong favourite. 

Just the way I see it.
Report Howdi October 29, 2012 10:12 PM GMT
and me ^^^
Report strontium October 29, 2012 10:22 PM GMT
Shock, that's fair enough, but what you're saying is he'd have to run 30-40 lbs better to win the Gold cup than you think he can at tracks other than Cheltenham. I don't think that's likely.

His rating away from Chelts may have been 140ish to date, but he has to have improved 15lb+ on any form to be a Gold Cup contender this season anyway. I.e. even if you're right, he'd now have to run to ~155 (imo) at tracks like Down Royal to be in position to improve enough for Chelteham to contend for the Gold cup.
Report shockster October 30, 2012 8:35 AM GMT
TBH Stront I don't think he will win a gold cup and yes to win this race will probably take 155.  I think SE on good can run to that and if it is heavy I wouldn't run him.  If it's soft/heavy I might chance Joncol if I have a bet.  Interesting Nicholls left in Kauto Stone! Shows what he thinks of the race IMO.
Report sintonian October 30, 2012 9:11 AM GMT
Kauto Stone was very impressive on his debut in Ireland last season to be fair, and he then finished a decent 2nd to SE in the Tingle Creek when 2m is too short for him.
Report strontium October 30, 2012 12:45 PM GMT
Shock, I don't think he'll win a Gold Cup either - I was speaking hypotheitcally on the basis that many people do think he is a contender (imo his owners have at least 2 better GC candidates). However, how he runs could be an indication of the strength of last year's novices against their elders (he was clear 2nd in the RSA after all).
Report revedesivola October 30, 2012 1:15 PM GMT
with ruby riding at wevverby, itll be interesting to see whether daryl goes to ascot or down royal
Report strontium October 30, 2012 1:27 PM GMT
Trainer says Wetherby is first preference for First Luiet anyway.
Report shockster October 30, 2012 1:30 PM GMT
Glad FL is at Wetherby as I'll be there and he'll boost the prices of others.
Report shockster October 30, 2012 4:24 PM GMT
Racing fans were hoping to see Sizing Europe feature in the JNwine.com Champion Chase this weekend, although they might have to wait a little longer to see the ten-year-old in action.

The 2011 Champion Chase winner claimed a facile victory at Gowran Park in early October and is vying for favouritism ahead of Saturday’s race although trainer Henry de Bromhead insists that soft ground will see the horse withdrawn from the race.

He said: "We've said we wouldn't run him unless the ground was pretty good. I've been talking to Mike Todd, the manager there (Down Royal), and he says it's good to soft.

"Unfortunately there's rain forecast on Wednesday so he wants to wait until then before he says any more.

"You'd have to feel the ground played a part in his defeat last year. It was soft to heavy.

"I don't want him to go through something like that again - we'd love to see him over three miles on good ground.

"In November we might look at the Fortria Chase or the Clonmel Oil Chase and for his Christmas run the three options we are looking at are obviously the King George (at Kempton), the two-mile chase in Leopardstown and the Lexus there.

"We would discount anything," De Bromhead told At The Races.

Sizing Europe is bidding for his first win in this race after losing to Kauto Star in 2010 and Quito De La Roque twelve months later, with the latter race taking place on tacky ground.
Report shockster October 30, 2012 4:25 PM GMT
Looks unlikely that SE will go for the Tingle Creek either.
Report shockster October 30, 2012 4:26 PM GMT
With this news I have backed Joncol 12/1 Ladbrokes E.Way.
Report Anaglogs Daughter October 30, 2012 4:29 PM GMT
Testing going at Down Royal may see Sizing Europe swerve the JNwine.com Champion Chase

http://www.rte.ie Updated: Tuesday, 30 Oct 2012 14:49


Sizing Europe is among 12 horses still standing for the Down Royal feature
Henry de Bromhead will keep an eye on the weather at Down Royal before committing Sizing Europe to a run in Saturday's JNwine.com Champion Chase.

The trainer's 2011 Queen Mother Champion Chase hero has finished second in the three-mile feature for the last two years.

Behind Kauto Star in 2010, his defeat by Quito De La Roque 12 months ago was put down to the testing ground.

De Bromhead is reluctant to run Sizing Europe in such conditions again.

He said: "We've said we wouldn't run him unless the ground was pretty good. I've been talking to Mike Todd, the manager there (Down Royal), and he says it's good to soft.

"Unfortunately there's rain forecast on Wednesday so he wants to wait until then before he says any more.

"You'd have to feel the ground played a part in his defeat last year. It was soft to heavy.

"I don't want him to go through something like that again - we'd love to see him over three miles on good ground."

The Co Waterford trainer continued: "In November we might look at the Fortria Chase or the Clonmel Oil Chase and for his Christmas run the three options we are looking at are obviously the King George (at Kempton), the two-mile chase in Leopardstown and the Lexus there."
Report roobuck October 30, 2012 5:08 PM GMT
Fair enough play shockster
Report bluebirdfan October 31, 2012 9:26 AM GMT
Can see FL staying in Ireland if this rain holds up
Report Anaglogs Daughter October 31, 2012 10:40 AM GMT
We are getting the tail end of Hurricane Sandy here in the north of the country worse to come this evening and tomorrow in Northern Ireland.

De Bromhead plans long trip for Europe irishindependent.ie

Although any appreciable rain in the north could rule Sizing Europe out of Saturday's JNwine.com Champion Chase at Down Royal, Henry de Bromhead appears committed to trying his exceptional two-miler over staying distances once again.

Second to Kauto Star (2010) and Quito De La Roque (2011) in the past two renewals of the three-mile Grade One, the 2011 Queen Mother Champion Chase hero got his campaign under way with a fine triumph at Gowran Park over two and a half miles.

He has never won over further and, despite looking assured in victory in the season's first Grade One at Down Royal in 2011, he laboured badly after leading at the final fence.

In soft ground, Quito De La Roque, having looked spent for much of the way, wore him down on the run to the line.

Allied to Sizing Europe's outstanding efforts during the remainder of the season, which included a stunning Tingle Creek Chase coup and saw his sole defeat come when controversially denied by Finian's Rainbow in Cheltenham's two-mile showpiece after confusion reigned as they bypassed the final fence, the suspicion was that he might now stick to that at which he excels.

However, de Bromhead always refused to rule out having another stab at the longer trip.

Possibly mindful that his stable star is rising 11 years of age and buoyed by the fact that he has only been bettered by one horse each of the past two years in the north, the Waterford handler is considering a Saturday rematch with last year's Colm Murphy-trained winner if ground conditions, currently good to soft, are suitable.

ground

"We've said we wouldn't run him unless the ground was pretty good," he said of Sizing Europe, which heads the weekend market at 5/2, half a point shorter than Quito De La Roque.

"You'd have to feel the ground played a part in his defeat last year -- it was soft to heavy. We'd love to see him over three miles on good ground."

Looking ahead, De Bromhead mapped out a diverse range of possibilities for his six-time Grade One-winner.

"In November we might look at the (two-mile) Fortria Chase or the (two-and-a-half-mile) Clonmel Oil Chase, and for his Christmas run the three options we are looking at are obviously the (three-mile) King George, the two-mile Chase at Leopardstown and the (three-mile) Lexus Chase there."

Along with Quito De La Roque, Roi Du Mee and Magnanimity, First Lieutenant is one of four Gigginstown Stud entries in Down Royal's highlight, but Mouse Morris is considering running him in the Charlie Hall Chase at Wetherby the same day.

"I'd say if you were to ask me now where I think he'll be running, it will be Wetherby," Morris revealed of the eight-year-old, which never posed a threat when fourth to Sizing Europe at Gowran.

"Decent ground will be a factor, although it's not bad at Down Royal. His first run will have brought him on a good deal."

In the Paddy Power Cork Grand National at Cork the following day, last year's TJ Nagle-trained winner The Bishop Looney is one of 21 potential starters, while Dessie Hughes has stated that the classy Minsk, second in graded company on its only jumps start at Fairyhouse last spring, should be ready to run over hurdles in a few weeks.

Meanwhile, Ken Whelan, one of the weigh room's most colourful characters and longest serving stalwarts at 41 years of age, has announced his retirement on medical advice, after fracturing vertebrae in his back for a third time.

Successful in the Kim Muir Chase at Cheltenham on Ferdy Murphy's Stop the Waller in 1996, Whelan finished fifth in the 1998 Aintree Grand National on Edward O'Grady's Gimme Five.

- Richard Forristal
Report sintonian October 31, 2012 2:51 PM GMT
Noel Fehily was due to ride Kauto Stone in Ireland last season but his flight got cancelled last minute due to fog so Paul Carberry took over.
Report Anaglogs Daughter November 2, 2012 11:02 AM GMT
2.25 DOWN ROYAL

JNwine.com Champion Chase (Grade 1) (5yo+) Winner €84,000 CH4
Good To Soft 3m Number of runners: 9



140000.00 For 5yo+ Weights 5yo 11st 8lb; 6yo+ 11st 10lb Allowances mares 7lb Confirmed 12 Penalty value 1st €84,000.00 2nd €26,600.00 3rd €12,600.00 4th €4,200.00 5th €2,100.00 6th €700.00


1. 05113 BOB LINGO t 42  10 11-10 151 Mark Walsh Thomas Mullins 50 147 153
33/1
bay gelding Bob´s Return — Pharlingo (Phardante (FR))

John P McManus

22Sep12    Lis 20Hy HcH 13K  11-2 3/7 (13½L Drive Time 11-10) t 3/1  Mark Walsh  129 * *
31Aug12    Kln 22Sft HcH 12K  10-6 1/15 (¾L King Ali 10-5) t 4/1F  Mark Walsh  119 * *
01Aug12    Gal 22Sft HcCh 100K  10-3 1/20 (5L Casey Top 9-11) t 16/1  Mark Walsh  139 * *
18Jul12    Kln 14Y 4K  10-5 2/10 (12L Chamonix 9-5) t 9/1  Fran Berry  — * *
24Jun12    Gow 16Sft HcH 8K  11-0 5/15 (11L Golanbrook 11-2) t 14/1  Mark Walsh  120 * *
13May12    Kln 17Gd HcH 27K  10-5 17/18 (24L Satu 9-9) t 12/1  Alan Crowe  121 * *




2. 732B-0  CHICAGO GREY tp 14  9 11-10 145 Davy Condon Gordon Elliott 53 131 153
50/1
grey gelding Luso (GB) — Carrigeen Acer (Lord Americo (GB))

John Earls

20Oct12    Chl 25GS C2HcCh 31K  11-12 10/19 (38L Balthazar King 11-4) t 9/1  P Carberry  147 * *
14Apr12    Ain 36Gd C1HcChG3 547K  10-13 BD/40 (Neptune Collonges 11-6) t 20/1  P Carberry  150 * *
18Feb12    Gow 20Sft ChG2 21K  11-6 2/5 (16L Rubi Light 11-10) t 16/1  Davy Condon  150 * *
26Jan12    Gow 24Sft/Hy HG2 21K  11-3 3/5 (15L Zaidpour 11-10) t 25/1  Davy Condon  — * *
12Nov11    Chl 28GS C1HcChG3 22K  11-11 7/11 (51L Galaxy Rock 10-10) t 4/1  P Carberry  150 * *
29Oct11    Wet 25Gd C1ChG2 56K  11-3 3/7 (31L Weird Al 11-6) t 7/1  Tom Scudamore  151 * *




3. P223-4 FIRST LIEUTENANT p 28  7 11-10 154 Bryan Cooper M F Morris 25 144 168
8/1
chestnut gelding Presenting (GB) — Fourstargale (Fourstars Allstar (USA))

Gigginstown House Stud

06Oct12    Gow 20Gd ChG2 21K  11-8 4/6 (12L Sizing Europe 11-10) 7/4  Davy Russell  157 * *
27Apr12    Pun 16Hy NvChG1 51K  11-10 3/7 (8L Lucky William 11-10) 9/4F  Davy Russell  153 * *
14Mar12    Chl 25Gd C1ChG1 74K  11-4 2/9 (2½L Bobs Worth 11-4) 9/2  Davy Russell  142 * *
28Dec11    Leo 24Gd NvChG1 42K  11-10 2/8 (6L Last Instalment 11-10) 7/4F  Davy Russell  141 * *
04Dec11    Fai 20Sft/Hy NvChG1 42K  11-10 PU/6 (Bog Warrior 11-10) 5/4F  Davy Russell  — * *
06Nov11    Cor 20Sft NvChG3 19K  11-6 1/5 (¾L Stephanie Kate 10-6) 4/6F  Davy Russell  — * *



4. 412-P4 FOLLOW THE PLAN p 16  9 11-10 158 Tom Doyle Oliver McKiernan 152 172
20/1
bay gelding Accordion (GB) — Royal Rosy (Dominion Royale (GB))

Redgap Partnership

18Oct12    Pun 23Hy ChG3 16K  11-10 4/5 (26L Roi Du Mee 11-8) p 11/2  Tom Doyle  160 * *
01Aug12    Gal 22Sft HcCh 100K  11-10 PU/20 (Bob Lingo 10-3) p 20/1  Tom Doyle  160 * *
28Apr12    Pun 25Hy ChG1 70K  11-10 2/8 (5L China Rock 11-10) p 7/1  Tom Doyle  158 * *
12Apr12    Ain 25GS C1ChG1 84K  11-7 1/11 (3L Burton Port 11-7) p 50/1  Tom Doyle  152 * *
10Mar12    Gow 18Sft HcCh 20K  11-12 4/10 (27L The Sneezer 9-8) 8/1  Tom Doyle  150 * *
12Feb12    Leo 24GS ChG1 76K  11-10 4/7 (8L Quel Esprit 11-10) 12/1  Tom Doyle  152 * *




5. 127-3 JONCOL p 16  9 11-10 153 Robbie Power Paul Nolan 43 157 166
12/1
bay gelding Bob´s Return — Finemar Lady (Montelimar (USA))

Mrs K Browne

18Oct12    Pun 23Hy ChG3 16K  11-0 3/5 (6L Roi Du Mee 11-8) EvensF  Robbie Power  — * *
28Dec11    Leo 24Gd ChG1 80K  11-10 7/9 (49L Synchronised 11-10) 11/2  Barry Geraghty  161 * *
11Dec11    Pun 20Hy ChG1 44K  11-10 2/7 (5L Rubi Light 11-10) 5/2J  P Carberry  161 * *
03Nov11    Thu 22Sft/Hy ChL 15K  11-10 1/4 (12L Cooldine 11-0) 7/4  Barry Geraghty  155 * *
12Feb11    Leo 24Hy ChG1 89K  11-10 3/9 (9L Kempes 11-10) 13/8F  Alain Cawley  157 * *
28Dec10    Leo 24Hy ChG1 82K  11-10 3/12 (6¾L Pandorama 11-10) 5/1  Alain Cawley  160 * *




6. 127F7- KAUTO STONE 204  6 11-10 158 Daryl Jacob Paul Nicholls 50 133 170
6/1
chestnut gelding With The Flow (USA) — Kauto Relka (FR) (Port Etienne (FR))

R J H Geffen

13Apr12    Ain 20Gd C1ChG1 98K  11-10 7/8 (41L Finian's Rainbow 11-10) 12/1  P Carberry  162 * *
14Mar12    Chl 16Gd C1ChG1 182K  11-10 F/8 (Finian's Rainbow 11-10) 14/1  R Walsh  162 * *
18Feb12    Asc 22GS C1ChG1 84K  11-7 7/8 (71L Riverside Theatre 11-7) 11/4  R Walsh  162 * *
03Dec11    San 16GS C1ChG1 68K  11-7 2/7 (8L Sizing Europe 11-7) 7/2  R Walsh  162 * *
05Nov11    Dro 20Sft ChG2 28K  11-11 1/5 (6½L Roi Du Mee 11-10) 9/4  P Carberry  — * *
06Apr11    Aut 18VSft H 21K  10-8 3/9 (4½L Line Salsa 10-1) p EvensF  Christophe Pieux  — * *




7. 1/113- QUITO DE LA ROQUE 311  8 11-10 160 Davy Russell C A Murphy 60 61 171
4/1
bay gelding Saint Des Saints (FR) — Moody Cloud (FR) (Cyborg (FR))

Gigginstown House Stud

28Dec11    Leo 24Gd ChG1 80K  11-10 3/9 (11L Synchronised 11-10) 13/8F  Davy Russell  169 * *
05Nov11    Dro 24Sft ChG1 72K  11-10 1/7 (1¼L Sizing Europe 11-10) 11/4F  Davy Russell  159 * *
03May11    Pun 25Gd/Y NvChG1 42K  11-10 1/8 (14L Western Charmer 11-10) 7/2  Davy Russell  150 * *
08Apr11    Ain 25Gd C1NvChG2 42K  11-4 1/8 (nk Sarando 11-4) 6/1  Davy Russell  152 * *
13Feb11    Nav 24Hy NvChG2 21K  11-8 1/5 (4L Royal De La Thinte 11-3) EvensF  Davy Russell  — * *
15Jan11    Naa 24Sft/Hy NvChG2 22K  11-5 1/5 (14L Western Charmer 11-5) 11/10F  Davy Russell  — * *




8. 1252-0 REALT DUBH 174  8 11-10 160 P Carberry Noel Meade 64 127 173
15/2
bay gelding Beneficial (GB) — Suez Canal (FR) (Exit To Nowhere (USA))

D J Sharkey

13May12    Kln 17Gd HcH 27K  11-5 18/18 (26L Satu 9-9) 4/1F  P Carberry  135 * *
24Apr12    Pun 16Sft/Hy ChG1 72K  11-12 2/6 (2¼L Sizing Europe 11-12) 6/1  P Carberry  157 * *
14Mar12    Chl 16Gd C1ChG1 182K  11-10 5/8 (30L Finian's Rainbow 11-10) 14/1  P Carberry  157 * *
05May11    Pun 16Gd NvChG1 48K  11-12 2/5 (1¼L Captain Chris 11-12) 3/1  P Carberry  154 * *
24Apr11    Fai 20Gd ChG1 50K  11-10 1/7 (11L Loosen My Load 11-10) 9/2  P Carberry  151 * *
15Mar11    Chl 16Gd C1ChG1 74K  11-7 3/10 (8¾L Captain Chris 11-7) 17/2  P Carberry  147 * *



9. 1121-1 SIZING EUROPE 28  10 11-10 171 A E Lynch Henry De Bromhead 73 161 178
2/1
Ann & Alan Potts Partnership

06Oct12    Gow 20Gd ChG2 21K  11-10  1/6 (7½L Forpadydeplasterer 11-3) 11/10F  A E Lynch  171 *  * 
24Apr12    Pun 16Sft/Hy ChG1 72K  11-12  1/6 (2¼L Realt Dubh 11-12) 8/13F  A E Lynch  172 *  * 
14Mar12    Chl 16Gd C1ChG1 182K  11-10  2/8 (1¼L Finian's Rainbow 11-10) 4/5F  A E Lynch  177 *  * 
05Feb12    Pun 16Hy ChG2 21K  11-12  1/3 (15L Big Zeb 11-12) 9/10F  A E Lynch  173 *  * 
03Dec11    San 16GS C1ChG1 68K  11-7  1/7 (8L Kauto Stone 11-7) 11/8F  A E Lynch  177 *  * 
05Nov11    Dro 24Sft ChG1 72K  11-10  2/7 (1¼L Quito De La Roque 11-10) 7/2
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