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Monte Christo
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Has anyone any idea when the books are out this year ?

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Report sisyphus January 24, 2013 7:17 PM GMT
If it goes ahead it will be without Tidal Bay!
Report REM January 25, 2013 9:35 AM GMT
Let me dream.

Happy
Report sisyphus January 25, 2013 12:33 PM GMT
The dreams still alive
Report REM January 25, 2013 1:20 PM GMT
Actually, there's a list above me with those three running. Needed Grandouet to chip in as well.

Larkhill cancelled too. Just going to have to stay in and watch the ball hit the crossbar. Damn snow, it was fun for a few days but now it's just a mess.

Sad
Report TEN2FOLLOWER January 27, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
I'm up to 1823rd with 395pts.

Can't see me getting into the money unless I win 7 races at The Festival on one line.

I think I'll only do a few entries on the flat.  The prize will be rubbish anyway and I don't like how they are running it.
Report JOCI Club January 27, 2013 3:37 PM GMT
899th on 411.7.

110th in the Winter mini-league.
Report duffy January 27, 2013 3:44 PM GMT
568th 420.4
Report sisyphus January 27, 2013 4:34 PM GMT
176th, 214th, 256th, 491st and 583rd
Report NickB January 27, 2013 4:43 PM GMT
Went in to the weekend with high(ish) hopes with SS, OW, GC and HF in my line, and only ended up improving 15 places!! Laugh
Report JOCI Club January 27, 2013 5:10 PM GMT
They need to try Grands Crus over much shorter I think.

Doesn't seem the most resolute horse anymore, and being allowed to bowl along over a shorther trip might see him to his best advantage, and maybe on better ground (if we ever get it).
Report REM January 27, 2013 5:34 PM GMT
Well a surprising 23rd in the mini, despite two poor selections, but then again I only gave it 10 mins thought.

Absolute pants in the main comp, despite studying for days.

Might try to plot something if they have another mini comp for Chelts.
Report JOCI Club January 27, 2013 6:00 PM GMT
Wonder if they will have a joint Cheltenham / Aintree comp?
Report sisyphus January 27, 2013 6:25 PM GMT
They need to try Grands Crus over much shorter I think.


When Grands Crus won the Feltham the going stick was 7.7 (good) and he was at the limit of his stamina with both SC and Bobs closing, the chase course was running 20 lengths faster than the hurdle course that day. He was beaten 6 lengths by Bb's at Liverpool on g/s ground but less than 2 lengths on good ground at the Chelts both 3m hurdles.. All his best performances have come on decent ground,  his two runs this year have been on attrocious.

I think you hit the nail on the head Joci
Report NickB January 27, 2013 9:18 PM GMT
I said to a mate before the Argento, I was torn between wanting the points on the board for Grand Crus or seeing him as a blatant non-stayer and subsequently ending up in the Ryanair... Just have a horrible feeling the trainer/owner will carry on regardless and try to make him a Gold Cup horse

That said, he seemed to be staying on well at the end of the KG - don't know what to make of any of the horse's runs this season...??
Report trev w January 30, 2013 8:31 PM GMT
400 and summat pts....cursing avrica coming down at thecweekendAngry
Report REM February 2, 2013 5:07 PM GMT
Have Carruthers as a star horse, so a bit of loose change welcome today, although not my top list.

Still weighed down by SDC, Finian's and RoR. Three zeros in most lists. Cry

Hopefully a day out at a point tomorrow to cheer me up. Grin
Report ronsk February 3, 2013 3:01 PM GMT
My top list in 495th...

Hurricane Fly   
Bobs Worth*   
Al Ferof   
Long Run   
Sprinter Sacre   
Simonsig   
Flemenstar   
Overturn   
Big Buck's
Sir Des Champs

No Betfair Hurdle, World Hurdle or RSA Chase runners. Hoping for proper left-field winners of all 3 races. Not likely, unfortunately!Cry
Report JOCI Club February 3, 2013 4:47 PM GMT
Not many likely to have the World Hurdle winner now. Unless Oscar Whiskey runs / wins of course.
Report ronsk February 3, 2013 4:52 PM GMT
They'll be a few, there always are. Gutted because I very nearly went with Monksland in this list, but decided against it and put him in elsewhere. Mind you it's swings & roundabouts because I very nearly starred Sir Des Champs in this list and changed my mind at the last minute!
Report JOCI Club February 3, 2013 5:46 PM GMT
Also missing a contender for the Aintree Hurdle.
Report ronsk February 3, 2013 5:50 PM GMT
Yes. Highly unlikely that Hurricane Fly will run.
Report duffy February 3, 2013 8:29 PM GMT
410 with 431 points.....only hope I've got is if overturn wins the arkle, along with a few others of course but he's an absolute must.
Report corporal February 3, 2013 10:18 PM GMT
223 with 441.5. Only chance of catching up is if Tidal Bay does the business in bonus race(s), although looking less and less likely now that he's not going for the Hennessy
Report aft February 3, 2013 11:34 PM GMT
3,812th with 380pts
Still confident - Planning to come with a late run!!
Report REM February 4, 2013 4:26 PM GMT
RIP Darlan. Very sad.

13th most popular and full of promise.

Sad
Report duffy February 4, 2013 5:12 PM GMT
no long run on saturday.
Report Millerracing67 February 5, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
RIP Darlan Cry.
RIP my "10" to follow Cry
Now 8 to follow (Big Bucks)Cry
Terrible to see the horrible death of Darlan yest Cry
Looked the main danger to The Fly this year in the Champ Hdle.
Report suzyspitfire February 5, 2013 6:27 PM GMT
267th with 439 points, Flemenstar a must on saturday...
Report The RealDeal February 5, 2013 6:47 PM GMT
Good one Suzy, 302nd with 437 points, Sir Des Champs a must on Saturday!
Report ronsk February 5, 2013 7:44 PM GMT
Either will do me!
Report suzyspitfire February 5, 2013 8:57 PM GMT
Have Grandouet and Walkon in this list if only one of them won their bonus race...
Report sisyphus February 7, 2013 5:53 PM GMT
Torn between two lovers, Fleenstar or Sir Ses Champ, think I wil go with Quel Esprit.
Report sisyphus February 7, 2013 10:24 PM GMT
Simonsig out this weekend allowing fringe players to close in thus ultimately expanding the field. Get the feeling that groups holding Al Ferof might be hindered...
Report REM February 8, 2013 9:33 AM GMT
What's the general view on subs now?

It's a lucky list that still has ten to follow.
Report sisyphus February 8, 2013 10:33 AM GMT
Not one list has ten runners remaining. Five of the top ten have three missing, only one list in the top sixty left out Big bucks and that has Darlan in it.
Report duffy February 9, 2013 3:19 AM GMT
sisyphus
how can you look at those outside the top 30?
Report sisyphus February 9, 2013 9:15 AM GMT
with some imagination
Report sisyphus February 9, 2013 1:47 PM GMT
You starred Grands crus duffy, wont help you, most starred
Report JOCI Club February 9, 2013 2:40 PM GMT
Welcome 20 points from Silviniaco Conti in our best list.
Report Brooksielad February 9, 2013 3:15 PM GMT
my star horse :)
Report sisyphus February 9, 2013 3:32 PM GMT
Their tactics (flemenstar) beat themselves, what a bad ride
Report duffy February 9, 2013 3:48 PM GMT
sisyphus, it won't help me because he's shot to pieces, not because he's starredWink
Report sisyphus February 9, 2013 3:48 PM GMT
They're as wise now as they were before the race. They handed the race to Dessy
Report duffy February 9, 2013 3:51 PM GMT
doesn't stay, and this wasn't even the gold cup trip, no tactics will alter the result one jot.
Report sisyphus February 9, 2013 4:09 PM GMT
Quel Esprit stays, yet he was slaughtered, Flemenstar lost by less distance than what he reigned back
Report duffy February 9, 2013 4:12 PM GMT
plenty of 4 milers stay too, they would have been beat even further though!!!, it's in relation to what they are running against,flemenstar is superior enough to quel esprit for it not to matter... against top class gc horses he will always be found wanting against the best over 3 miles and beyond, it's absolutely clear cut.
Report REM February 9, 2013 4:47 PM GMT
SDC has given me a boost, although the TTF site hasn't inluded the bonus points yet. Have Flemenstar too (both bankers).

Silvianao Conti helps out and have him permed with Bob's Worth.

Finians my only main zero now, apart from a few long shot star horses.

Don't feel so disappointed now.
Report Clerkmore February 9, 2013 5:00 PM GMT
A total balls up this year. They can't even allocate the correct score to Sir Des Champs!
Report duffy February 9, 2013 5:01 PM GMT
the site has had indigestion for most of the afternoonGrin
Report sisyphus February 9, 2013 5:03 PM GMT
leader on 556.62
Report Brooksielad February 10, 2013 9:04 AM GMT
160 points this month, making a late push. HF, Conti, Boston Bob, My Tent Or Yours and Thousand Stars all scoring.
Report REM February 14, 2013 7:11 PM GMT
Tidal Bay scratched. Star horse in my 2nd best list. 47th most popular and was hoping for some big points to gain on leaders. Sad

Interesting weekend. Finian's Rainbow is my last zero. Hoping for a big run. Hoping the rain stays away too. Happy
Report TEN2FOLLOWER February 20, 2013 7:46 PM GMT
485.6pts in 977th here
Report Chad Collins number wan February 22, 2013 1:33 PM GMT
Pretty useless this year so far, but so much can change at Chelts and Aintree I'm not giving up hope yet!

Top line is on 449.8, and in 3768th, On his Own is my star horse in that line though, so will be hopeful right to teh last day...
Report Clerkmore February 22, 2013 3:21 PM GMT
124th with 523.4 points. However, I don't like the way they have run the competition this time and if they persist with this format in future I will probably not enter again.

I've been a regular since the inception of the competition and won £6 grand for sixth place some years ago. (On the flat when there was decent prize money)
Report Hanbury February 22, 2013 10:41 PM GMT
We are getting close to Cheltenham now, only just over a third of the way through the competition. Still plenty of points to be had.Its all about Cheltenham and those key aintree races!! I love it!!
Report REM February 28, 2013 2:41 PM GMT
I see there is a Cheltenham mini-TTF on the Tote website. £25k guarenteed for £5 entry. Scoring doesn't seem to be complete yet.
Report duffy February 28, 2013 3:13 PM GMT
at least they've re-jigged the horses involved including the horses that are relevant now to the big races.
Report REM March 2, 2013 7:31 PM GMT
Some early entries already.

I'll give it some consideration once I know decs and going (as in 30 mins before closing time).
Report aft March 2, 2013 11:42 PM GMT
I see that it is a completely different list of horses (from the main competition) to include most (if not all) potential Cheltenham runners.
Whilst this is much to the benefit of the new competition, I do think that they should have highlighted the fact as it represents a volte face from the previous Mini Comp and many may not realise this unheralded departure until coming to enter their selections (possibly after spending much time working upon the reasonable assumption that the Main list would continue apply).
Report aft March 2, 2013 11:46 PM GMT
*to apply
Report REM March 3, 2013 5:52 PM GMT
I think the new tote management are on a learning curve. At least I hope that they are learning. The Chelt mini comp rather underlines all the flaws in the main comp.
Report Clerkmore March 6, 2013 8:41 PM GMT
Had an e-mail about this from them. I coldly e-mailed back to say that I did not enter extra competitions in protest at the decision to drop the monthly prizes as per the original TTF!
Report Millerracing67 March 7, 2013 12:33 PM GMT
Nothing more than a greedy money making bid by the bald 1.
The 10 you enter at the start of the comp should be the ones that decide the top scorer at the Chelts Fest nxt wk, as it always has been, with a 10k prize to the winner.
Greedy baldy **** Shocked imo Laugh
Report TEN2FOLLOWER March 8, 2013 9:54 PM GMT
It'll be interesting to see where anyone is at this time next week.
Report REM March 12, 2013 8:54 AM GMT
The big day has arrived. I just love the festival.

Finians is my big problem and won't have a Ryannair runner unless he turns up.

Might throw a line or two in to the mini comp for some interest.

Good luck folks.

Happy
Report REM March 12, 2013 10:52 AM GMT
Must say the festival mini comp is uninspiring.
Report i say March 12, 2013 11:12 AM GMT
I am quite inspired REM - will probably change after the first couple of races when I realise the £25k is not coming my way though. Good luck
Report REM March 12, 2013 11:34 AM GMT
It's the points that baffle me. 4 x 50 point races, 1 x 20 and the rest seem to be  10 or 12. So must nail the 4 bonus races or toast and hope for a decent sp on a star horse. Plain
Report Clerkmore March 12, 2013 7:00 PM GMT
Up to 69th in the main competition after today.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER March 12, 2013 10:51 PM GMT
I'm up to just outside the top 500.  Rather pleased.Happy
Report aft March 14, 2013 5:39 PM GMT
Now 23rd and 30th in Cheltenham Mini  competition
(Have to hope that Long Run does not win GC!)
Report aft March 14, 2013 5:39 PM GMT
Now 23rd and 30th in Cheltenham Mini  competition
(Have to hope that Long Run does not win GC!)
Report REM March 15, 2013 8:18 AM GMT
Well done aft. I put a line in with the same horses except I had Bog Warrior and not Solwhit. Pleased for Solwhit as he was a fav of mine.

Good luck today.
Report REM March 15, 2013 8:20 AM GMT
... and in my cuniing plan I have Cottage Oak as a star horse in the Foxhunters. Just waiting for the rain that was forecast.
Report aft March 15, 2013 12:53 PM GMT
Oh  well - Thats my goose cooked!
(Ballycasey out))
Report TEN2FOLLOWER March 15, 2013 3:20 PM GMT
I'm up to just outside the top 200.  Got 3 of the first 4 favs in Gold Cup in leading entry.  But don't think I will be bridging the gap.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER March 15, 2013 3:20 PM GMT
I'm up to just outside the top 200.  Got 3 of the first 4 favs in Gold Cup in leading entry.  But don't think I will be bridging the gap.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER March 15, 2013 3:20 PM GMT
I'm up to just outside the top 200.  Got 3 of the first 4 favs in Gold Cup in leading entry.  But don't think I will be bridging the gap.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER March 15, 2013 3:22 PM GMT
Didn't mean to send that 3 times.  PC froze.
Report REM March 15, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
Looks like you're in the money aft?
Report REM March 15, 2013 3:33 PM GMT
BW awsome. Going to take a good horse to grind him down.

Had a little each way on Cottage Oak in the next. Then it's standing in the rain at a point this weekend. Happy
Report REM March 15, 2013 3:33 PM GMT
BW awsome. Going to take a good horse to grind him down.

Had a little each way on Cottage Oak in the next. Then it's standing in the rain at a point this weekend. Happy
Report TEN2FOLLOWER March 15, 2013 7:34 PM GMT
Up to 115th overall, but no National horse in list.

Got On his Own as my star pick in a list with 644pts.
Report Millerracing67 March 16, 2013 4:17 PM GMT
Only entered 2 lists in the comp (from the start) so with being down to 8 horses in both lists for a while (Big Bucks & Darlan Cry) Had a gd Chelts with both lists, now on 575 & 510. Not bad, all things considered.
Gd luck if any on here are close to the leaders.Cool
Report direct route March 16, 2013 6:30 PM GMT
In 5th place, but need the Waley-Cohen's to have a re-think and run Long run at aintree. Please, please run him! Also need this oscar whisky injury not to be too serious.
Report direct route March 16, 2013 6:32 PM GMT
Waley-Cohens that should read.
Report REM April 3, 2013 2:32 PM BST
Now for the thrilling climax at Aintree...

Anyone still with a squeek?

Sad
Report TEN2FOLLOWER April 3, 2013 9:40 PM BST
sadly not REM.
Got on his own in a few lists.  But not my top one, or maybe I'd be in with a shout.
Report REM April 4, 2013 7:05 PM BST
I've actually lost ground despite putting Zarkandar in half my lists expecting a win in the Aintree Hurdle.

Laugh
Report JOCI Club April 6, 2013 1:28 AM BST
274th overall so no chance.
Report REM April 6, 2013 11:06 AM BST
Good effort JOCI.

I actually had Triolo D'Alene as a star horse winning yesterday. Doesn't help much with the massive zero of Finians rainbow still hanging heavy.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER April 6, 2013 12:13 PM BST
I'm 119th overall, but no National runner.

On His Own is in lower lists.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER April 6, 2013 6:14 PM BST
116th in end.
Report i say April 6, 2013 6:37 PM BST
Well done - in the 2,000's for me. Can't wait to win the Flat competition though. Always Dreaming
Report RockMonkey April 6, 2013 10:36 PM BST
Massive chop in prize money for Flat-£50k for winner & formerly £10k for monthly now down to £2.5k
Report RockMonkey April 7, 2013 12:01 AM BST
Winner had Simonsig, Sir Des Champs & Champagne Fever to my Oscar Whiskey, Grands Crus & Flemenstar, just to re-emphasise the small margins it boils down to.
Report REM April 7, 2013 9:23 AM BST
Grand Crus probably sunk most lists. None of the top ten took any risks. They just had the right combination of horses. Well done to them.

It's not so much ten to follow as avoid the zero.

I think it's farewell from me after 18 years of trying. There's not much joy in this comp now. Ruined by bonus races, injuries and (lack of) monthly prizes.

Good luck people.
Report Clerkmore April 8, 2013 1:54 PM BST
I think I'm with you REM. I've been entering the TTF since the very first one. Was lucky to win £6.8k for sixth place in the flat in 2005 when the winner won £160k. They have destroyed the competition and it doesn't hold the same interest for me anymore.

Note the lack of a Flat TTF thread here which was unheard of in previous years. I just wish that some other organisation would run a TTF and do it properly.
Report Chad Collins number wan April 9, 2013 6:18 PM BST
Top line 3000 ish.  Rubbish year for me, made the shortlist far too big (50) with the half price lines.  Also tried far too hard to include stupid handicap "wildcards" - got a few big points off the odd one, but should have done what the winners did and stuck to tight combos of the obvious.  Big comedown after being the top 100 all the way through last year's comp, and a top 10 at Chelt the year before!

Will play the flat for a few interest lines, but nothing on the same scale, and not running my syndicate for it.
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