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10 Aug 12 23:41
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If your not backing EXCELEBRATION,make sure you are betting each way,because he will be winning this race!Wink

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By:
A_T
When: 11 Aug 12 10:35
It does look rather obvious. Much of the opposition to him seems to be based on an assumption that he had a hard race last time. He looks to have much the best form - only one horse not called Frankel has finished in front of him since his 2yo debut.
By:
Navel-Gazer
When: 11 Aug 12 14:12
He's a group one horse but he's not a top-rank performer in my view - I think all this talk about being a 'champion miler' without Frankel around is balls!
His (regular 4 length) proximity to Frankel hugely flatters him, and I believe he has to be at a peak (which is in question) to be in contention in this, never mind win it!

I never believed he was quite the class of Canford Cliffs or Goldikova, and this is his big chance to prove me wrong - he's an admirable colt, and has been banging his head against a brick wall for so long - he deserves a change of fortune but I believe he's very poor value and is even a frame lay, at something really short!

HRE - I'm not even winding you up at all...it's a very tough race, he has it all to prove, and as I said on another thread...I'll be happy to be wrong Wink
By:
sintonian
When: 11 Aug 12 16:16
An assumption AT ? Everytime he had raced Frankel before he was never ridden to take him on up front. He was always held up behind the great horse. At Ascot they tried going with him and the usual 4 lengths beating turned into 11.

I personally think he is a top class miler. But his last run would put me off backing him at anything less than 3/1 in the face of such strong opposition.
By:
A_T
When: 11 Aug 12 16:26
sintonian I think the jockey gave him an easy time once Frankel had flown

Excelebration is a top class horse IMO - won the Moulin comfortably last year

I would worry though if it's a crawl which would play into the hands of Moonlight. I'm very surprised there is no pacemaker.
By:
bazzar
When: 12 Aug 12 13:57
Beware of MOORE falling off.
By:
sintonian
When: 12 Aug 12 14:50
Well done HRE & AT.  His ability was not in question, just the hard race, perhaps percevied, he had last time out.

MI ran abysmally.
By:
Navel-Gazer
When: 12 Aug 12 15:34
I couldn't have got Excelebration more wrong Sad

W/D to the Excelebration fans...I have to admit my reservations about his well-being were way off.

It was quite a disappointing race really, as so many failed to show up.
Even though he wins from a top-class field, I still get the impression he's a shade below champions like Canford Cliffs & Goldikova - maybe I'm being unfair to him, but he's sure to have his chances again to shine in Frankel's absence, and shut me up!
By:
geoff m
When: 12 Aug 12 16:06
Excelebration is as good a horse if not bettar than Canford Cliffs or Goldikova but will never get the due credit.
By:
Mr Eboue
When: 12 Aug 12 18:41
How on earth is he better than Goldikova please?
By:
Mr Eboue
When: 12 Aug 12 18:41
or Canford cliffs?
By:
geoff m
When: 13 Aug 12 00:26
4 times hes finished within 5 lengths of Frankel which is the same distance Frankel put between him & Canford.
Within those 4 occassions he beat the likes of Dream Ahead & Immortal Verse both conquerors of Goldikova.
By:
A_T
When: 13 Aug 12 08:38
I would have Excelebration as a similar level of ability to Canford and Goldikova.
By:
cryoftruth
When: 13 Aug 12 08:46
Well if anyone doubted the form with Frankel before...

Seems that Frankel really is 11 lengths better than the Champion miler (without Frankel).

That is over a stone and a half better. Quite extraordinary.
By:
Adelaide
When: 13 Aug 12 12:14
It's an unfair comparison with Goldikova as people are using her form as a 6 year old, but of course with the others it's as a 3 or 4 in the prime of their lives.  Try using Goldikova's 3 year old BC win or 4 year old Jacques Le Marois demolition and then make the comparisons.
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